From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu! europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Tue Sep 13 10:35:37 EDT 1994 Article: 69995 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu! europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: general disgust...ing lot Message-ID: <34orul$j3c@search01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 9 Sep 1994 01:31:01 -0400 Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com References: <34ofkp$ii0@panix2.panix.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: search01.news.aol.com Lines: 66 Status: RO In article <34ofkp$ii0@panix2.panix.com>, pyz@panix.com (Max Pyziur) writes about something I have no interest in, but on the other hand : roman voronka (rovoro@m.njit.edu) wrote: : >: Mr. Sorokin's position in Kentucky, my dear gentlemen, be aware : >: that I will provide copies of your postings to my numerous friends : >: who will bombard your employers with letters of indignation. : > : >Count me in Ed. : > : > : >: Ed Ponarin, : >: edp@umich.edu : >: THESE OPINIONS MAY NOT COINCIDE WITH THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER : > : > : >Max : >pyz@panix.com : >wasley_pw@simon.wustl.edu Empty and unfounded threats, I challenge you to follow through. I think that the whole lot of you are clowns. A veritable circus. Frankly I was always amused by clowns. Keep posting, I promise to read. RV .................................................................... Mr. Voronka, You got the r - i -g - h - t attitude. All this sovokin support talk is just that. The soviets are too weak, lazy and stupid to anything in the real world. Incompetent. Small penises. They're history. Old, bad history at that. How many of them will send letters of support for sovokin? How many have done so? :) They'd have to get off their sovok ass to do that, wouldn't they? :) The shits! They jerk-off too much on their keyboards. The horde is finished. It's all they can do just to fart and type. {' _'} All they can do is post here what they think they m-i-g-h-t do to help save his useless, stupid, soviet, anti-American ass. Not what they have done. :) We will post the end score. No charge this time. Then ONE BY ONE. Guess who's next? :))) From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu! howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Tue Sep 13 10:42:55 EDT 1994 Article: 70029 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu! howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Unholy Allies, was:Re: Voronka and Alexplore Message-ID: <34q13d$qer@search01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 9 Sep 1994 12:05:01 -0400 Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com References: <94252.102124BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: search01.news.aol.com Lines: 41 Status: RO In article <94252.102124BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu>, Boris A. Veytsman writes like a man slowly going to his end point and final destiny:) Don't YOU talk about truth, you stupid, lying soviet shit. You want to go back to Odessa and the retail trade? You want your wife to do what she can for "hard currency" at the port of Odessa ? And you speak of "truth", etc.... Look at what your "allies" are : A racist, anti- American, incompetent, genocidal, fellow liars like sorokin. Did you ever get off your lazy ass and send a letter to the Math. Dept. of KY U. ? Did your wife or anyone? Larisa, while I think is neat, is not my ally. Everybody likes her. So what? She's on YOUR side and you are still being shitty. Smart move veytsmans. She is not with the 'Swarm'. Too bad. Wait until you go back to your Odessa, and the "pot-bellied, crooks like Kuchma" and the others "thieves" in Ukraine. :))) Tell everyone here how you'd fight for Nazis, etc... Over there they already know.:))) BTW- how welcome do you think you would be in Moscow either? :)))) FOOL ! Much later. From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu! news.byu.edu!gatech!nntp.msstate.edu!emory!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu! howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Fri Sep 16 16:05:41 EDT 1994 Article: 70592 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site husc15.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu! news.byu.edu!gatech!nntp.msstate.edu!emory!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu! howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Who is this Voronka anyway? Message-ID: <355qlu$6a1@search01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 13 Sep 1994 23:29:02 -0400 Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com References: <1994Sep13.111339.34724@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: search01.news.aol.com Lines: 57 Status: RO In article <1994Sep13.111339.34724@hulaw1.harvard.edu>, verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) writes: What about Vladimir Sorokin and the University of KY, the "red communist directors" of Kharkiv, Ukraine ? There's a lot of stuff that comes out on internet. You don't think they'd let a bunch of idiots talk for nothing do you? It's a job to listen and say nothing, and maybe probe to get them to say more. The tedious thing is that everything has to be noted and filed etc...exchange data with other friendlies. Wait, drink coffee and eat shitty donuts. Very boring work.:) Gotta make things happen or turn soviet yourself. What do you think the XXA does all day and everyday along with input from the XXX, XXX, XX or US X.......if you want to be more formal about it. Or the trained soviet communist, anti-American, agitator propagandists infiltrating our society like M. Verbitsky at Harvard (and THE REST OF THEM)? This is known to those who take an interest in such matters here and abroad. It's the government's duty to protect people from nazis and soviets because you guys are more then just foreign assholes. These people were sent by the "Old Guard". Washington, Ottawa, Moscow, Kiev, etc.. we know this. They read this even if no one else does. They get paid for this too! You guys get nothing for it, and you are "expendable", cheap labor. Working only from the soviet goodness of your hearts. Very ineffective, I and others might add.:) They had no idea what it was REALLY like here did they? A little quote from some of us to Voronka: “If I read this right, you're the only friendly we have there right now” (Tom Clancy). I heard you guys were so stupid that we can say and do anything and your programs will still run. IT'S TRUE. YOU CAN'T ADAPT. But ignore this. I just can't help myself. alex thurston fucking boring, boring, boring, boring - I WANT OUT! From husc-news.harvard.edu!hsdndev!rutgers!koriel!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Fri Oct 7 13:59:32 EDT 1994 Article: 72108 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!hsdndev!rutgers!koriel!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Alexplore isn't all that bad,so far as Americans go anyway Message-ID: <36dm1a$3j9@newsbf01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 29 Sep 1994 02:15:06 -0400 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Lines: 48 Status: RO IN SUBJECT: RE: TAMING KAGALENKO? In article <1994Sep28.185614.34991@hulaw1.harvard.edu>, verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) writes some rather typical, stupid, soviet shit: [some shit deleted] skip past some more sovok logic then to the good stuff:) "P. S. Revolution is a guilt (or achievement) of great many people, including Russians, Jews and Poles. I don't see much to discuss in the ethnic origins of people who originated the Revolution. In fact, mostly idiots (like Streltsov, Kosinovskiy, Russo-fascists, Balts and Ukrainians) argue about how their nation was innocent and raped by someone else's in course of Revolution and Soviet epoch." [more soviet shit deleted] then the anti-American, non-western subhuman, pork-hating, Christmas turkey murdering, sov/mong, agit-prop New Soviet, presents all Western humanity with this well reasoned delight:) "Funnily, no-one of mentioned above para-Nazis has any hard feelings against Czechs (me - I simply adore them, even Gashek stories about how he helped Commies to punish monks, priests and other nesoznatel'nyuyu publiku). This shows only one thing: that people most shouting about how their ancestors were raped by Russian (Jewish, Armenian, etc.) Commies just externalize their own hatred and contempt to other nations..." Gottcha Soviet Mother Fucker! In the ass - with your own little circumcised dick. Small as it is, nevertheless - still red and swollen. Still cooling and dangling out of your mouth! Sigh! But I like some of your posts. Reminds me of a time when more was sanctioned. I'm not here. I don't do volunteer work. Not my job. A tip for you: Put it on your tip when you take it out of your mouth. Stay away from the gehieme broderbund of sovoks! Keep your soviet tongue in your ass where it belongs! See? We humans aren't all bad! And this never happened. From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu! europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Mon Oct 10 12:06:35 EDT 1994 Article: 72225 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!yale!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu! europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Multi- National or Multi-Ethnic? Message-ID: <36rp2t$itl@newsbf01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 4 Oct 1994 10:33:01 -0400 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Lines: 319 Status: RO Subject: Re: Multi- National or Multi-Ethnic? From: Boris A. Veytsman Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:34:33 EDT Message-ID: <94276.193433BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> In article <1994Oct3.130635.23834@njitgw.njit.edu>, rovoro@m.njit.edu (roman voronka) says: > >In a few discussions regarding Ukraine, comparisons were made between >Switzerland, Belgium etc., multi-national states with more than one >official language and Ukraine. Ukraine is not a multi-national state, >it is multi-ethnic. There is no reason why there should be more than >one official language. Dear Dr. Voronka: The model for the future of Ukraine - will it be a state like France (you suggest) or like Switzerland or Belgium (I suggest) is not determined. We don't have a permanent constitution yet. Anyway, its adoption and amending is the sole prerogative of the Ukrainian citizens. We appreciate your advice. Nevertheless, as you - unlike, say, me or V. Sorokin - are not a Ukrainian citizen, your vote will not be counted. { PROFESSOR ROMAN VORONKA : YOUR WESTERN MONEY, SKILLS, EXPERTISE AND EFFORTS AND ALL OF YOUR INCREDIBLE ENERGIES AND AND TIME WILL BE COUNTED. THEIR SHIT SOVIET TALK , IS NOTHING. ALL THEY DO AND CAN DO IS FART AND TYPE. >What language its citizens use in their daily >encounters should not be monitored by the state. Speak whatever >language you wish, read and support whatever newspapers you desire. >Build and support schools that use the langage of your choice.But >don't demand that the postal employee or a govermnent official speak >to you in Hungarian, Polish or Russian. State business should be >conducted in the official language of the state. (As it is in Romania, >Poland, France and Spain). Citizens who do not have a command of the >official language should be given the opportunity to learn it. They >must be protected from any discrimination. If the state supports schools, it must have some commitment to a certain language(s) that used in the educational process. As to state officials, please remember that their salary is from my taxes (or, if we believe Dmitry Pruss, from {YOU CAN'T BELIEVE DIMITRY PRUSS FROM THE US NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH. AFTER HIS EXPOSURE AS AUTHOR OF THE GENOCIDE "JOKE", HE NOW SEEKS TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING A JEW AND LYING THAT HIS GENOCIDE "JOKE WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT". (IN WHAT CONTEXT IS A SOVIET "JOKE" ON GENOCIDE ANYWAY?) YOU VEYTSMAN, DENY AND LIE THE SOVIET GENOCIDE OF UKRAINIANS IN 1932-33 . NEVER HAPPENED. WESTERN , CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA. PRUSS AND VEYTSMAN ARE PROVABLE, IGNORANT AND ARROGANT SOVIET/NAZI LIARS. my debt obligations. You know, Dima, IOU is also a form of an indirect tax levied on my children). Therefore I have a right to expect them to talk to me in a way convenient to *me*, not to some jerk from Toronto. {FUCK YOU. YOU LYING SHIT SOVIET VEYTSMAN. FOR MY *WESTERN* TAX MONEY, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPECT YOU AND YOUR NASTY LITTLE SOVIETS TO SPEAK- IF ALLOWED TO- IN ANY WAY THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR *ME* AND THAT "JERK FROM TORONTO". JUST AS WESTERNERS ALLOW YOU THE HONOR TO EXIST IN N. AMERICA FOR THAT MATTER. AND DON'T OFFER ME THE DUBIOUS AND UNWANTED HONOR OF DUAL, SHIT CITIZENSHIP IN A BULLSHIT, PRIMITIVE, EX- SOVIET COUNTRY. THE SAME WAY RUSSIANS GENEROUSLY, AND THEY HULLICINATE, CLEVERLY, LIKE TO THROW AT EVERYONE. IT IS NOT IN WESTERN INTERESTS. I agree that Polish, Hungarian, etc. speaking people have the same right. {MOST MAGNANIMOUS OF YOU. BEEN OUT WEST EH SOVIET? The only thing that can be taken into consideration is practicality. {LIKE SOVIET "PRACTICALITY" AS REGARDS RUSSIFICATION? HARDLY A GOOD THING FROM A WESTERN TAX PAYERS PROSPECTIVE. EVEN WORSE FOR RUSSIAN PEOPLE, WEARY OF EMPIRE, BE IT RUSSIAN OR SOVIET FORMS. MORE LOGICAL FOR THIS "PRACTICALITY" TO BE DETERMINED BY WESTERN CONCEPTS. IT'S OUR MONEY. LIKE YOUR WESTERN SALARY AND VISA. Roughly speaking, are the taxes gathered from a given ethnic group minus reasonable overhead to the common needs sufficient to cover the expenses of having specially trained officials. {HUH? ANYONE ELSE OTHER THEN A SOVIET UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS CONTEXT? It is still to be determined in the case of, say, Ukrainian Poles. If it is possible, I support their right to a special status of their language. If not, some partial solution could be found. {HAVE TO FORWARD THIS TO A FEW FOREIGN FRIENDLIES TO TRANSLATE. Anyway, the case of Russophones is clear. {NO. They constitute a half of the Ukrainian population and have the right for this fact to be reflected in the legal system of their (our!) country. I agree with Dima Pruss that Western Ukrainian *were* more determined in their goals, and this caused considerable shift from the balanced domestic policy. However, they were too eager to Ukrainize everything and everybody. {NO. Therefore their efforts backfired. It seems that now the Russophones begin to be more and more determined to restore the balance. {KREMLIN POLICY MAKERS DETERMINED TO SUBVERT AND CONTROL THE INDEPENDENT NATIONS OF FORMER SOVIET EMPIRE. USING ALL METHODS, INCLUDING TROOPS. READ WHAT HAS AND IS HAPPENING. The one thing these Nationalists do well is uniting the Russophone population. {ANTI-IMPERIALISTS ALWAYS CAUSE IMPERIALISTS TO UNITE. ASK IMPERIALISTS FROM BRITISH EMPIRE. NO CLINTON OR STROBE TALBOT TO HELP THEM AT THAT TIME. >For those who advocate biligualism, two official languages, I point out >that Russia (Federation) is a self-declared multi-national state. Why is >it that those who worry about the state of the Russian language in Ukraine >don't promote the idea of making Ukrainian an official language in Russia? >Are there appearances in the Russian Parlament where deputies >(Ukrainians) use Ukrainian? Does the state publish textbooks in Ukrainian? >How many Ukrainian schools are there in Russia supported by the state? > Dear Dr. Voronka: I understand you are an American. Therefore it is not surprising that you, like many your compatriots, are ignorant of the fact that Ukraine is an independent state separate from Russia, Estonia or Andorra. Please ask Max Pyziur, he will send you maps of our country, gifs of our National Emblem, melody of our National Anthem and portraits of our Presidents (we already have had two of them, can you believe?) I hope you awareness of international realities will improve. {HOW WELL TRAVELED AND HOW MANY COPIES OF THE WALL STREET JOURNAL DID YOU READ BEFORE THE IRON CURTAIN STARTED TO RUST? Independence, among other things, means that our domestic policy should not and would not depend on the things done or not done by Russia in the course of *its* domestic policy. {INTERESTING FOR A FELLOW WHO SUCKED AND SWORE LOYALTY TO SOVIET SHIT AND KISSED COMMUNIST ASS ALL HIS LIFE. TILL LATELY WAS A COMMUNIST. COUPLE OF VISITS TO McDONALD'S, WATCH A FEW CARTOON SHOWS ON SATURDAY MORNING... AND THEY START TO PONTIFICATE ON TAXES, MARKET CHOICES, AND THE CONCEPTS OF INDEPENDENCE FOR THE FORMER SOVIET UKRAINE TO WESTERNERS. THEY THINK BY USING A FEW VERY DIMLY UNDERSTOOD CONCEPTS AND PHRASES, THEY CAN DECEIVE? DON'T DRINK THE COKE - SNORT IT YOU FOOL! Privately I would be glad if there will be more Ukrainian schools in Russia, Canada or Andorra. {WHY DO I SOMEHOW DOUBT THIS? However I am not a citizen of these countries. And to say the truth I lack your or Mr. Thurston's audacity to teach the citizens of these countries how they should conduct their internal affairs. {GOT NOTHING TO TEACH WESTERN COUNTRIES LIKE CANADA. THEY CAN BUY THEIR OWN HAMBURGERS AND STEREO. AS FOR THE LESSER, SHIT SOVIET COUNTRIES... THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING VERY WELL "CONDUCTING THEIR" BLOODY, STUPID, GENOCIDAL, VICIOUS, AND INCOMPETENT "INTERNAL AFFAIRS". I AUDACIOUSLY SAY. GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY BEG FOR MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALL THE TIME. GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU AND VLADIMIR SOROKIN ARE HERE TOO. IN OUR UNIVERSITY SCHOOL SYSTEM. THANK YOU AGAIN BILL CLINTON. Or the Mr. Sereda's arrogance to proclaim some, say, Canadian citizens the bitter enemies of Canadian people. I hope the Canadian people will determine their enemies and friends themselves. And we detrmine ours. (SHIT SOVIET- “THE MR. SEREDA”, DID NOT PROCLAIM THAT. I HOPE ALL WESTERNERS REALIZE WHO THEIR ENEMIES ARE FOR THEMSELVES AS WELL. KEEP TALKING STUPID. Well, thanks once more, Dr. Voronka, for your advice. {HE SHOULD CHARGE YOU FOR IT YOU SHIT SOVIET. We appreciate your effort. {BULLSHIT AGAIN. YOU JUST WANT OUR WESTERN MONEY, TECHNOLOGY, MARKETS, ECONOMICS, SCIENCE, MARKETING, MEDICINE, FOOD, CONDOMS, CANDY BARS AND WHISKEY. NOT TO LEARN HOW TO BE PRODUCTIVE. NOT TO BE EFFICIENT. TO BE MORE LIKE US. TO EARN WHAT WE HAVE. AND TO C - H - A - N - G - E YOUR WAYS. OR EVEN TO LEARN HOW TO USE WHAT WE GIVE YOU PROPERLY. DON’T USE THE CONDOMS FOR BALLONS AT SOVIET BIRTHDAY PARTYS. ALL THE ABOVE DIDN'T COME FROM JERKING OFF TO MARX AND READING ABOUT SOCIALISM LIKE YOU DID. IT CAME ABOUT FROM A WAY OF THOUGHT, PHILOSOPHY, ANALYSIS THAT IS VERY ALIEN TO THOSE OF YOU FROM MARS. IT IS OUR WAY. AND OUR WAY IS THE WESTERN WAY. YOUR WAY IS THE SHIT SOVIET WAY. AND YOU STILL LIKE TO ROLL AND WALLOW IN IT YOU PIG FUCKER. YOU veytsman, EVIDENTLY EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO MAINLINE IT. WITH A DIRTY NEEDLE STOLEN FROM A WESTERN JUNKIE. THE REASON YOUR ECONOMY, LIKE YOUR HOSPITALS AND EVERY SINGLE RAT LIKE ASPECT OF LIFE, (IN THE SEWER YOU ONCE PROUDLY SALUTED WITH TEARS IN YOUR LITTLE PIG LIKE EYES AND CALLED THE SOVIET UNION.) IS SO SCREWED UP BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. ALL YOUR LIFE. IT'S THE BAD HABIT OF BEING HABITUATED TO BEING HABITUALLY STUPID. AND THE REASON YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG IS BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKED UP AND CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT. A RATHER RHYTHMICALLY LOGICAL FLOW, ISN'T IT? It is even more impressive due to the fact that you were severely handicapped by the complete ignorance of the Ukrainian realities - up to the fact that you are evidently not aware of the Ukrainian independence. Good luck -Boris Organization: Penn State University Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:34:33 EDT From: Boris A. Veytsman Message-ID: <94276.193433BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> {"WHEN YE soviets PULL YOUR HEADS AND LITTLE PENISES OUT OF EACH OTHERS ASSES, YOU WILL FEEL THE TRUTH! YEA! YE WILL STUMBLE ABOUT AND CRY OUT STUPIDLY AND SAY UNTO OTHER STUMBLING soviets - GODDAMN! THE WESTERNERS ARE RIGHT! IT'S BETTER THIS WAY! YEA! YE WILL SEE THE LIGHT! AND THE LIGHT WILL ALWAYS BE WITH YOU." ALEX THURSTON- FROM HIS SERMON TO THE SHIT soviets _ _ .oooO / ) ( \ Oooo. ( ) / ( ) \ ( ) __^__ \ ( ( ) ( ) ) / __^__ ( ___ )-------------------\_).oooO-Oooo.(_/------------------------------------- -------( ___ ) | / | `Only a dumb beast, like a boar can have Boris Veytsman | \ | | / | in the arse; a man would fear that intestinal parasites | \ | |___| might devour his penis.'' - Jean Paul Marat, 1743--1793 |___| (_____)------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------(_____) ========================================================================== ====== From husc-news.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu! bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu! magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Thu Oct 20 17:21:33 EDT 1994 Article: 72775 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu! bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu! magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Lice in America??? Message-ID: <383k32$scl@newsbf01.news.aol.com> From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 19 Oct 1994 13:13:06 -0400 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com References: <3838tr$6n4@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Lines: 46 Status: RO In article <3838tr$6n4@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>, edp@south.psc.lsa.umich.edu (Eduard Ponarin) writes: (about his kid having lice) In article manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu (Dmitrii Manin) writes: (about his kid having lice too!) (about lice). The same story happenned to us: my 5 year old brought an identical note from his school (Kindergarten). The difference is that it is a public school (being a student, I can't afford a private school for my kids). But in general it is considered a good school in a good area. We were simply shocked because in our perception lice are associated with wars, refugees, etc. I think one gets lice if he doesn't shampoo his head on a regular basis. It is all the more puzzling because my perception of Americans was that they are quite serious about their hygiene... Ed Ponarin, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hmm.... seems it's not a good idea to let our kids go to school with little, dirty impearialist sovoks. Get lice from them! Ugh! You ARE disgusting, filthy creatures in many ways! " I think one gets lice if he doesn't shampoo his head on a regular basis. It is all the more puzzling because my perception of Americans was that they are quite serious about their hygiene..." Suggest Mr. Ponarin that sovoks wash themselves and little sovoks on a regular basis. Get some "Quell" (brand name). It's highly regarded as a "delouser". Should work even on the dirtiest of soviets. Fearfully, A Parent From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Sat Nov 5 00:10:54 EST 1994 Article: 44319 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: The Ukraine and Canada (Was RFERL Date: 2 Nov 1994 18:30:04 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 68 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3997ds$44c@newsbf01.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Status: RO In article , manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu (Dmitrii Manin) writes: In article <393i2m$68u@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o lying, minipulative, stupid, blood thirsty imperalist, ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Hey, Russian on -- English off? Poor Alex, your head is too small to hold two languages at once. You know why you don't have lice? They just don't fit comfortably on your head. -- - M .......................................................................... ................ My Goodness Gracious! The Hnyda Manin Family, wants to make me feel that my life is lacking in something that they are so very rich in. Hmm.....soviets would be able to say that I never really understand..... That metaphysically that it is beyond my WESTERN conception of ... UGH! Disgusting filthy, dirty, imperialist, nasty, lice-ridden sovoks! Soviets! Ugh! A Little soviet Poem: Hnyda Manin? Oh HNYDA MANIN !!! Were I so fortunate as to acquire a louse or two >From a Hnyda Manin Or even a Hnyda Ponarin how fortunate for me! Not to bathe for a season or two? That would not make me at all blue For I am the New Soviet Man Able to take my huj in hand Shake my imperialist stick For I would have a flacid dick For I am the New Soviet Man I am Dimitrii the Hnynda Man xxxxxxxxxx Did Gorky write that in the park? How good is your Espanol in NY these days Dim Tree? From fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Fri Nov 25 18:57:34 EST 1994 Article: 47009 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Alex Thurston, you have no mind (from THEfish:) Date: 25 Nov 1994 05:45:06 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 291 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3b4f7i$4lu@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Status: RO A MOST DELICATE RESPONSE TO A POST BY A SOVOK "DEEP THROAT" AND VERY LOUD AND THREATENING, STUKACH (UN)FEMALE(?) THAT I HAVEN'T BOTHERED TO POST - UNTIL NOW. Subject: Alex Thurston you have nothing ressembling a mind From: lafish@oregon.uoregon.edu Date: 21 Nov 1994 02:24:06 GMT Message-ID: <3ap0c6$lqt@pith.uoregon.edu> Alex, I was about to disregard your entire message because, well, there was really NOTHING of substance in it at all to which to respond. {HAD YOU NOT SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF EVEN SHORT TERM RECALL, LIKE ALL SOVOK BYDLO, YOU WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED THAT MY PREVIOUS POST REFLECTED THE SAME SENTIMENTS, WHICH YOU NOW, PLAGARISTICALY APE. REGARDING THE ABOVE, I STATED MOST CLEARLY AND EMPHATICALLY THAT MY REMARKS TO YOU WERE VERY APROPRIATE AND WELL CHOSEN GIVEN MY KINDLY MEANT OBSERVATION THAT YOUR RESPONCE TO WHISTLER'S POST DID NOT ADDRESS HIS FACTS, LOGIC, VECTOR OF REASONING, ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, AND THAT YOUR REPLY WAS DEVOID OF ANY HUMANITARIAN, HISTORICAL, ECONOMIC, OR CIVILIZED CONTENT. NOT A SINGLE IOTA OF DATA WAS PRESENTED ON MY SCREEN, WITNESSED INSTEAD WAS YOUR EMOTIVE, UNSTRUCTURED SOVIET RAMBLINGS, DISCONECTED SOVOK OPINIONS AND WHAT YOU MORONICALLY IMAGINE TO BE FOR EVERYONE'S DELECTATION, THE THRILLING END RESULT AND EFFORT OF THE DISGUSTING, WET SOUND OF THE RATTLE AND PRATTLE OF A BIG, SLOPPY SOVIET HNYDA PIZDA FLOPING AT THE KEYBOARD. DUE TO MY KINDNESS IN INFORMING YOU MORE SUBTLY OF THAT FACT EARLIER, YOU REWARD MY GRACIOUNESS WITH INSULT, LIKE THE LOW, UNGRATEFUL SOVIET KURVA YOU ARE. NOTE WELL BRUDNA SUKA, THAT YOU S-T-I-L-L DO NOT ADDRESS WHISTLER'S POST AND FEEL A DEEP LOUNGING INSTEAD TO BITE A BLAMELESS, LARGE, CLEAN WESTERN HUIJ WHICH YOU SENSE WITH YOUR SOVOK MONGOL CUNNING THAT I POSSESS, RATHER THEN RESPOND TO THE MATTER AT *HAND*. DROP YOUR WESTERN VIBRATOR AND LEARN SOMETHING! NO I DO NOT MEAN THE EXAMPLE OF YOUR POST TO ANOTHER THREAD IN WHICH YOU EXPRESSED YOUR DEEP DESIRE TO VOLUNTEER YOUR UNWASHED, SOVIET ROACH FILLED PIZDA FOR A "CUNALINGUS LAB" IN THE THREAD _ABOUT RUSSIAN MEN_ IN S.C.SOVIET EITHER,TE SOVIETSKAYA KURVA! FEH! I WOULDN'T YOB YOU WITH YELTSIN'S HUIJ YOU PIG MEAT,INSTEAD YOU SHOULD HANG A HEMONGOUS SIGN ON IT WARNING: DANGER! WORMS AND WORSE IF NOT THOURGHLY WASHED AND BOILED FOR 3 OR MORE HOURS! The last line annoyed me a great deal though. {PIZDA DROCHIT, HUIJ TEREBIT!} Nowhere have I been an appologist for the Soviet government. {YOU LIE AGAIN BRAIN DEAD, GRUBA SVINKA! PULL THAT SEMI-FERMENTED RYBA FROM YOUR NOGI AND LET ANOTHER SOVIET EAT IT! YOU PAID ABSOLUTELY NO HEED TO WHISTLER'S POST OR FORGOT IT AGAIN, YOU WANT ME TO REPOST IT AGAIN ALONG WITH YOUR HIGHLY "INTELLIGENT" REPLY TO IT, SO THAT ALL CAN SEE WHAT A LYING, BRAZEN SOVIET HNYDA PIZDA YOU ARE? SEE MORE OF YOUR CONTRADICTION IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID (ABOVE) WITH WHAT FOLLOWS THAT YOU PEN (BELOW) PIZDA BRAIN.} Again, I believe "barbarism'was the term I used. I am saying that the situation -- the socio- cultural situation - {"THE SOCIO-CULTURAL SITUATION" !?!? HUH? DO YOU "DROCHIT" YOURSELF WHILE WRITING THIS? IS THE PRESS SPOKESMEN FOR THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT DOWN THERE WITH A ROACH OR TWO IN HIS "ROT"?} which allowed that government to be in power so long is an extremely complex one. {IT'S "EXTREMELY COMPLEX" ONE FOR A DURAK OR A SOVIET GENOCIDAL APOLOGIST. ANSWER WHISTLER'S POST INSTEAD OF USING YOUR SOVIET-MONGOL CUNNING, IT WONT WORK HERE.} It is very sad, the entire situation of Russia. {THERE ARE 110 NATIONALITIES IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION, DEPENDING ON WHO COUNTS AND HOW, NOT SOLELY THE UNFORTUNATE RUSSIANS, RIGHT? WHISTLER'S POST MENTIONED 10 MILLION UKRAINIANS KILLED DURING THE "COLLECTIVIZATION" OF 1932-33, HE DIDN'T COVER IN HIS RELATIVELY BRIEF POST THE MILLIONS DEPORTED AND MILLIONS LOST DURING THIS FORCED RELOCATION OF THE DENIED TO THIS DAY, SOVIET GENOCIDE. HOW COMPLEX IS THE QUESTION THAT SOVIET GOVERNMENT IN MOSCOW MANAGED TO STAY IN POWER? IT'S VERY APPARENT, EVEN HERE THIS MEANS NOTHING TO YOU EXCEPT SOME VERY BRIEF, INSINCERE AND DESULTORY LIP SERVICE, NOT RESULTING IN ANY _CLIMACTIC_ END. WHAT ABOUT THE BALTIC NATIONS? CHEECHENS? CRIMEAN TARTARS? AND MANY MORE.... THESE RECORDS STILL REMAIN SEALED IN THE KREMLIN'S VAULTS. THE NAZIS KEPT BETTER RECORDS AND WERE TRIED FOR THEIR CRIMES, AKNOWLEDGED THEIR CRIMES AND SENTENCED. THE POST WWII GERMAN GOVERNMENT FREELY ADMITS TO THE PAST AND HAS PAID REPARATIONS. YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER WHISTLER EXCEPT TO ATTACK AND DENY HIM, IN SPITE OF HIS GENDER.} NOTE HOW THROUGHOUT THIS POST YOU SWITCH BETWEEN "RUSSIA" AND "SOVIET" SO EASILY, PLEASING MANY RUSSIANS I AM MOST SURE. YOU REALLY IDENTIFY WITH THIS DON'T YOU? YOU SWALLOWED IT WHOLE, TO THE HILT, SUCKED GREEDILY AND DIDN'T CHOKE AT ALL, DID YOUR GRANDMOTHER SERVICE STALIN AS WELL? I have so many friends (and family) there, and I feel really bad that they have such a tough time. {THEY LOST POWER, CONTROL, MONEY? WHAT ARE THEY AND YOU THAT YOU LOOK AT IT ONLY IN THIS WAY?} They are smart, educated people {"SMART, EDUCATED PEOPLE", LIKE YOU TY KRETINSKA PIZDA? A SOVIET "EDUCATION" AS IN HISTORY? ECONOMICS? SOVIET QUALITY MEDICINE? NUCLEAR WEAPONS? GENOCIDE? COURSES IN MARXISM? HOW TO BE DECENT AND HOW TO THINK? SOVIET TECHNOLOGY? AND KNOWING WHAT "CUNILINGUS LAB" TO VOLUNTEER FOR IF A HNYDA PIZDA BRAIN, AS AN EXAMPLE, OF WHAT WILL MAKE RUSSIA GREAT AND POWERFUL AND AS LARGE AS YOUR PARTS? AND WHERE THE NEAREST WESTERN WELFARE AID STATION IS SO THEY CAN KEEP PIZDA LIKE YOU AND THEIR ARMIES HOME FOR WESTERN $$$$ AND A RELIABLE SOVIET PROMISE TO BE GOOD? ASK THE GEORGIANS, AZERIS, TAGIKIS, CHEECHENS, ETC..ABOUT THAT RIGHT KNOW. and they suffer for the government they had.They still suffer for it. ON THE OTHER HAND, if they participated more activley in their politics and demanded better, they just might get it. {GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT "THINKS" LIKE YOU, IT WOULD SEEM THAT SOME GROUPS DIDN'T SUFFER ENOUGH. (20% FOR THE ZHIRONOVSKY VOTE - NOT COUNTING PAMYAT AND OTHER IDIOTIC GROUPS. IF YOUR ASSOCIATES KNOW AS MUCH HISTORY AND ARE AS HONEST ABOUT IT AS YOU ARE,THE WORST IS YET TO COME - AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT IN YOUR MOUTH, PAID FOR BY WESTERN TAX MONIES AS IS YOUR ACCOUNT.} There is a sort of fatalism there about government, which is probably exactly WHY the Soviet system lasted so long. {"PROBABLY EXACTLY" !?!? HUH?} My Russian friends always {YES. SOVIET, RUSSIAN, THEN SOVIET AGAIN..I THOUGHT IT WAS "INTERNATIONALIST" AND DEVOID OF "PETTY NATIONALISM", EXCEPT FOR BEING - BACK THEN: THE "FIRST SOCIALIST STATE", AND NOW THE "SUCCESSOR STATE" AND STILL NOW THE "FIRST AMONG EQUALS"!? AND AT OTHER TIMES "THE GREATEST VICTIM OF COMMUNISM" - SUCH IMPORTANCE! !?} say to me: A nation deserves the government it has. I take this to mean that if they don't do something to change it, then it is what they deserve, but their tone implies always a much more fatalistic idea behind this. {AH! THE METAPHYSICAL RUSSIAN SOUL! PRICE OF EGGS IN CHINA IS NOW BEING SOLD FOR.... (HOPE YOU DON'T GET ROBBED OF YOUR PURSE IN SAVOK.) CURRENT PRICE OF EGGS IN CHINA IS NOW.... WHAT RELEVANCE IS THIS, DROOLING SUKA? HOW ABOUT SOME POETRY?} Anyway, Lyosha, I don't think you understand ANYTHING of what I have been saying. {HOW COULD I?} Possibly it is because you are not very intelligent, {HMM...I *AM* TALKING WITH A STUPID, SOVOK, SOVIET KURVA AREN'T I?!} or it may be that I am hopelessly convoluting my arguments. {BRILLIANT THOUGHT. TURN YOUR VIBRATOR OFF. DON'T WORRY THOUGH, ALL SOVOKS KNOW THEY ARE REAL SMART, THIS TEMP. ABERATION IN THOUGHT CONCERNING YOUR "CONVOLUTING" AND INTELLECTUAL CONTORTIONS OUT OF YOUR NICE FUZZY SOVIET RAT HOLE? - IT SHALL PASS, HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN SOVIET THINKING.} Probably a bit of both. {MOST MAGNANIMOUS OF YOU, SOVOK BYDLO DEAR.} And, by the way, Lyosha, what exactly makes you an expert on the Soviet system? {A WESTERN MIND.} Or gives you any authority to call me the 'p' word, {SEE ABOVE. BTW, IN THIS COUNTRY, I DON'T NEED STATE APPROVAL FROM THE SUPREME SOVIET TO CALL A DUMB PIZDA, A DUMB PIZDA. BTW, DID YOU EVER FIND YOUR "CUNNILINGUS LAB"? besides your own political beliefs, which are obviously extremely fascist at any rate. {YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY SOVIET, WHICH GOES WITH BEING A DIRTY, FAT,HNYDA PIZDA. CRY LOUDLY, IN A SHRILL SOVOK FASHION, "FASCIST! FASCIST!", WHEN YOU ARE DISPLEASED WITH A TRUTH THAT DOES NOT FLATTER THE SOVIET OR THE SELF-DECLARED "SUCCESSOR STATE OF THE SOVIET UNION". FOR YOUR CHEESY BRAIN AND PARTS NOTE THAT: FASCISM = SOCIALISM = COMMUNISM THIS FOLLOWS THAT FROM THE PROSPECTIVE OF THE AUSTRIAN SCHOOL OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE REGARDING THE ABOVE BLOOD BROTHERHOOD, SAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD THE COMMUNISTS WERE EVEN MORE ECONMICALLY INCOMPETENT, STUPID, VICIOUS, KILLED MORE PEOPLE, ATTEMPTED GENOCIDE ON MORE GROUPS, BURIED THEIR CRIMES BETTER, STILL DENY THEM, AND PASSED ON THEIR CHARMING RUSSIAN IMPERIAL-SOVIET TRADITIONS TO THEIR MOST FOULY BRED "HOMO SOVIETICUS", AFTER KILLING AS MANY HOMO SAPIENS AS THEY COULD. My father always liked ot point out that Republican governments always ---- or Republican administrations, that is --- always got on best with the Soviets. {YOUR DRUNKEN SOVOK DADDY KNOWS AS MUCH AS YOU DO AND TAUGHT YOU VERY WELL, YOU INHERITED HIS SOVIET BRAIN, DEVELOPED BY AND AFTER THE SOVIET STATE BRED HIM RIGHT? Andrea SOVOKINA { FAT, DUMB, BRUTAL, HAIRY LEGGED, SOVOK PIZDA WITH NO BRAIN.} LA FISH@PIZDA.uoregon.edu {SOVOK STANDARD DISCLAIMER: NO GRATITUDE FOR AMERICAN TAX SUPORT EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED. ALL STUPIDITIES ARE ENTIRELY SOVIET PERMEATED AND NECESSARILY BRUTAL IN OUTLOOK.) ----------------------- Headers ----------------------- Path: newsbf01.news.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!uunet!pipex!howland.reston.ans .net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!oregon.uoregon.edu!LAFISH From: lafish@oregon.uoregon.edu Newsgroups: alt.current-events.russia Subject: Alex Thurston you have nothing ressembling a mind Date: 21 Nov 1994 02:24:06 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon Lines: 38 Message-ID: <3ap0c6$lqt@pith.uoregon.edu> Reply-To: lafish@oregon.uoregon.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: oregon.uoregon.edu From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!clpd-newsserver!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Sat Apr 1 00:02:10 EST 1995 Article: 66717 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!clpd-newsserver!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Date: 31 Mar 1995 03:14:34 GMT Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: My apologies to all. Vulis is IMPOTENT and FOOL!!! Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3koxjh$won@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Lines: 19 Status: RO I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY WHOM I OFFENDED OR HARASSED LATELY. I AM VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT IS NOT MY FAULT BUT INFLUENCE AND MINIPULATION OF VULIS. WE ARE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE. HE TRIED TO FUCK ME RECENTLY AND I EVEN LET HIM DO THAT AND TRIED TO GET HIM UP AND HELP HIM HE LOOKED SO DESPERATE. I EVEN TRIED ORAL SEX, BUT HE COULD NOT HAVE ERECTION AND THEN BEAT ME SEVERELY. I SPENT TWO HOURS IN A HOSPITAL. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY HIS WIFE MARINA HAS BRUISES ON ALL HER BODY AND IS PREPARING ROF DIVORCE. I URGE EVERYONE NOT TO HAVE ANY SEXUAL OR OTHER CONTACTS WITH SOVOK BYDLO VULIS. I WANT ALL OF YOU TO KNOW THAT AI SIMULATION DAEMON IS NOT A COMPUTER PROGRAM BUT ANOTHER ACCOUNT OF PIDER ASSHOLE VULIS. From fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!demon!not-for-mail Sun Jun 18 20:18:56 EDT 1995 Article: 76070 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!demon!not-for-mail From: Name withheld by request Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: NET/ABUSE: SKURRRRRVY SYN BORYA VEYTSMONGOL FROM SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET Date: 18 Jun 1995 00:25:16 +0100 Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. Lines: 254 Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <199506172307.BAA24519@utopia.hacktic.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: dispatch.demon.co.uk XWarn: This message was forwarded by an Anonymous Remailer. XComm: Hack-Tic does not necessarily approve of the contents of this posting. XComm: Please report inappropriate use to X-Posting-Host: utopia.hacktic.nl Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:76070 soc.culture.russian:8273 soc.culture.ukrainian:16541 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:5437 Status: RO BELOVED READERS, GENTLEMEN AND DELICATE LADIES: AND PAY ATTENTION YOU GODAMN NASTY, STUPID, FILTHY, VIRULENT, INFECTIOUS, LYING SOVOKS! (Sonorous cabbage farts, and drunken, loutish sounds are hushed - a few say "Da -uh !?" - fatty food and bad soviet dental work easily seen.) THEY (OF SOVOK) ARE MANY, THE GOOD ARE FEW. THE HOARDE OF SOVOK UNION IMPERIALISTS ARE INDIVIDUALY INFERIOR. LIKE THE HEROIC CHECHENS, WE SHALL ENDURE UNTIL CLINTON, YELTSIN, AND VEYTSMAN LOSE THEIR FAT ASSES. BY THE WAY: ABOUT THAT LYING, GUTLESS, STUKACH, PRETENTIOUS SHIT, HACK AND WANNABEE, WOULDBE, WRITER, PIDER VOROBEEF (HE WROTE NUMEROUS FALSEHOODS, BEHIND MY BACK -- HE ACTUALLY TOOK PRUSS' ANTI-SEMITIC ARTICLE AND PUT MY HEADER ON IT AND SENT IT TO AOL 'CAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT WITH AOL'S SECURITY POLICY--- VERY LOW ISN'T IT?? AT LEAST I *POSTED* MY COMPLAINT ABOUT PRUSS WITH A "CC: POSTMASTER@NIH" FOR _ALL_ TO SEE. BUT I USED HIS *ENTIRE* POST. I WOULD NEVER SUBSTITUTE HEADERS AND SEND THAT HATE MESSAGE TO AOL LIKE VOROBIEFF DID TO ME. SO NOW I AM LIKE A CHECHEN - AGAINST THE HOARDE, CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, DEVIANTS, SOCIALISTS, REVANCHIST SOVOKS AND OTHER RIFF RAFF. MY ENEMIES IN LOW PLACES STILL HOLD POWER. EVEN PRUSS IS STILL WORKING... SORT OF... GOOFING OFF @ NIH FOR $103,000 / YEAR OF MY TAX MONEY... 'THOUGH I CAN FINISH HIM OFF WHENEVER AND IF EVER I WANT TO :)) ...... "BUT THE QUALITY OF MERCY IS NOT STRAINED BUT RATHER FALLETH LIKE THE DEW..." I AM DOING "TIME IN A BOTTLE....." FOR NOW :) BUT I'M COMING BACK. THE MASKED AVENGER.......(AND RED STALKER) ALEXPLORE AND NOW... FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE... ANOTHER CRIMINAL FORGERY FROM THE WHOREBREATH SOVOK AND E-MAIL THREATS FROM THE SKURRRRVY SYN VEYTSMONGOL, WHO SENT CARBON COPIES OF HIS CRIMINAL PROVOCATIONS TO HUNDREDS OF SOVOKS, WHO IN TURN FORWARDED THEM TO OUR GEHEIME ANTI-SOVOK PARTISAN ARMY. .................................. begin forwarded............................. >From [deleted] Fri Jun 9 22:48:16 -0400 199* Received: by [deleted) id [] alexplore; Fri, 9 Jun 199* 22:48:16 -0400 Received: from [deleted] for ; Fri, 9 Jun 199* 20:26:42 -0400 Received: by [deleted] for ; Fri, 9 Jun 9* 20:15:26 -0400 To: [deleted] Cc: [deleted] Subject: Iz arkhivov Useneta From: [deleted] Message-Id: [deleted] Date: Fri, 09 Jun 9* 19:46:53 EDT In-Reply-To: [deleted] Organization: [GEHEIME ANTI-SOVOK GANG] Status: R Cc: [deleted] Vladimir, Vot Vam eshche odna istoricheskaya stat'ya pro Boryu Veytsmongola: Ej uzhe poltora goda. ================================================================================ Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.sex.bestiality,alt.tasteless,alt.test,misc.test,eunet.test,relcom.test From: "Boris A. Veytsman" Subject: Boris Veytsman and his sexual perversions Message-ID: <94024.001020BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet,alt.sex.bestiality Organization: Penn State University Date: Mon, 24 Jan 199* 05:10:20 GMT Lines: 42 Ever wondered why the clueless newbie Boris Veytsman inundates Usenet with his bigoted rantings and ravings and forces users to wade through his inane dribblings? Well, according to Boris Veytsman's chronically neglected, sexually frustrated, and visibly underfucked wife (that ugly slut who graduated MehMat), Boris Veytsman is completely impotent and his only way to become sexually aroused is to post racist smut to Usenet while being fucked in the ass by an underage pot-bellied piglet, who shares with Boris Veytsman an outhouse basement in Philadelphia's red lights district, acting as both a pet and a loving, caring boyfriend. Boris Veytsman's wife frequently fucks him in the ass with a dildo, while he in turn fucks his maternal grandmother, a grossly overweight old Jewish lady, but he finds true bliss only with the pig. The racist ravings emanating from Pennsylvania State University are just a side effect of Boris Veytsman's and his same-sex animal companion's bizarre foreplay. During these kinky "rough sex" sessions, the otherwise frigid Boris Veytsman reaches orgasms only when he feels the hog's hot sperm oozing out of his ass, just as freshly excreted fascist manure is fertilizing the net. He then sells to his fellow zoophiles pictures of himself and the hog performing fellatios on each other. Boris Veytsman uses rancid pig excrement as playdough to concoct his postings, as well as for lunch, and ravenously goes down on pigs for dinner. In a failed attempt to harden his non-functioning reproductive organ, the sperm-drenched, shit-encrusted Odessite spends hours every day on his knees, "romantically linked" to his hog: rimming its beshitted vent, filching the "sloppy seconds" semen from there, licking the sweat off its balls, sucking its corkscrew-shaped cock, holding it by the tail with one hand, and masturbating himself with the other. All the swill pouring out of Penn State is a byproduct of oral-anal interaction between this virulent needledick and its cloven-hoofed domestic partner. To further satisfy his pig-toe sucking fetish, Boris Veytsman throws e-shit at his perceived enemies, lies through its teeth, moaning, groaning, frothing, and foaming at his mouth around the clock and around the hog's cock, and overwhelms the net with the smell of chronic halitosis and pig sperm on his breath. Boris Veytsman's aberrant sexual life has negatively impacted its mental integrity. The vicious racist, obsessed with preserving the purity of Jewish race and with computing the precise percentages of Jewish blood in other's veins, has suffered severe brain damage as the result of being ass-fucked by the hog, and has been officially diagnosed on the net with paranoia, schizophrenia, rabies, syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, and giant genital warts. Good luck -Boris ================================================================================ Vot otvetnoe pis'mo s ugrozami: ================================================================================ Message-Id: <9401270427.AA15362@uu.psi.com> Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU by CUNYVMS1.GC.CUNY.EDU (MX V3.3 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 26 Jan 199* 23:26:37 EST Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0556; Wed, 26 Jan 9* 23:26:07 EST Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin BAV2@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 3321; Wed, 26 Jan 199* 23:25:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 9* 23:25 EST From: "Boris A. Veytsman" To: dlv@CUNYVMS1.GC.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: Adding the Nazi Boris Veytsman to the nomenclature of network fasc Dear Mr. Vulis: Please be advised that your recent actions can be characterized as harassment. It is a crime in USA. I strongly urge you to stop this course of actions. Otherwise any responsibility for the consequences is on you. Sincerely yours Dr. Boris A. Veytsman ================================================================================ (I nastuchal v CUNY, no v tot raz bezrezul'tatno) A vot massovaya e-mail, kotoruyu mne pereslali, gde on prizuvaet nas sudit': ================================================================================ Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6023; Thu, 13 Oct 9* 11:39:00 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin BAV2@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with RFC822 id 8638; Thu, 13 Oct 199* 11:39:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 9* 11:38 EDT From: "Boris A. Veytsman" Subject: Some Legal Issues To: verbit@math.harvard.edu Cc: distribution:@**********; (see end of body) In-Reply-To: verbit AT math.harvard.edu -- Wed, 12 Oct 9* 12:38:52 EDT Dear friends: I have heard some strange proposals about FBI. It is childish. FBI has other things to do besides solve our problems. As far as I know nobody received a death letter from Alexplore, so please let FBI alone. However it is correct that Alexplore and Vulis commited some criminal actions. As far as I can see they may be rendered guilty in: 1. Harassment of several people; 2. Slander and libel, public diffamation; 3. Threatening letters (I received a couple of such from 'plore. Anybody else?) However, no police unit will do anything. If we want to see the action, we must act ourselves. The only way I see is to hire a lawyer and begin a civil case. There may be two disadvantages of this course: 1. Internet is a "gray area" for the law 2. Lawyers are rarther expensive. However there is a budding public interest to the Internet. Some precedents will be set in the nearest future. Why cannot we ride the wave instead of resisting it? This may be interesting for a young and ambitious lawyer too. Besides, there are lots of us. I'll gladly contribute $100 to this case. If any of us will give $50..$100, we can retain a decent lawyer - with the understanding of a better fee after winning the case. I live in a small town. We have a very small number of lawyers here. Anybody living in a big city has any ideas? Better yet, knows a good young lawyer? Any comments? Good luck -Boris %%% overflow headers %%% Cc: FRIMERLV@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, aburshte@sas.upenn.edu, alex@math.upenn.edu, ask@netcom.com, borisv@ctron.com, delitsin@geology.wisc.edu, egokman@lehman.com, frimerlv@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu, paul@arizona.edu, ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov, pv02@lehigh.edu, ruten@delphi.com, AT@math.harvard.edu, SLUVCA.SLU.EDU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU, simon@bu.edu, simon@cq1.bu.edu, verbit@math.harvard.edu, zeleny@math.ucla.edu, alex@selway.umt.edu, alyosha@clark.net, amodel@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu, aria@acsu.buffalo.edu, cve@tiamat.umich.umd.edu, d-glinberg@nwu.edu, demya001@maroon.tc.umn.edu, dglin@merle.acns.pwu.edu, dvv@SPRINTLINK.NET, genyuk@math.ohio-state.edu, gnovak@atl1.america.net, gorelik@merle.acns.nwu.edu, iak@umlinfo.unl.edu, igor@che.rochester.edu, igor@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, ilberlin@ellis.uchicago.edu, ivin@aquila.eecs.berkeley.edu, kisa@expert.purdue.edu, kosinov@ceg.uinc.edu, landsberg@sbhep.physics.sunysb.edu, leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu, lvovich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, mae2@lns62.lns.cornell.edu, mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu, mestechr@vnet.ibm.com, mfligenko@aol.com, mikhail@cis.ksu.edu, misha@vm.temple.edu, olegk@psg.com, petr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, rkostin@quaver.urbana.mcd.edu, sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu, sergei@mk.ibek.com, sizraile@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, vadik@cs.umd.edu, zak@clark.net, dmpruss@freenet.hut.fi %%% end overflow headers %%% ================================================================================ finger veytsman@psu.edu name: Veytsman, Boris phone: +1 814 865 1288 address: 3070 STEIDLE BLDG : UNIVERSITY PARK, PA 16802 campus: University Park department: College of Earth and Mineral Sciences title: SCHLR-PSTDOC email to: bav2@psu.edu (bav2@email.psu.edu) .................................. end from Alexplore......................... From alexplore@bwalk.dm.com Sun Oct 29 22:49:46 EST 1995 Article: 87468 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!hookup!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news00.sunet.se!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!perun!alexplore From: alexplore@bwalk.dm.com (A.T.) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.magyar,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.romanian,soc.culture.czecho-slovak,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.usa,alt.current-events.russia,alt.current-events.ukraine,relcom.politics,relcom.talk,relcom.fido.su.general,relcom.postmasters.d,relcom.netnews,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.religion.kibology,alt.culture.usenet,news.admin.policy,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.internet.media-coverage,earth.general,misc.news.internet.discuss,alt.sex.anal,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex.homosexual Subject: THE MOST SOVIET EX-KGB INFORMANT: PIDOR VOROBIEFF FROM SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 18:43:22 EST Expires: 29 Oct 98 18:43:22 EST Organization: Alien Med Lines: 191 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:26324 soc.culture.ukrainian:20769 soc.culture.soviet:87468 soc.culture.magyar:12729 soc.culture.polish:31747 soc.culture.romanian:22926 soc.culture.czecho-slovak:21771 soc.culture.europe:28670 soc.culture.baltics:15022 soc.culture.usa:73531 alt.current-events.russia:9424 alt.current-events.ukraine:3074 alt.usenet.kooks:24116 alt.religion.kibology:84722 alt.culture.usenet:15408 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:21240 misc.news.internet.discuss:445 alt.politics.homosexuality:73158 Status: RO Subject: Re: 10 forged cancels in various newsgroups Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:26:11 -0400 In article <46bqfu$jcv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> you wrote: >In article <468aag$615@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, >Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote: >> >>Mr. Vorobieffs attitude and actions in this matter are interesting >>to consider, in light of his actions earlier this year. He complained >>to our postmaster after I had attempted to redirect some discussions >>to soc.culture.russian by posting follow-up postings with a short >>addendum stating that this discussion should be in soc.culture.russian >>and/or soc.culture.soviet. The posted messages contained some "pithy" >>language by Mr. Peter Vorobieff. Mr. Vorobieff also threatened to use >>the "cancelmoose" against me. >>--Rostyk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx TO: All people if you want to remain free RE: Most Soviet Vorobieff pvO2@lehigh.edu (Pidor Vorobieff) The filthy purebred Sovok informer "stukach" Pidor Vorobieff wrote lying complaints "donosy" on me. He is also effeminate, sneaky and back stabbing despite his very loud mouthing about "honor" etc. Vorobieff, like all sovoks, is just following his family's tradition. He can't take the truth... he lacks honesty, as did the elder sovok Vorobieff animal (now dead) that sired him by studding that sovok whore that used to suck the cocks of party members in Moscow for herring and vodka and a chance to advance among sovoks, really, the dirty, bright flame red-mouthed, painted slut... Vorobieff sucked the dick of the sovok state *before* the fall of THE SOVOK UNION, such a loyal little boy and student, anything to preserve the STATE OF SOVOK, including being a "helper" for the KGB. Vorobieff described the Chechen struggle for freedom by comparing it with the LA riots, calling them "all criminals.... responsible for all the crime in Russia.." and gives the OFFICIAL LINE, and cares naught for the costs in economic treasure, lives, freedom for he is a dedicated soviet, sovok shit, and KGB stooge. Vorobieff says that Ukrainians, Byelorusians, and Russians are the "same people," with a "common history," A familiar, soviet lie and distortion, that tramples on all those peoples and scholarship for the sake of a Greater Expansionist Russia, that no one can afford, least of all the Russians. Official disinformation that serves to divert an ignorant, brutal and stupid soviet public's attention >from the real problems of the area.... What Vorobieff was in sovok, he is here...he just feels a little more insecure about it, but..... * SOVIET IS AS SOVIET DOES * Sincerely, Alexplore PS Here is a repost of how I fell victim of Sovok Agent Pidor Vorobeef: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: NET/ABUSE: SKURRRRRVY SYN BORYA VEYTSMONGOL FROM SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET Date: 18 Jun xxxxxx> THEY (OF SOVOK) ARE MANY, THE GOOD ARE FEW. THE HORDE OF SOVOK UNION IMPERIALISTS ARE INDIVIDUALLY INFERIOR. LIKE THE HEROIC CHECHENS, WE SHALL ENDURE UNTIL....... BY THE WAY: ABOUT THAT LYING, GUTLESS, "STUKACH", PRETENTIOUS SHIT, HACK AND WANNABEE, WOULD-BE, WRITER, PIDOR VOROBEEF (HE WROTE NUMEROUS FALSEHOODS, BEHIND MY BACK -- HE ACTUALLY TOOK PRUSS' ANTI-SEMITIC ARTICLE AND PUT MY HEADER ON IT AND SENT IT TO AOL 'CAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT WITH AOL'S SECURITY POLICY--- VERY LOW ISN'T IT?? AT THE VERY LEAST I *POSTED* MY COMPLAINT ABOUT ANTI-SEMITE PRUSS WITH A "CC: POSTMASTER@NIH" FOR _ALL_ ANTI-SEMITES AND SOVIETS TO SEE AND I USED HIS *ENTIRE* POST. I WOULD NEVER SUBSTITUTE HEADERS AND SEND THAT HATE MESSAGE TO AOL LIKE VOROBIEFF DID TO ME. SO NOW I AM LIKE A CHECHEN - AGAINST THE HORDE, CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, DEVIANTS, SOCIALISTS, REVANCHIST SOVOKS AND OTHER RIFF RAFF. .... END The below post is by the anti-Semite, pro- Russian expansionist and fellow soviet ideologue, that Vorobieff felt he needed to protect and defend (and even generously, gave me credit for Pruss posting when he skulked and slunk around, when western eyes werent watching to AOL) (Whose contents Vorobieff attributed to me!) : From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892 ..........................................Dimitry Pruss of N.I.H., writes: Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 19:30:32 GMT Message-ID: <1994Sep24.193032.3421@alw.nih.gov> In article akk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gustav Akk) writes: > Or in other words: if one massacres Jews he is not right, and > if one builds them a monument - he is not right either. > Makes you wonder what do they want.... Well you know if you ask 3 Jews a question, you'll end up with 4 opinions, at least 3 of them being diametrally opposite. If that makes you uncomfortable, then there's a patented way to make them feel the same: to get rid of them. Monument-building is optional. ----------------------- Headers ----------------------- Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics Path: newsbf01.news.aol.com!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!uunet!nih-csl!pruss From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) Message-ID: <1994Sep24.193032.3421@alw.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892 References: <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> <1994Sep22.002042.26759@alw.nih.gov> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 19:30:32 GMT Lines: 9 ......................END FROM N.I.H......................... Deny that you went quietly and sneaked around like the soviet scumbag you are to AOL and falsified headers you scumbag... you never even mentioned going to AOL at all did you? LOYAL HOMO SOVIETICUS OF HONOR , THE SWORD AND THE SHIELD OF THE SOVIET UNION, EH? DID YOU GO TO AOL OR NOT? ANSWER ME AND EVERYONE HERE IN PRINT YOU TREACHEROUS, DECEITFUL, SOVIET!! YES ? NO ? YOU HAVE MY WESTERN COMMAND: SAY IT IN PRINT AND POST IT YOU LYING , STUKACH ! MANY TIMES IN FACT.....quietly you crept....... step by Mongol step.... "no one will find out," you thought.... "I can go do my little talk about being forthright, justice, my soviet honor and pride and no one will ever find out as I slink, slither and skulk about.... step by soviet step....when western eyes are not looking and they are not at all likely to find out with AOLs official policy of not revealing who said what or what they wrote, eh?" Cunning, gutless little Pidor Vorobief.......turd. YOU ARE SOVIET "BYDLO" SCUM ! YOU EVEN INFORMED ON YOUR FRIENDS IN SOVOK BEFORE THE FALL OF EMPIRE, IN THE DAYS WHEN YOU HAD HAIR..... GOD PUNISHED YOU BY MAKING YOUR RATTY SOVIET HAIR FALL OUT ! DIDNT YOU BOAST THAT YOU WOULD GET ME AND EVERY ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-SOVIET, PRO INDEPENDENCE, HUMAN-RIGHTS POSTER , OFF THE NET YOU SNEAKING, TWO-FACED STUKACH SHIT ? HOW COME YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PRO-SOVIET RUSSIAN EXPANSIONISTS, ANTI-SEMITES LIKE DIMITRY PRUSS, VLADIMIR SOROKIN AND OTHER SOVIET LOYALISTS CAN POST AND INDEED FLOOD EAST EUROPEAN SOC.CULTURE GROUPS WITH OFFICIAL RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TASS NEWSPAPER PROPAGANDA REPORTS? THEY ARE EASILY FOUND ELSEWHERE WITHOUT BEING RUBBED IN CERTAIN SOC.CULTURE GROUPS FACES AND MONITORS CONTINUOUSLY... DESPITE MEMBERS PROTESTS THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND THEY DONT WANT RUSSIAN LANGUAGE REPORTS OR TO HEAR ABOUT HOW THEIR NATIONS SHOULD GO BACK TO REJOIN MOTHER RUSSIA OR LEARN, TO BE *VERY CAREFUL* OF NOT OFFENDING RUSSIAN INTERESTS IN THAT REGION..... PIDOR VOROBEEF AND OTHER DIE HARD SOVIETS LOUDLY SAY THEY HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO POST AS "MAKE MONEY FAST" CON ARTISTS DO. THEN THEY CROSS-POST THAT TO SOC.CULTURE SOVIET & RUSSIAN TO BRING IN MORE HORDES..... ITS NOT A QUESTION OF CENSORSHIP, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT ITS INAPPROPRIATE, PERIOD. WHEREVER ANTI- INDEPENDENCE, PRO-SOVIET PROPAGANDA THEY CHOOSE TO PUT ON THE EAST EUROPEAN GROUPS UNDER "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" (USING GOV. COMPUTERS, ON PAID STATE OR FED. SALARY TIME) IS OK, JUST DONT PROTEST THEIR HISTORICAL REVISIONISM OR ANYTHING SOVIET..... NOW PIDOR VOROBIEF WANTS TO "MODERATE" AND CENSOR SOC.CULTURE. SOVIET AND SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN GROUPS..!! FROM UNCLEAN WESTERN INFLUENCES....? WHO DOES HE WORK FOR REALLY ? THE STATE OF OHIO AT: lehigh.edu ? ALEXPLORE From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu! uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!psuvax1!psuvm!bav2 Sun Aug 28 03:11:27 EDT 1994 Article: 68352 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu! uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!psuvax1!psuvm!bav2 Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.soviet Subject: More quotations from Mr. Thurston (Alexplore) Message-ID: <94236.153328BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> From: Boris A. Veytsman Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 15:33:28 EDT References: <94236.144544BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 96 Xref: hulaw1 soc.culture.ukrainian:6621 soc.culture.soviet:68352 Status: RO After I published the previous article, I understood that the quoted author might say something more funny. So I looked other his papers. The result was amazing. Seems that the nice company of Vulis, Fly, Sereda and Serdar has a new member. I personally like him more than them: he seems to be more amusing. Or is it due to the fact he is a new one? Anyway, enjoy. Good luck -Boris PS Anybody wants to use some quotations for sig files? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Looks like another savage fresh from the soviet woods. <...> > I SHALL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU IN VERY SIMPLE >TERMS. > (But come to think of it - didn't I post >something on Soviet Minds and Economics earlier? > Yeah, think I did. Something about the >simplest concepts were beyond them.) > >Didn't the above primitives read them? >Or is something else, an alien, mindset operating again? <...> >Leonov animal - G-e-o-p-l-i-t-c-a-l. You learned that word and are >impressed with it eh? > Follow your own advice - think or whatever >analogous process you substitute for it on the toilet. <...> >The civilized world should foreclose on the whole soviet rathole and run >it. By region. By republic. Teach them. Control them. Make them normal. >Put lithium in the water supply. Send missionaries. Explain Aristotelian >logic. >Recycle 1950s tv deodorant comercials. <...> >I like him ! > >Mr. Voronka: > >Please leave my little soviet alone! > >He is fresh and pure from the soviet woods. > >Yet unspoiled. > >Already I can see that it is starting to become slightly (only slightly >more) civilized as it has more contact with people. > >It's learned that genocide is not good. > >It's time we started to think more and more about preserving native >cultures. > >(Taking people's safety into account of- course.) > >With increasing communications, trade etc.. you can find Ronald McDonald's >empty hamberger boxes by Lenin's tomb! > >I've already heard of former dissident's moaning about the danger to >Russian Civilization and Russian Culture. > >Leave at least one to be pure and natural. > >To be free and at-large at Stony Brook. > >To lope along and graze on the campus, stealing toilet seats and toilet >paper. > >People slightly smiling, politely listening when it emits its strange >cries and noises from all orifices. > >LEAVE THIS ONE ALONE ! PLEASE ! > >You're spoiling it already. > From husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!world! news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!psuvax1!psuvm!bav2 Sun Aug 28 04:14:23 EDT 1994 Article: 68456 of soc.culture.soviet Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.5; site hulaw1.harvard.edu Path: husc-news.harvard.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.umass.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!world! news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!psuvax1!psuvm!bav2 Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: To Mr. Boris A. Veytsman Message-ID: <94237.131342BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> From: Boris A. Veytsman Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 13:13:41 EDT References: <33ig7q$oee@search01.news.aol.com> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 126 Xref: hulaw1 soc.culture.ukrainian:6653 soc.culture.soviet:68456 Status: RO In article <33ig7q$oee@search01.news.aol.com>, alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) says: > > >To Mr. Boris A. Veytsman: > >You have posted a flagrant and blatant lie. > My dear naive friend: First, it's OK to call me Boris. However if you need to be formal, the correct salutation is Dr. Veytsman. Second, they probably did not say you in aol that until posting is expired anyone can read it and check the quotations. Let us check whether I said "a flagrant and blatant lie", OK? I said: BV>Alexplore: BV> BV>1) demanded $500.00 + S&H for providing the BV>exact reference; Here is the quotation from you: >Make it worth my while Mr. Kagalenko. > >Put your money (US dollars only , no fucking rubles) where your soviet >mouth is. > >If what I wrote is not a slanderous lie, YOU give ME, or more accurately >stated, cause to be given me $500 (U.S.) > >Conversely, the same should hold true. > >The money to be held by a neutral WESTERN party. > >A soviet is unacceptable as they will steal it of-course. > >The money is to be Fed - Exed to this agreed upon party. >Certified check- or cash only! > >YOU send the money First! I said further: BV> BV>2) explained that he dislikes bad English BV>accent of Misha's friends Here is another quotation from you: >Have your "attorney" - you are evidently saying you have one, call me at >(207)285-7871. At that point, if I am sufficiently satisfied that it's not >some other soviet buddy of yours with a bad accent, and am real sure that >the person is real, I shall be more then happy to have him speak with my >attorney. I said also: BV> BV>3) made inquiries of the status of Misha's BV>visa BV> OK, here is the quotation: >What is your visa status anyway? Then I said: BV>4) entertained the net-public by other BV>statements that are too numerous to be BV>quoted. BV> Some of these statements I quoted in my other articles. My favorite is: >The civilized world should foreclose on the whole soviet rathole and run >it. By region. By republic. Teach them. Control them. Make them normal. >Put lithium in the water supply. Send missionaries. Explain Aristotelian >logic. >Recycle 1950s tv deodorant comercials. Then I concluded: BV>My congratulations, Alex. It is better BV>than anything posted in scu before. BV> Of course, the last statement is the matter of personal opinion. Some people may think that Mr. Sereda's ad campaign "Buy my software, you son of bitch!!!" is even more entertaining. Tastes differ, you know. However, I prefer your postings - there is some charming naivety in them, you know. So, Mr. Thurston, what qualifies as "a flagrant and blatant lie" in my posting? Would you deign to post your apologies? Or do you want to provide an explanation? Please save your and my time and don't propose me to pay you $500 for an explanation. I don't need an encyclopedia either, my carpets are clean and when I consider switching to other long-distance phone company, I'll do it by mail. Thanks Good luck -Boris From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!cmcl2!rockyd!manin Fri Nov 11 00:17:20 EST 1994 Article: 45072 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!cmcl2!rockyd!manin From: manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu (Dmitrii Manin) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: About "Poor" Prussie Poo Message-ID: In-reply-to: alexplore@aol.com's message of 8 Nov 1994 12:50:16 -0500 Nntp-Posting-Host: sticky.rockefeller.edu References: <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 14:21:28 EST Lines: 42 Status: RO In article <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o They can be very dumb. Brutal, stupid, racist, lying, minipulative, ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39kdhi$6tf@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o Minipulative. You lie. Distort. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39kfd7$9et@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o No, please do not entertain us with your vulgar and vapid, minipulative ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39q97u$n23@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o You wrote a lying, minipulative, THREAT against me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thurston, your inability to learn is only comparable to your command of your beloved American English. The word "manipulative" has nothing to do with miniskirts or minicomputers. It contains the Latin root "manus" -- "hand"... no darling, it has nothing to do with masturbation either. It means someone who managers others, usually in some mean manner and for egotistic purposes. It takes brain to be manipulative. I only can wonder what meaning _you_ had in mind, because your image of stupid and ineffective sovoks doesn't very well fit the idea of manipulation. Are my sentences short enough for you? If not, ask your friend Harry to explain. And this quote, I can't but admire it: ---------- o How heroic you are in your tax supported American job, o and wrapped in a repugnat, blind, hostile chuvanism and ignorance. --------- Chuvanism -- eto ot "chuvak"? -- - M Disclaimer: V sluchae oslableniya khrustyaschikh svoistv Produkt rekomenduetsya podsushit' From fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!panix!not-for-mail Sun Jun 18 20:27:30 EDT 1995 Article: 76086 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!panix!not-for-mail From: pyz@panix.com (Max Pyziur) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: Re: NET/ABUSE: SKURRRRRVY SYN BORYA VEYTSMONGOL FROM SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Date: 17 Jun 1995 23:02:24 -0400 Organization: ElektroLustra-Tetsuo Lines: 49 Message-ID: <3s0500$69s@panix2.panix.com> References: <199506172307.BAA24519@utopia.hacktic.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:76086 soc.culture.russian:8285 soc.culture.ukrainian:16546 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:5456 Status: RO Name withheld by request (anon-remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl) wrote: : BELOVED READERS, GENTLEMEN AND DELICATE LADIES: : AND PAY ATTENTION YOU GODAMN NASTY, STUPID, FILTHY, VIRULENT, INFECTIOUS, : LYING SOVOKS! : (Sonorous cabbage farts, and drunken, loutish sounds are hushed - a few say : "Da -uh !?" - fatty food and bad soviet dental work easily seen.) : THEY (OF SOVOK) ARE MANY, THE GOOD ARE FEW. THE HOARDE OF SOVOK UNION : IMPERIALISTS ARE INDIVIDUALY INFERIOR. LIKE THE HEROIC CHECHENS, WE SHALL : ENDURE UNTIL CLINTON, YELTSIN, AND VEYTSMAN LOSE THEIR FAT ASSES. : BY THE WAY: ABOUT THAT LYING, GUTLESS, STUKACH, PRETENTIOUS SHIT, HACK AND : WANNABEE, WOULDBE, WRITER, PIDER VOROBEEF (HE WROTE NUMEROUS FALSEHOODS, : BEHIND MY BACK -- HE ACTUALLY TOOK PRUSS' ANTI-SEMITIC ARTICLE AND PUT MY : HEADER ON IT AND SENT IT TO AOL 'CAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT : IT WITH AOL'S SECURITY POLICY--- VERY LOW ISN'T IT?? AT LEAST I *POSTED* MY : COMPLAINT ABOUT PRUSS WITH A "CC: POSTMASTER@NIH" FOR _ALL_ TO SEE. BUT I USED : HIS *ENTIRE* POST. I WOULD NEVER SUBSTITUTE HEADERS AND SEND THAT HATE MESSAGE : TO AOL LIKE VOROBIEFF DID TO ME. SO NOW I AM LIKE A CHECHEN - AGAINST THE : HOARDE, CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, DEVIANTS, SOCIALISTS, REVANCHIST SOVOKS AND : OTHER RIFF RAFF. : MY ENEMIES IN LOW PLACES STILL HOLD POWER. : EVEN PRUSS IS STILL WORKING... SORT OF... GOOFING OFF @ NIH FOR $103,000 / : YEAR OF MY TAX MONEY... : 'THOUGH I CAN FINISH HIM OFF WHENEVER AND IF EVER I WANT TO :)) ...... : "BUT THE QUALITY OF MERCY IS NOT STRAINED BUT RATHER FALLETH LIKE THE DEW..." : I AM DOING "TIME IN A BOTTLE....." : FOR NOW :) : BUT I'M COMING BACK. : THE MASKED AVENGER.......(AND RED STALKER) : ALEXPLORE For those who would like to know Alexplore's real identity it's Andrei Khmilewsky. Not sure of the spelling, but he's got a brother and an old lady (that's mother) who live in Livingston NJ. If Alexplore wants to play dirty, we can go T.P. this crib in New Jersey for starters. Then we can figure out what else to do. Max Pyziur pyz@panix.com From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!lard.ftp.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Sun Jun 18 20:28:12 EDT 1995 Article: 76094 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!lard.ftp.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail From: pyz@panix.com (Max Pyziur) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian Subject: Re: NET/ABUSE: SKURRRRRVY SYN BORYA VEYTSMONGOL FROM SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian Date: 18 Jun 1995 01:03:21 -0400 Organization: ElektroLustra-Tetsuo Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3s0c2p$edh@panix2.panix.com> References: <199506172307.BAA24519@utopia.hacktic.nl> <3s0500$69s@panix2.panix.com> <3s0a09$sqt@lynx.dac.neu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:76094 soc.culture.russian:8297 soc.culture.ukrainian:16553 Status: RO Michael Kagalenko (mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu) wrote: : In article <3s0500$69s@panix2.panix.com>, Max Pyziur wrote: : ] : ]For those who would like to know Alexplore's real identity it's Andrei : ]Khmilewsky. Not sure of the spelling, but he's got a brother and an old : ]lady (that's mother) who live in Livingston NJ. : ] : ]If Alexplore wants to play dirty, we can go T.P. this crib in New Jersey : ]for starters. Then we can figure out what else to do. : ] : ]Max Pyziur : ]pyz@panix.com : That's VERY interesting. How did you figure out his identity ? Wha? And give away all my secrets? Trust me; I've got a good source on this one. Oh yeah, it's on East McClellan there in Livingston. And it's Chmilewsky, not Khmilewsky. Sorry on that. îÕ íÉÈÁÊÌÏ. ñËÁ Ô×ÏÑ ÄÕÍËÁ × Ô¦ ÓÐÒÁצ? : -- : Save the Earth - kill a lawyer Some of my best friends are lawyers; I propose a more general category -- charlatans. Max pyz@panix.com From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!cmcl2!rockyd!manin Fri Nov 11 00:17:20 EST 1994 Article: 45072 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!cmcl2!rockyd!manin From: manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu (Dmitrii Manin) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: About "Poor" Prussie Poo Message-ID: In-reply-to: alexplore@aol.com's message of 8 Nov 1994 12:50:16 -0500 Nntp-Posting-Host: sticky.rockefeller.edu References: <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 14:21:28 EST Lines: 42 Status: RO In article <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o They can be very dumb. Brutal, stupid, racist, lying, minipulative, ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39kdhi$6tf@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o Minipulative. You lie. Distort. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39kfd7$9et@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o No, please do not entertain us with your vulgar and vapid, minipulative ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In article <39q97u$n23@newsbf01.news.aol.com> alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: o You wrote a lying, minipulative, THREAT against me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thurston, your inability to learn is only comparable to your command of your beloved American English. The word "manipulative" has nothing to do with miniskirts or minicomputers. It contains the Latin root "manus" -- "hand"... no darling, it has nothing to do with masturbation either. It means someone who managers others, usually in some mean manner and for egotistic purposes. It takes brain to be manipulative. I only can wonder what meaning _you_ had in mind, because your image of stupid and ineffective sovoks doesn't very well fit the idea of manipulation. Are my sentences short enough for you? If not, ask your friend Harry to explain. And this quote, I can't but admire it: ---------- o How heroic you are in your tax supported American job, o and wrapped in a repugnat, blind, hostile chuvanism and ignorance. --------- Chuvanism -- eto ot "chuvak"? -- - M Disclaimer: V sluchae oslableniya khrustyaschikh svoistv Produkt rekomenduetsya podsushit' From syrinx@c2.org Wed Oct 11 06:25:36 EDT 1995 Article: 23646 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!simtel!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!miwok!news.zeitgeist.net!news.c2.org!news.c2.org!not-for-mail From: syrinx@c2.org (Syrinx Anonymous Remailer) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.baltics,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.religion.kibology,alt.usenet.kooks Subject: DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE WICKED SOVOK P - R - U - S - S IS DEAD ! Date: 11 Oct 1995 00:22:30 -0700 Organization: Community ConneXion: http://www.c2.org 510-658-6376 Lines: 599 Message-ID: <45frbm$37@infinity.c2.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.c2.org Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:23646 soc.culture.baltics:14663 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:18288 alt.religion.kibology:81760 alt.usenet.kooks:23218 Status: RO Content-Length: 23458 DEAR FUCKING, FILTHY, LAZY, LYING, THIEVING, STUPID SOVOKS, OF WHATEVER GENDER, BE YE WHORE OR THIEF: HAPPY HALLOWEEN ! THIS IS ONLY A GUEST APPEARANCE BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. CELEBRATE ! CELEBRATE ! DANCE TO THE MUSIC ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE WICKED SOVOK P - R - U- S - S IS DEAD ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE WICKED S-O-V-O-K P - R - U- S - S IS DEAD ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE CHAUVINIST SOVOK REVANCHIST, ANTI-SEMITE IS D-E-A-D ! MORE OF YOU SOVIETS HAVE JUST ARRIVED IN AMERICA... WASHED ASHORE..... LIKE DEAD, STINKING FISH AS IT WERE..... IT IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT FOR A SHIT SOVOK. A GREAT FEAT INDEED. YOU LEFT AND ESCAPED YOUR HORRIBLE, DISGUSTING, FILTHY, PRIMITIVE COMMUNIST SHIT COUNTRIES OF WHICH YOU ARE SO PROUD OF, NOW YOU CAN TELL US HOW MUCH SMARTER YOU ARE THEN US BECAUSE WE LET YOU LEAVE YOUR CESSPOOL COUNTRY AND EVEN WORSE, ALLOW YOU TO COME HERE.... AND YOU HAVE NO GRATITUDE WHATSOEVER FOR YOU ARE IGNORANT, SOCIALIST SCUM THAT HATE EVERYTHING WESTERN AND US FOR HAVING MORE THEN YOU. NATURALLY WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE MORE THEN YOU BECAUSE WE ARE MUCH FINER. HOMO SAPIEN IS SUPERIOR TO HOMO SOVIETICUS BECAUSE WE CAN USE ARISTOTELIAN WESTERN REASONING AND ARE ABLE TO SEE FURTHER BECAUSE WE WERE NOT BRED, TRAINED AND EDUCATED TO WALK AND TALK WITH OUR HEADS UP OUR ASS LIKE A FUCKING SOVOK. SOVIET ANIMALS THAT ARE HERE IN AMERICA ARRIVED BY: * BRIBERY OF AMERICAN CONSULATE OFFICIALS IN SOVOK: (SPECIFICALLY IN KIEV, UKRAINE) -- currently under investigation -- * MARRIAGE TO AMERICANS BY SOVIET WHORE CUNTS THROWING THEIR DIRTY SOVOK MOUTHS ON INNOCENT WESTERN COCKS. * PRETENDING TO WORK IN AMERICA. * PRETENDING TO STUDY IN AMERICA. * COLLECTING WELFARE & FOODSTAMPS AS POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS . LEARN SOMETHING FROM THIS: ALWAYS BOW YOUR HEAD WHEN A WESTERNER WALKS BY, AND ADDRESS HIM/HER AS "BAWANA". REMEMBER, WE ARE WESTERN AND YOU ARE ONLY SOVIET/SOVOK SHIT. GATHER ROUND PRUSS'S STINKING GRAVE FOR ONE LAST CIRCLE JERK. EAT BORSH AND DIE AND NOW, FOR YOU SAVAGES FRESH FROM THE JUNGLE, MORE ABOUT THAT SOVOK AT NIH (National Institute of Health) WHO DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED HIS WESTERN SUPERIORS....... Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.soviet Subject: Please don't use sci and scj to "report antisemitism". Message-ID: <1994Sep26.160419.5975@alw.nih.gov> From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:04:19 GMT Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) References: <1994Sep24.193032.3421@alw.nih.gov> Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892 Lines: 107 In soc.culture.israel, otto@kgs.twi.tudelft.nl (Otto de Voogd) forwarded a quote from my soc.culture.baltics post with a following comment : >>Well you know if you ask 3 Jews a question, you'll end up with 4 opinions, >>at least 3 of them being diametrally opposite. If that makes you >>uncomfortable, then there's a patented way to make them feel the same: to >>get rid of them. Monument-building is optional. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Now you've really done it! You're living in the US right? I hope they will >fry you for this! If there is one thing I can't stand in this world and for >which I have ZERO TOLERANCE it's a fucking Anti-Semetic Neo-Nazi! Hi Otto, I've replied to your personal mail already. What I didn't know is that you not only posted it to scb, but also sent a separate copy to soc.culture.israel. Please be advised that joking about the Holocaust is _not_ recommended in s.c.i. Your inconsiderate forwarding costed people there a lot of lost time and nervous energy, since your technique of quoting out of context worked just fine to make them feel awfull. Your apologies will be accepted. I also apologize for the bitter feelings I inadverently woke up. For anyone interested in seeng the quote in the real context of the discussion, a few excerpts follow: I should note that in s.c.baltics (where I wrote it) a lot of irony goes unmarked, particularly between the friends-opponents who've known one another for years (as it is the case with me and Gustav Akk). Earlier in the thread (which started from Otto's flamebait "the Russians should learn from the Germans - the latter were deported from Holland in '45 and when they come as tourists these days, they don't dare to speak German" (not an exact quote, don't sue me), and went ahead to discuss deportees, returnees and refugees), I quoted an article from the Wash Post about continuing resentment among some of Estonian Jews _despite_ all positive developments: -----------begin quote Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) Message-ID: <1994Sep22.002042.26759@alw.nih.gov> References: <35msvc$6kh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Sep21.152039.19148@alw.nih.gov> <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 00:20:42 GMT In article <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> axmerilo@ualr.edu writes: > pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) writes: [big deletion] >And finally, you are trying to imply that there is a significant exodus >of people from Estonia to Israel Yeah, it already came to me that I should have written about all 3 countries here, since Jewish emigration originates mostly in Latvia and Lithuania. Yet there's a resentment among the little Estonian Jewish community too - I can refer you to the article in the Wash Post earlier this month about 8/31 opening a memorial on the site of 1944' massacre of (W European) Jews near Tallin. Basically it mentioned the older-generation Jews who thought that the govt. uses them as trading chips and makes them to change their language - from Russian to Hebrew and Estonian - in their old age. Why is it so, a retiree stated, that we have to laern Hebrew to be respected? If we have to do it anyway, wouldn't it be easier to do it in Israel? Didn't our long life, full of honest work, earned us a right to be what we are? -------end quote (Note that I didn't comment the paper). Gustav replied along the line "what a funny people you're, when you're killed you're unhappy and when monuments are erected in your honor you're unhappy too" - this also might be perceived as an bad antisemititic joke, but I knew Gustav too well to overreact. ---------begin quote Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics From: akk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gustav Akk) Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) Message-ID: References: <35msvc$6kh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Sep21.152039.19148@alw.nih.gov> <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> <1994Sep22.002042.26759@alw.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:22:48 GMT dmitry pruss wrote: > >Yet there's a resentment among the little Estonian Jewish >community too - I can refer you to the article in the Wash Post earlier >this month about 8/31 opening a memorial on the site of 1944' massacre of Or in other words: if one massacres Jews he is not right, and if one builds them a monument - he is not right either. Makes you wonder what do they want.... Gustav ----------- end quote To that I wanted to answer that one cannot make all the Jews happy with one action along one line - that there always is a spectrum of contradicting opinions among us the Jews, at least as long as one doesn't ask our opinion about massacres. Alas, this part didn't look nice out of context - and that was how Otto used it in his s.c.i. "report". And last note, personally to Otto: I gave you the address of my Director to write a complaint. Please check the ZIP code - it should be 20892 (I could have mistakedly typed the ZIP code of my home...) Shalom, D "some tolerance never harms... but it doesn't come without brains" From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Message-ID: <39mip2$n9@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: 8 Nov 1994 01:03:30 GMT References: <1994Nov6.212221.373@vms.huji.ac.il> Distribution: world Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: coolidge.harvard.edu In article <1994Nov6.212221.373@vms.huji.ac.il> vadims@vms.huji.ac.il writes: >Any news about Pruss? >has he preserved his job? yes >has he had his account restored? No. I think that whole NIH (National Institute of Health - Bawana editor's note) lost access to Usenet due to Vulis and Alexplore. >is he alive? of sorts >where is he? It seems that he won't be posting anymore. He does not tell under what conditions he retained his job, but it seems (a guesswork) that the secrecy of these conditions is one of these conditions. The prohibition to use Usenet (even independent/commercial providers, that he used to use before his settlement with NIH) is a plausible reason for his silence, though one cannot tell for sure (at least, Pruss refused to tell). By the way, thanks a lot for your Israeli army posting, I think it was one of the best posts on this newsgroup ever. Misha. Subject: Re: New account / address From: sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu (Alexander Rylyakov) Date: 04 Oct 1994 13:15:51 GMT Message-ID: >>> "ZM" == Zak May writes: ZM> Somebody finally squealed on me to umbc - and I lost the account What kind of a group is this ? All the time we see unfriendly forgeries ( a thing unheard of in 99% of the Usenet), we see people literally shitting on each other and then discussing that at length and starting petty "investigations" which are very likely to wind up being even dirtier than the crime itself. Most of the postings are devoted to the scummiest and stupidest topic possible: which ethnicity is the best and reasons why it will eventually dominate all other ethnicities. In a word, this group fully deserves its name: "soviet is as soviet does". From: vadims@vms.huji.ac.il Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: About "Poor" Prussie Poo Message-ID: <1994Nov13.085832.424@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 13 Nov 94 08:58:32 GMT References: <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Distribution: world Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Lines: 15 Alexplore, filthy whore! You're a bastard, you pleased your inferiority with humiliating a decent, thinking and intellectually honest guy. And you call me "SOVOK"! Yes, I'm sovok, I do not consider it to be shame. I lived in that country, I'm brought up in that system. I had always been loyal to the system and played according to the rules. What you did to Pruss is considered low in any system of values. In the soviet camps the "stukach" like you would have been drowned in the shitbucket. In the Soviet Army - beaten up to ... In the civilized world - disgusted by anyone able to ditinguish one's own mother from tax inspector. Go fuck yourself. Enjoy your sovok-free SCS. I'm out. Vadim P.S.: pls, don't forget to write to my bosses. From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Sorokin and CBI Message-ID: <3b3fci$65u@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: 25 Nov 1994 01:41:38 GMT References: <3arsp6$1ing@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3aslte$jjh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: coolidge.harvard.edu In article fisch@netcom.com (Vlad Rutenburg) writes: >alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: >>Sovokin is to soviet to like objective truth. >This is totally bizzare. This group is full of recent immigrants to USA >who are just learning English. And still, the one and only regular >"native American" poster to SCS (our beloved Alexplore) seems to have >the most trouble with the English language. Can anybody explain to me what >the above sentence means please? Plore's posts achieve only one thing - he enforces the deep-rooted prejudice of most x-Soviet folks that the next door American is stupid, uneducated, lazy slob, in all respect inferior to x-Soviets. This was fun when he started, because he served as a living argument in all pro-US vs anti-US flamewars. Now everybody seems convicted that Americans are inferior, and Plore is no more needed. Plore outlived its usefullness as educating tool in scs interior flamewars - hence I retract my praise to Plore which he used to repost once in a while. I mean, it is good when you understand what is wrong about US (the major problem is that there are a lot of people like Plore - uneducated, stupid, lazy, "patriotic" gun-toting rednecks, and under democracy these subhuman individuals don't learn how to shut up properly). When this understanding is being driven in your guts repeatedly for almost a year it starts to be irritating. Misha. P. S. Plore meant to say, "Sorokin is too Soviet to like objective truth". We think that in view of the impending end there is very little hope for any of you. It is suggested that in view of this approaching situation, that all of you start considering the methods of survival and victory over those who threaten you. If you love, love selectively or not at all. Are those recipients of your affection worthy of it? Are they using you? Are they your crutch? That which is falling should also be pushed. That which is crawling should also be crushed. There is no hiding from the blackbird... Which side are you on? It doesn't matter if they're big or small. There is only one answer - kill them all. -- David Tibet Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Cite-istics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 17:59:36 EST Lines: 75 Nntp-Posting-Host: sticky.rockefeller.edu Lo and behold, oh brethren and sestren, sovoks and emigrees from Odessa Privoz! I nominate Alex Thurston "The Member of SCS" for an extraordinary achievement. He is the first non-Russian-speaker who ever made it to the List of Lists. Of course it was me without whose followups he couldn't have possibly dreamed of it, but what the hell -- he did it. I virtually present Alexplore the full-size (1 inch or something) obelisk with the above-mentioned honorable title engraved on it. Cutie. *Smack*. Now to the routine. TOTALS: articles 586, quotes 426, authors 231 ... From: verbit@coxeter.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.baltics Subject: Re: Good Russian is dead an buried one. Date: 24 Jan 1995 18:12:02 GMT Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3g3fti$ig9@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <3err5d$64q@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> <790734525snz@strateg1.demon.co.uk> <3g0ekk$ivo@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: coxeter.harvard.edu In article <3g0ekk$ivo@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> ryyti@tukki.cc.jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes: >What is striking when I read about the deportations of Chechens,Finns, >Ingrians,Estonians etc. to the concentration camps in Russia there >is seldom mentioned who actually carried out it in the practise. >The Russians only refer to: "Stalin", allthought Stalin himself >did not bring a single person personally to any labor-camp. It is a pity that these people were deported. I mean, it is a pity because they deserved to be tortured and then killed on spot. Finns are subhuman and deporting them is a fair game, but to do the job right you should torture them first, then kill. I would pay a fairly decent sum (like, $10... wait, $15) if someone tortures and kills Ryyti. Misha. A Treasurer of the Society for Bombing Helsinki. (L. Shilkrot - Chairman). Vote Zhirinovsky '99 From: pv02@navier.me.lehigh.edu (Peter Vorobieff) Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,misc.immigration.usa,sci.research.careers,sci.math,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.bigfoot,alt.usenet.kooks Subject: Re: DON'T HIRE ANY LYING SOVOKS! HIRE AMERICANS! (SOVOKS=ANTI-SEMITES) Followup-To: misc.misc,alt.usenet.kooks Date: 2 Jun 1995 06:51:29 GMT Organization: The Pit of Shoggoths Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3qmcdh$g7e@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> References: <199505310337.FAA22994@utopia.hacktic.nl> <3qkome$rv9@jac.zko.dec.com> Reply-To: pv02@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.me.lehigh.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11 In article <3qkome$rv9@jac.zko.dec.com>, goykhman spake thusly: > >Name withheld by request wrote: > >>SOVOKS HATE ALL RELIGIONS. SOVOKS OF JEWISH OR RUSSIAN EXTRACTION SHOT RABBIS >>AND POPES, BURNED TORAH SCROLLS AND ICONS, RAZED CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES WITH >>THE SAME SOCIALIST ENTHUSIAM. BUT THEY ARE NO MORE JEWISH THAN ADOLF HITLER. > > Vulis, is that you again? For Dimitri "the vulis" Vulis, this may be too primitive. The style is highly suggestive of another net.loon, known as Alexplore or Alex Thurston. The discovery of the similarity is not mine own - another netter pointed me to it. Let me warn everybody that, provided that the guess is right, ones who flame the creature are likely to be asked funny questions, as the creep writes weird snail mail to the bosses of the people who piss him|her|it off in cyberspace. -- Thus spake Kalmoth the Vile, Slayer of One Robot and Seven Pigs. DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed in the article above, if any, are channeled from the Fungi of Yuggoth and do not necessarily represent the views of my other employers. From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Infectious(moral masturbation). Message-ID: <3a28mh$gh9@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Date: 12 Nov 1994 06:25:05 -0500 References: Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 142 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article , maxim@jove.acs.unt.edu (Telish Maxim) writes: Subject: Infectious(moral masturbation). From: maxim@jove.acs.unt.edu (Telish Maxim) Date: 11 Nov 94 19:22:41 GMT Message-ID: How many times it was said that "Moral Masturbation" is not good for your precious health. So, does anybody listen to that? Yeh, sure, forget about it! Sovok is not just a virus or infection, it's a state of the mind. Can it be cured? Don't ask me because you already knew the answer. Unfortunately, Sovok turns to be more obvious when people with this virus cross the border of a country which once was called Sovdep. Who are those people who cross the border of that mysterious country? Let's not talk about legal immigrants. It's a different story. Let's talk about students, the students who are infected with this decease called Sovok. How one can grasp the sick one among healthy people? Oh, it's not that hard as one might think. First of all, the infected person strongly believe that he's no more or less than a GENIUS. O.k. there's no problem with that, but this person has to prove everybody that he's genius. Methods? The methods are different. It depends on the strength of the virus. Some of them would show one the level of their intellectual abilities, others would show one that they just have a different amount of information, so there's no talking about, and so on. What does make them think that way? All right, when they lived in Sovdep their problem wouldn't be noticeable because they would be surrounded by Sovkami, so if one Sovok would say something others would "execute" him physically ,or mentally, or whatever because Sovok is very aggressive . There are not too many Sovkov, here in the States, so they feel very comfortable, especially, among American students with their lack of education. The most dangerous Sovok is smart Sovok, he would fuck one's brain very professionally and painfully. My point is what's the priority in the modern medicine? To find a cure against of HIV or Sovka? I'd really appreciate anybody's opinion! Thank you a lot, my brothers & sisters, for your precious time spent reading my message. Thank you one more time. Maxx end Maxx ......................................................................begin alexplore : Hmm....... you've noticed have you? :) It's a mindset. (Being a sovok that is.) I tend to disagree that they are "smart". They may, at most, possess certain narrow data processing skills, but that's it. Look at the soviet "logic" displayed by them. The blatant lies, they seek to pass off as a great TRUTH. Have you noticed the deviousness, THE BIG LIE approach? It's inculcated in them. in7cul7cate (9n-k>l k3t , 9n k>l-) tr.v. in7cul7cat7ed, in7cul7cat7ing, in7cul7cates. 1. To impress (something) upon the mind of another by frequent instruction or repetition; instill: inculcating sound principles. 2. To teach (others) by frequent instruction or repetition; indoctrinate: inculcate the young with a sense of duty. [Latin inculc3re, inculc3t-, to force upon : in-, on; see IN-2 + calc3re, to trample (from calx, calc-, heel).] --in cul7ca tion n. --in7cul ca tor n. The cure?????? Hit 'em in their insecurity? Tried logic, figured that's too complex (for them), thought is far to difficult for them to digest so...... short sentences and sentence fragments....... Possible cure is to hold them by the throat for a generation or two..... Feed them hamburgers, coke and thorazine until then. A.T. PS Other anti-psychotics may be effective. BTW - a US pharmaceutical co. ,seriously proposed that Western medicine (like the kind for people:) may not be effective on them because of their conditions, environment and their adaptation to the aforementioned. I am deadly serious about that! Incredible isn't it? I laughed like hell, when I saw the report, but .....think about THAT one. Scary.....plus you had a certain genetic selection going on as well - Homo Sovieticus. whereby the decent people were killed, Homo Sapien, and the scum encouraged and survived to breed, i.e., Rottenbergers, Pidor Whorebreaths, Borya Veytsmongols and V.Sovokins, Dimitri Pruss..... Clear examples - all, of the kind of scum you'll find washing up ashore from Sovok. At the same time, the better genetic strains of Homo Sapiens were being killed: "Kulaks", westernizers, "engineer's plot", genocide of Ukraine's best, wholesale deportations of entire nationalities, Crimean Tartars, Cheechens. Russia's Tambov peasant revolt, etc.... Thus, Stalinist cocksuckers and their shit progeny like the above named assholes and soc.culture.soviet criminals made it. A "natural selection" in reverse. Though some of the killers were themselves killed for not being shitty enough! That's why some of the above named will have an excuse (lie) to possibly protest this, and cite members of their own rat-like family members killed, though the real rationale is inherently false and flawed. The proof of their lying vector of approach is their own thinking and logic. Sad isn't it? THEY LIVE. BUT NOT FOR LONG. TIME TO DIE. From syrinx@c2.org Sun Oct 15 06:53:41 EDT 1995 Article: 23888 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.c2.org!news.c2.org!not-for-mail From: syrinx@c2.org (Syrinx Anonymous Remailer) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: DING ! DONG ! DING ! DONG ! THE WICKED SOVOK P - R - U - S - S IS DEAD ! Date: 12 Oct 1995 20:13:00 -0700 Organization: Community ConneXion: http://www.c2.org 510-658-6376 Lines: 625 Message-ID: <45klfs$7sj@infinity.c2.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.c2.org Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:23888 soc.culture.baltics:14691 soc.culture.ukrainian:19923 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:18607 alt.usenet.kooks:23269 Status: RO Content-Length: 24586 DEAR FUCKING, FILTHY, LAZY, LYING, THIEVING, STUPID SOVOKS, OF WHATEVER GENDER, BE YE WHORE OR THIEF: HAPPY HALLOWEEN ! THIS IS ONLY A GUEST APPEARANCE BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. CELEBRATE ! CELEBRATE ! DANCE TO THE MUSIC ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE WICKED SOVOK P - R - U- S - S IS DEAD ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE WICKED S-O-V-O-K P - R - U- S - S IS DEAD ! DING ! DONG ! DING ! THE CHAUVINIST SOVOK REVANCHIST, ANTI-SEMITE IS D-E-A-D ! MORE OF YOU SOVIETS HAVE JUST ARRIVED IN AMERICA... WASHED ASHORE..... LIKE DEAD, STINKING FISH AS IT WERE..... IT IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT FOR A SHIT SOVOK. A GREAT FEAT INDEED. YOU LEFT AND ESCAPED YOUR HORRIBLE, DISGUSTING, FILTHY, PRIMITIVE COMMUNIST SHIT COUNTRIES OF WHICH YOU ARE SO PROUD OF, NOW YOU CAN TELL US HOW MUCH SMARTER YOU ARE THEN US BECAUSE WE LET YOU LEAVE YOUR CESSPOOL COUNTRY AND EVEN WORSE, ALLOW YOU TO COME HERE.... AND YOU HAVE NO GRATITUDE WHATSOEVER FOR YOU ARE IGNORANT, SOCIALIST SCUM THAT HATE EVERYTHING WESTERN AND US FOR HAVING MORE THEN YOU. NATURALLY WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE MORE THEN YOU BECAUSE WE ARE MUCH FINER. HOMO SAPIEN IS SUPERIOR TO HOMO SOVIETICUS BECAUSE WE CAN USE ARISTOTELIAN WESTERN REASONING AND ARE ABLE TO SEE FURTHER BECAUSE WE WERE NOT BRED, TRAINED AND EDUCATED TO WALK AND TALK WITH OUR HEADS UP OUR ASS LIKE A FUCKING SOVOK. SOVIET ANIMALS THAT ARE HERE IN AMERICA ARRIVED BY: * BRIBERY OF AMERICAN CONSULATE OFFICIALS IN SOVOK: (SPECIFICALLY IN KIEV, UKRAINE) -- currently under investigation -- * MARRIAGE TO AMERICANS BY SOVIET WHORE CUNTS THROWING THEIR DIRTY SOVOK MOUTHS ON INNOCENT WESTERN COCKS. * PRETENDING TO WORK IN AMERICA. * PRETENDING TO STUDY IN AMERICA. * COLLECTING WELFARE & FOODSTAMPS AS POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS . LEARN SOMETHING FROM THIS: ALWAYS BOW YOUR HEAD WHEN A WESTERNER WALKS BY, AND ADDRESS HIM/HER AS "BAWANA". REMEMBER, WE ARE WESTERN AND YOU ARE ONLY SOVIET/SOVOK SHIT. GATHER ROUND PRUSS'S STINKING GRAVE FOR ONE LAST CIRCLE JERK. EAT BORSH AND DIE AND NOW, FOR YOU SAVAGES FRESH FROM THE JUNGLE, MORE ABOUT THAT SOVOK AT NIH (National Institute of Health) WHO DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED HIS WESTERN SUPERIORS....... Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.soviet Subject: Please don't use sci and scj to "report antisemitism". Message-ID: <1994Sep26.160419.5975@alw.nih.gov> From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:04:19 GMT Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) References: <1994Sep24.193032.3421@alw.nih.gov> Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892 Lines: 107 In soc.culture.israel, otto@kgs.twi.tudelft.nl (Otto de Voogd) forwarded a quote from my soc.culture.baltics post with a following comment : >>Well you know if you ask 3 Jews a question, you'll end up with 4 opinions, >>at least 3 of them being diametrally opposite. If that makes you >>uncomfortable, then there's a patented way to make them feel the same: to >>get rid of them. Monument-building is optional. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Now you've really done it! You're living in the US right? I hope they will >fry you for this! If there is one thing I can't stand in this world and for >which I have ZERO TOLERANCE it's a fucking Anti-Semetic Neo-Nazi! Hi Otto, I've replied to your personal mail already. What I didn't know is that you not only posted it to scb, but also sent a separate copy to soc.culture.israel. Please be advised that joking about the Holocaust is _not_ recommended in s.c.i. Your inconsiderate forwarding costed people there a lot of lost time and nervous energy, since your technique of quoting out of context worked just fine to make them feel awfull. Your apologies will be accepted. I also apologize for the bitter feelings I inadverently woke up. For anyone interested in seeng the quote in the real context of the discussion, a few excerpts follow: I should note that in s.c.baltics (where I wrote it) a lot of irony goes unmarked, particularly between the friends-opponents who've known one another for years (as it is the case with me and Gustav Akk). Earlier in the thread (which started from Otto's flamebait "the Russians should learn from the Germans - the latter were deported from Holland in '45 and when they come as tourists these days, they don't dare to speak German" (not an exact quote, don't sue me), and went ahead to discuss deportees, returnees and refugees), I quoted an article from the Wash Post about continuing resentment among some of Estonian Jews _despite_ all positive developments: -----------begin quote Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) Message-ID: <1994Sep22.002042.26759@alw.nih.gov> References: <35msvc$6kh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Sep21.152039.19148@alw.nih.gov> <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 00:20:42 GMT In article <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> axmerilo@ualr.edu writes: > pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss) writes: [big deletion] >And finally, you are trying to imply that there is a significant exodus >of people from Estonia to Israel Yeah, it already came to me that I should have written about all 3 countries here, since Jewish emigration originates mostly in Latvia and Lithuania. Yet there's a resentment among the little Estonian Jewish community too - I can refer you to the article in the Wash Post earlier this month about 8/31 opening a memorial on the site of 1944' massacre of (W European) Jews near Tallin. Basically it mentioned the older-generation Jews who thought that the govt. uses them as trading chips and makes them to change their language - from Russian to Hebrew and Estonian - in their old age. Why is it so, a retiree stated, that we have to laern Hebrew to be respected? If we have to do it anyway, wouldn't it be easier to do it in Israel? Didn't our long life, full of honest work, earned us a right to be what we are? -------end quote (Note that I didn't comment the paper). Gustav replied along the line "what a funny people you're, when you're killed you're unhappy and when monuments are erected in your honor you're unhappy too" - this also might be perceived as an bad antisemititic joke, but I knew Gustav too well to overreact. ---------begin quote Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics From: akk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gustav Akk) Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and Petseri/Petshory) Message-ID: References: <35msvc$6kh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1994Sep21.152039.19148@alw.nih.gov> <1994Sep21.140611.1@ualr.edu> <1994Sep22.002042.26759@alw.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:22:48 GMT dmitry pruss wrote: > >Yet there's a resentment among the little Estonian Jewish >community too - I can refer you to the article in the Wash Post earlier >this month about 8/31 opening a memorial on the site of 1944' massacre of Or in other words: if one massacres Jews he is not right, and if one builds them a monument - he is not right either. Makes you wonder what do they want.... Gustav ----------- end quote To that I wanted to answer that one cannot make all the Jews happy with one action along one line - that there always is a spectrum of contradicting opinions among us the Jews, at least as long as one doesn't ask our opinion about massacres. Alas, this part didn't look nice out of context - and that was how Otto used it in his s.c.i. "report". And last note, personally to Otto: I gave you the address of my Director to write a complaint. Please check the ZIP code - it should be 20892 (I could have mistakedly typed the ZIP code of my home...) Shalom, D "some tolerance never harms... but it doesn't come without brains" From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Message-ID: <39mip2$n9@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: 8 Nov 1994 01:03:30 GMT References: <1994Nov6.212221.373@vms.huji.ac.il> Distribution: world Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: coolidge.harvard.edu In article <1994Nov6.212221.373@vms.huji.ac.il> vadims@vms.huji.ac.il writes: >Any news about Pruss? >has he preserved his job? yes >has he had his account restored? No. I think that whole NIH (National Institute of Health - Bawana editor's note) lost access to Usenet due to Vulis and Alexplore. >is he alive? of sorts >where is he? It seems that he won't be posting anymore. He does not tell under what conditions he retained his job, but it seems (a guesswork) that the secrecy of these conditions is one of these conditions. The prohibition to use Usenet (even independent/commercial providers, that he used to use before his settlement with NIH) is a plausible reason for his silence, though one cannot tell for sure (at least, Pruss refused to tell). By the way, thanks a lot for your Israeli army posting, I think it was one of the best posts on this newsgroup ever. Misha. From: verbit@abel.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: eshe o kljauzah i stuke Date: 22 Aug 1995 05:01:40 GMT Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Message-ID: <41bobk$a1b@decaxp.harvard.edu> Actually the vilest prank (one with worst real-life consequences) was performed by Vulis and Alexplore against Dima Pruss. They posted in 100+ groups a letter accusing Pruss (a Jew) in anti-Semitism, Holocaust revisionism, Commie sympathies and sucking off the goverment funds. The letter ended with appeal to write Pruss's bosses at National Institute of Health. Pruss's bosses received tons of email from aolers and almost fired Pruss (NIH being a bureaucratic institution which is extremely careful about its reputation). They did not want to fire Pruss, so they wrote the insident off under the pretext of Pruss suffering with psychosis and anxiety caused by the downfall of Sovok. Among other humiliating sanctions, Pruss was prohibited from writing to Usenet anymore (which he rejoices, now, and I not - he was among the best posters ever). Subject: Re: New account / address From: sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu (Alexander Rylyakov) Date: 04 Oct 1994 13:15:51 GMT Message-ID: >>> "ZM" == Zak May writes: ZM> Somebody finally squealed on me to umbc - and I lost the account What kind of a group is this ? All the time we see unfriendly forgeries ( a thing unheard of in 99% of the Usenet), we see people literally shitting on each other and then discussing that at length and starting petty "investigations" which are very likely to wind up being even dirtier than the crime itself. Most of the postings are devoted to the scummiest and stupidest topic possible: which ethnicity is the best and reasons why it will eventually dominate all other ethnicities. In a word, this group fully deserves its name: "soviet is as soviet does". From: vadims@vms.huji.ac.il Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: About "Poor" Prussie Poo Message-ID: <1994Nov13.085832.424@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 13 Nov 94 08:58:32 GMT References: <39odoo$afv@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Distribution: world Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem Lines: 15 Alexplore, filthy whore! You're a bastard, you pleased your inferiority with humiliating a decent, thinking and intellectually honest guy. And you call me "SOVOK"! Yes, I'm sovok, I do not consider it to be shame. I lived in that country, I'm brought up in that system. I had always been loyal to the system and played according to the rules. What you did to Pruss is considered low in any system of values. In the soviet camps the "stukach" like you would have been drowned in the shitbucket. In the Soviet Army - beaten up to ... In the civilized world - disgusted by anyone able to ditinguish one's own mother from tax inspector. Go fuck yourself. Enjoy your sovok-free SCS. I'm out. Vadim P.S.: pls, don't forget to write to my bosses. From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Sorokin and CBI Message-ID: <3b3fci$65u@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: 25 Nov 1994 01:41:38 GMT References: <3arsp6$1ing@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3aslte$jjh@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: coolidge.harvard.edu In article fisch@netcom.com (Vlad Rutenburg) writes: >alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) writes: >>Sovokin is to soviet to like objective truth. >This is totally bizzare. This group is full of recent immigrants to USA >who are just learning English. And still, the one and only regular >"native American" poster to SCS (our beloved Alexplore) seems to have >the most trouble with the English language. Can anybody explain to me what >the above sentence means please? Plore's posts achieve only one thing - he enforces the deep-rooted prejudice of most x-Soviet folks that the next door American is stupid, uneducated, lazy slob, in all respect inferior to x-Soviets. This was fun when he started, because he served as a living argument in all pro-US vs anti-US flamewars. Now everybody seems convicted that Americans are inferior, and Plore is no more needed. Plore outlived its usefullness as educating tool in scs interior flamewars - hence I retract my praise to Plore which he used to repost once in a while. I mean, it is good when you understand what is wrong about US (the major problem is that there are a lot of people like Plore - uneducated, stupid, lazy, "patriotic" gun-toting rednecks, and under democracy these subhuman individuals don't learn how to shut up properly). When this understanding is being driven in your guts repeatedly for almost a year it starts to be irritating. Misha. P. S. Plore meant to say, "Sorokin is too Soviet to like objective truth". We think that in view of the impending end there is very little hope for any of you. It is suggested that in view of this approaching situation, that all of you start considering the methods of survival and victory over those who threaten you. If you love, love selectively or not at all. Are those recipients of your affection worthy of it? Are they using you? Are they your crutch? That which is falling should also be pushed. That which is crawling should also be crushed. There is no hiding from the blackbird... Which side are you on? It doesn't matter if they're big or small. There is only one answer - kill them all. -- David Tibet Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Cite-istics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 17:59:36 EST Lines: 75 Nntp-Posting-Host: sticky.rockefeller.edu Lo and behold, oh brethren and sestren, sovoks and emigrees from Odessa Privoz! I nominate Alex Thurston "The Member of SCS" for an extraordinary achievement. He is the first non-Russian-speaker who ever made it to the List of Lists. Of course it was me without whose followups he couldn't have possibly dreamed of it, but what the hell -- he did it. I virtually present Alexplore the full-size (1 inch or something) obelisk with the above-mentioned honorable title engraved on it. Cutie. *Smack*. Now to the routine. TOTALS: articles 586, quotes 426, authors 231 ... From: verbit@coxeter.harvard.edu (Misha Verbitsky) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.baltics Subject: Re: Good Russian is dead an buried one. Date: 24 Jan 1995 18:12:02 GMT Organization: Sozialistisches Patienten Kollektiv Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3g3fti$ig9@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <3err5d$64q@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> <790734525snz@strateg1.demon.co.uk> <3g0ekk$ivo@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: coxeter.harvard.edu In article <3g0ekk$ivo@tukki.cc.jyu.fi> ryyti@tukki.cc.jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes: >What is striking when I read about the deportations of Chechens,Finns, >Ingrians,Estonians etc. to the concentration camps in Russia there >is seldom mentioned who actually carried out it in the practise. >The Russians only refer to: "Stalin", allthought Stalin himself >did not bring a single person personally to any labor-camp. It is a pity that these people were deported. I mean, it is a pity because they deserved to be tortured and then killed on spot. Finns are subhuman and deporting them is a fair game, but to do the job right you should torture them first, then kill. I would pay a fairly decent sum (like, $10... wait, $15) if someone tortures and kills Ryyti. Misha. A Treasurer of the Society for Bombing Helsinki. (L. Shilkrot - Chairman). Vote Zhirinovsky '99 From: pv02@navier.me.lehigh.edu (Peter Vorobieff) Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,misc.immigration.usa,sci.research.careers,sci.math,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.bigfoot,alt.usenet.kooks Subject: Re: DON'T HIRE ANY LYING SOVOKS! HIRE AMERICANS! (SOVOKS=ANTI-SEMITES) Followup-To: misc.misc,alt.usenet.kooks Date: 2 Jun 1995 06:51:29 GMT Organization: The Pit of Shoggoths Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3qmcdh$g7e@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> References: <199505310337.FAA22994@utopia.hacktic.nl> <3qkome$rv9@jac.zko.dec.com> Reply-To: pv02@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.me.lehigh.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11 In article <3qkome$rv9@jac.zko.dec.com>, goykhman spake thusly: > >Name withheld by request wrote: > >>SOVOKS HATE ALL RELIGIONS. SOVOKS OF JEWISH OR RUSSIAN EXTRACTION SHOT RABBIS >>AND POPES, BURNED TORAH SCROLLS AND ICONS, RAZED CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES WITH >>THE SAME SOCIALIST ENTHUSIAM. BUT THEY ARE NO MORE JEWISH THAN ADOLF HITLER. > > Vulis, is that you again? For Dimitri "the vulis" Vulis, this may be too primitive. The style is highly suggestive of another net.loon, known as Alexplore or Alex Thurston. The discovery of the similarity is not mine own - another netter pointed me to it. Let me warn everybody that, provided that the guess is right, ones who flame the creature are likely to be asked funny questions, as the creep writes weird snail mail to the bosses of the people who piss him|her|it off in cyberspace. -- Thus spake Kalmoth the Vile, Slayer of One Robot and Seven Pigs. DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed in the article above, if any, are channeled from the Fungi of Yuggoth and do not necessarily represent the views of my other employers. From: alexplore@aol.com (Alexplore) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet Subject: Re: Infectious(moral masturbation). Message-ID: <3a28mh$gh9@newsbf01.news.aol.com> Date: 12 Nov 1994 06:25:05 -0500 References: Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 142 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com In article , maxim@jove.acs.unt.edu (Telish Maxim) writes: Subject: Infectious(moral masturbation). From: maxim@jove.acs.unt.edu (Telish Maxim) Date: 11 Nov 94 19:22:41 GMT Message-ID: How many times it was said that "Moral Masturbation" is not good for your precious health. So, does anybody listen to that? Yeh, sure, forget about it! Sovok is not just a virus or infection, it's a state of the mind. Can it be cured? Don't ask me because you already knew the answer. Unfortunately, Sovok turns to be more obvious when people with this virus cross the border of a country which once was called Sovdep. Who are those people who cross the border of that mysterious country? Let's not talk about legal immigrants. It's a different story. Let's talk about students, the students who are infected with this decease called Sovok. How one can grasp the sick one among healthy people? Oh, it's not that hard as one might think. First of all, the infected person strongly believe that he's no more or less than a GENIUS. O.k. there's no problem with that, but this person has to prove everybody that he's genius. Methods? The methods are different. It depends on the strength of the virus. Some of them would show one the level of their intellectual abilities, others would show one that they just have a different amount of information, so there's no talking about, and so on. What does make them think that way? All right, when they lived in Sovdep their problem wouldn't be noticeable because they would be surrounded by Sovkami, so if one Sovok would say something others would "execute" him physically ,or mentally, or whatever because Sovok is very aggressive . There are not too many Sovkov, here in the States, so they feel very comfortable, especially, among American students with their lack of education. The most dangerous Sovok is smart Sovok, he would fuck one's brain very professionally and painfully. My point is what's the priority in the modern medicine? To find a cure against of HIV or Sovka? I'd really appreciate anybody's opinion! Thank you a lot, my brothers & sisters, for your precious time spent reading my message. Thank you one more time. Maxx end Maxx ......................................................................begin alexplore : Hmm....... you've noticed have you? :) It's a mindset. (Being a sovok that is.) I tend to disagree that they are "smart". They may, at most, possess certain narrow data processing skills, but that's it. Look at the soviet "logic" displayed by them. The blatant lies, they seek to pass off as a great TRUTH. Have you noticed the deviousness, THE BIG LIE approach? It's inculcated in them. in7cul7cate (9n-k>l k3t , 9n k>l-) tr.v. in7cul7cat7ed, in7cul7cat7ing, in7cul7cates. 1. To impress (something) upon the mind of another by frequent instruction or repetition; instill: inculcating sound principles. 2. To teach (others) by frequent instruction or repetition; indoctrinate: inculcate the young with a sense of duty. [Latin inculc3re, inculc3t-, to force upon : in-, on; see IN-2 + calc3re, to trample (from calx, calc-, heel).] --in cul7ca tion n. --in7cul ca tor n. The cure?????? Hit 'em in their insecurity? Tried logic, figured that's too complex (for them), thought is far to difficult for them to digest so...... short sentences and sentence fragments....... Possible cure is to hold them by the throat for a generation or two..... Feed them hamburgers, coke and thorazine until then. A.T. PS Other anti-psychotics may be effective. BTW - a US pharmaceutical co. ,seriously proposed that Western medicine (like the kind for people:) may not be effective on them because of their conditions, environment and their adaptation to the aforementioned. I am deadly serious about that! Incredible isn't it? I laughed like hell, when I saw the report, but .....think about THAT one. Scary.....plus you had a certain genetic selection going on as well - Homo Sovieticus. whereby the decent people were killed, Homo Sapien, and the scum encouraged and survived to breed, i.e., Rottenbergers, Pidor Whorebreaths, Borya Veytsmongols and V.Sovokins, Dimitri Pruss..... Clear examples - all, of the kind of scum you'll find washing up ashore from Sovok. At the same time, the better genetic strains of Homo Sapiens were being killed: "Kulaks", westernizers, "engineer's plot", genocide of Ukraine's best, wholesale deportations of entire nationalities, Crimean Tartars, Cheechens. Russia's Tambov peasant revolt, etc.... Thus, Stalinist cocksuckers and their shit progeny like the above named assholes and soc.culture.soviet criminals made it. A "natural selection" in reverse. Though some of the killers were themselves killed for not being shitty enough! That's why some of the above named will have an excuse (lie) to possibly protest this, and cite members of their own rat-like family members killed, though the real rationale is inherently false and flawed. The proof of their lying vector of approach is their own thinking and logic. Sad isn't it? THEY LIVE. BUT NOT FOR LONG. TIME TO DIE. From dlv@bwalk.dm.com Mon Jan 29 21:22 EST 1996 Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [136.161.128.3]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA15101 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:22:12 -0500 Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA10915 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 96 21:14:52 -0500 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:50:51 EST for verbit@math.harvard.edu To: verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Subject: Re: Request for info regarding a Ukrainian anti-Semite in NYC From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr. Dimitri Vulis) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:50:49 EST In-Reply-To: Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Content-Type: text Content-Length: 18688 Status: RO Path: perun!alexplore From: alexplore@bwalk.dm.com (Alex Thurston) Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.ukrainian,alt.current-events.ukraine,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.african.american,soc.culture.romanian,soc.culture.german,nyc.general,nyc.announce,relcom.politics,alt.censorship,alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Request for info regarding a Ukrainian anti-Semite in NYC Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 20:32:20 EST Organization: Smert'UNSO >From: swampvoors@aol.com (Swampvoors) >Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian >Subject: Swampvoors announces who I am! >Date: 28 Jan 1996 04:02:47 -0500 >Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) >Lines: 92 >Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com >Message-ID: <4efe3n$g39@newsbf02.news.aol.com> >Reply-To: swampvoors@aol.com (Swampvoors) >NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com > >Dear readers and posters to soc.sulture.ukrainian and other interested >newsgroups. > >I am Swampvoors@aol.com My real name is Yarema Andrey Bachynsky. I used to >have it in my aol profile, but after receiving all sorts of garbage from >Mr. Alex Thurston, YOU LIE ONCE MORE. SHALL I PROVE IT ? WANNA PUT SOME MONEY ON IT ? HELD IN ADVANCE BY A NEUTRAL PARTY ? :) > whose former name is Andriy Chmilewski, and who takes >special pelasure in hiring Ukrainian nannies and then mentally and >verbally abusing them for being Ukrainian, SEE ABOVE. > I took the name out of the >provfile and wnet, so to speak, underground. YOU ARE A COWARD, CORRECT, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE RATIONALE FOR YOUR ABOVE CLAIMED ACTION LITTLE FAT BOY, WAS IT ? REMEMBER YOUR E-MAIL WHERE YOU SAID YOU WOULD *NEVER* GIVE YOUR REAL NAME.... AS THOUGH ANYONE OTHER THEN YOU OR YOUR EMPLOYER OR CO-WORKERS GIVE A SHIT..... REMEMBER ? $$$$ - WANNA BET ? :) >Yes, I am the poster of much stuff to uke newsgroups. On a number of >occassions I have posted items which certian people construed as >anti-Semitic. HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY HAVE "CONSTRUED" IT AS SUCH ? > If any of you have been reading some of the stuff Mr. Alex >Thurston has been posting, using an anon address, with some real posts by >me and a number of forged ones, 1) WRONG. 2) LIE. >you will no doubt be aware that I HAVE, >indeed, posted material which has not cast JEWISH LOBBY GROUPS AND CERTAIN >JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS in a positive light. OH ? >When I suggested that Ukraine needs to be led by (chiefly) an ethnically >Ukrainian elite, beholden not to the IMF but rather to the Ukrainian >people, I meant it. I stand by such statements. NOT THE ISSUE. >When I said that I oppose Ukraine giving up its nuclear arms in the vain >hope that outside countries will guarantee its security, I meant it. adn I >still do. NOT THE ISSUE. >When I said, many times, that Ukraine will not be secure until Russia >ceases to exist in its prsent configuration, with Moscow as an imperial >center, I meant and I STILL do. When I say that the day will come when >there will be a blue and yellow flag flying over the ruins of the Mosocw >Kremlin, I meant exactly that: the destruction of the Muscovite Empire. AND THE JEWS ? WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING JEWS YOU HATE? LET'S NOT FORGET THOSE `FUCKING JEWS`! REMEMBER ? THEY ARE THE REASON YOU CAN'T GET LAID EITHER, RIGHT ? AH BLAMES DE JEWS FO' MAH PLIGHT ! IT'S COUSA DEM BIG DICK JEWS, DAT I GOT NO WIFE ! IT'S DEM JEWS, WHAT THROWS DIS HERE TRASH, 'ROUND MY SHACK! IT'S DEM JEWS, WHAT MAKES ME SMOKE DIS HERE CRACK ! >As to the charges of anti-Semitism, I can say with a clear conscience that >my beef, which I expressed, sometimes normally and a few times rather >indelicately, stems from what I perceive as undue influence of Jewish >political lobbies in the US and an undue amount of deference given by >Ukraine's government to Jewish interests in Ukraine. ABOVE IS A LIE. YOU WANT THE DESTRUCTION AND DEATH OF ALL JEWS RUSSIANS, ANYBODY ELSE ? YOU ARE VERY FUCKED UP. YOU LIKE TO POST INFO FROM PRIVATE E-MAIL, REMEMBER ? I SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PRIVALEGE, RIGHT ? SO YOU WANT ME TO PROVE THE ABOVE AND MANY OTHER THINGS ? MAYBE I'LL JUST FORWARD THAT TO THE ANON. GROUP THAT HAS A DEEP, DEEP INTEREST IN YOU...... LET THEM DEAL WITH YOU....BECAUSE YOU JUST SMELL TO MUCH OF DEATH, DESEASE AND SHIT. SEND 'EM STUFF THAT WAS CC'ed to others as well.... HMMM....... IT COULD HAVE GONE ALREADY :) FROM HERE TO THERE, FROM THERE TO FURTHER THERE.... MAYBE A- L - L THE WAY TO WHERE YOU WORK WITH YOUR, "Jewish colleagues". >These are my personal opinions. I am not interested in exchanging hate >mail with people. The only persons who are interested in this are Alex >Thurston and some of his friends, whom I will not name because I do not >have a personal beef with them. They will, if they are wise, observe the >same policy towards me. GUESS SOME PEOPLE, ESP. JEWS ARE NOT "WISE" BY YOUR STANDARDS, ARE THEY, LITTLE OVERWEIGHT BOY WITH THE GUTLESS, THREATENING, LYING, WEASELING LOUD MOUTH ? >Now, lastly. If I have offended Jewish persons with the tone of some of my >posts I apologize for this. I have Jewish colleagues with whom I regularly >argue over such things as Israeli influence in the US Congress and John >Demjanjuk and other tense bones of contention. "If I have offended Jewish persons.." YOU THINK THAT IS POSSIBLY THE CASE BACHYNSKY ? YOU "JEWISH PERSONS" OUT THERE OFFENDED ? "....I DON'T HATE THEM NEGRAS, WHY SOME OF MAH, NEIGHBORS ARE NEGRAS...." A QUOTE FROM SHERIFF FLOYD TIDWELL - SOMEWHERE IN THE DEEP SOUTH, FROM A LONG, LONG TIME AGO... > I am not a Holocaust-denier NO ONE SAID YOU WERE... DID THEY ? "STRAW MAN ARGUMENT" -- LIKE ABOVE, IS BULLSHIT ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION. NOT THE SOLE CRITERIA FOR ANTI-SEMITISM ANYWAY..... HITLER, NOR EICHMAN WERE "HOLOCAUST-DENIERs" EITHER, WHERE THEY ? > nor do I support any kind of national >socialist agenda. YOU FUCKING LIE ! > I do believe that in these times, those who speak out >against such things as foriegn aid to Israel or, for that matter, Morley >Safer and the 60 Minutes debacle, are branded anti-Semites. So be it, I am >prepared to back up any argument advanced by myself on these groups hereon >in. > I am not saying this to get in anyone's good graces. I am indeed >interested in debating concrete issues. I believe that uke groups can >potentially serve such a purpose IF and only IF such cowards, libels and >maggots as Alex Thurston are TUNED OUT of the discussion. FREE SPEECH (WHICH YOU SANG SO LOUDLY ABOUT EARLIER) IS ONLY FOR YOU AND OTHER RACISTS, GENOCIDISTS, NAZIS AND COMMUNISTS EH ? ''COWARD'' EH ? :) PERHAPS I SHALL REPOST MY EARLIER OFFER TO YOU ? AND HOW YOU RESPONDED OH, GLORIOUS HERO FROM THE CLOSET EH ? :)) WORTH A LAUGH, THE IRONY IS THAT *YOU* LIKE TO CALL FOR BLOOD, VIOLENCE & WAR ON PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR NATIONALITY OR BECAUSE THEY PRAY TO GOD IN A DIFFERENT MANNER....... CONTRADICTION, LIE, CONTRADICTION, TWIST....... AD NAUSEAM... > If I am guilty of anything, it could be described, I think, as >tactlessness and a poor choice of words. MUCH MORE..... > At the same time, though, I must >say that some of my sharper posts were not well-thought out responses to >virulent anti-Ukrainian or Ukrainophobic posts and malicious attacks on >Ukraine. BULLSHIT ! YOU LIE, AND LIE LOW LIKE A RUG.... YOU THINK "THE JEWS" ARE INTO BEING : "....virulent anti-Ukrainian or Ukrainophobic posts and malicious attacks on Ukraine." WHAT DOES THE ABOVE HAVE TO DO WITH JEWS AND OR "WORLD DOMINATION" AND ETC. OF YOUR SHIT ? YOU REALLY THINK A JEW WOULD RECOGNIZE A UKRAINIAN EVEN IF ONE WERE TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND BITE HIM ON THE ASS ? " AH BLAMES DE JEWS FO' MAH PLIGHT ! IT'S COUSA DEM BIG DICK JEWS, DAT I GOT NO WIFE !" NO EXCUSE. NO *INVALID* RATIONALIZING IS VALID. GOT IT ? PEOPLE HOLDING CIVIL SERVICE JOBS OR APPOINTED POSITIONS IN EITHER THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTORS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO OR HAD THE PERSONAL DECENCY TO RESIGN THEIR POSITIONS FOR LESS SHIT THEN YOU SMEAR... AND THROW AROUND THE WORLD..... YOU'RE AN EMBARRASMENT TO HOMO SAPIENS AND WHEREVER YOU WORK AND WITH WHOMEVER YOU WORK.... HOPE YOU DON'T WORK WITH KIDS DO YOU ? "IT'S DEM JEWS, WHAT THROWS DIS HERE TRASH, 'ROUND MY SHACK! IT'S DEM JEWS, WHAT MAKES ME SMOKE DIS HERE CRACK !" > I in no way deny I have posted some vicious attacks on Moscow (no >not on Russians per se, LIE ! > as certain other Ukes who abhor my posts ahve done >quite gratuitously). I will continue shooting down Moscow with a better >choiuce of words, until Moscow relinquishes its imperial grip over land >and peole's which do not belong to it. MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS ! OH GREAT BACHYNSKY ! DIRECT AND COMMAND US ALL FROM YOUR CLOSET ! LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION, LEAD US AGAINST THE JEWS ! HOW GREAT THOU ART INDEED ! MANY TIMES YOU HAVE PUBLICLY EMPTIED YOUR BOWELS ON THE NET, URGING ALL THE LITTLE PEOPLE FROM EVERYWHERE TO HEED YOUR HOWLING CALLS OF ACTION AGAINST ME, OTHER INDIVIDUALS, JEWS, RUSSIANS ... DID I MISS ANYONE ? OH YEAH, YOU GOT A THING ABOUT NIGGERS.....ALMOST FORGOT.... HOW ARE YOU ON CHECHENS AND NEW ZEALANDERS BY THE WAY ? >AND FINALLY, I am not berkyt@aol.com. LIE ! YOU ARE ! ....AND THAT'S HARDLY THE MAIN ISSUE ANYWAY IS IT ? > I do not know who that person is. SEE ABOVE. WHY DO YOU PUT SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON YOUR BULLSHIT, VERY APPARENT DIVERSIONS ? IT'S RATHER OBVIOUS YOU AIN'T TOO SWIFT A FELLOW.... YOUR MOUTH IS FAR LARGER THEN YOUR BRAIN. >I would suggest that person, too, come out in the open, so that he/she may >join a normal debate on the uke groups. I AM SICK OF HAVING ALEX THURSTON >HARASS ME. RELUCTANTLY AND UNFORTUNATELY, I MUST CONFESS AND NOT ACCEPT FALSE CREDIT AND GLORY...... IT WASN'T ME POSTING FROM: an501292@anon.penet.fi TOO BAD. :)) YOU *KNOW* I PROPOSED SOMETHING MORE --DIRECT-- EARLIER , IN OUR E-MAIL EXCHANGE, YOU GUTLESS LITTLE, LOUD-MOUTHED SHIT....REMEMBER ? NOPE.... WHEN IT'S ME, YOU *WILL* KNOW IT :) SO YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN, SHITHEAD...... IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME POSTING THOUGH.... I SHALL WATCH YOU GET FUCKED IN THE ASS........ YOU WILL PROBABLY ENJOY IT THOUGH....... AT THE POINT OF CLIMAX YOU WILL CRY OUT AND POST "ALERT, ALERT, ALERT!!!!!.... I AM GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS..... I ORDER TO DEFEND ME , TO PROTEST THIS...THEY'RE FUCKING SWAMPVOORS IN THE ASS!!!!.......D - E - E - P - L - Y....AHHHH!!!!!!" >Please also note that Alex Thurston thought that he could make me empty my >bowels in worrying over whether the Internet community knows my name. >Well, sorry Alex, sorry to steal your thunder, but I have "come out of the >closet." COURAGEOUS OF YOU. NOTHING LIKE A BRAVE, LOUD, SHORT, FAT BOY TO INSPIRE EVERYONE. ......AND WHAT WAS HANGING FROM YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU DID EMERGE FROM YOUR CLOSET ? EVIDENTLY YOU HAD NO CHOICE. THIS IS WHY YOU, "GOT IT UP", CORRECT ? .............................begin...... Subject: Request for info regarding a Ukrainian anti-Semite in NYC Message-ID: <051314Z27011996@anon.penet.fi> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 05:12:09 UTC Reply-To: an501292@anon.penet.fi Organization: Anonymous forwarding service Lines: 109 X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.ukrainian,alt.current-events.ukraine,soc.culture.russian,nyc.general,nyc.a nnounce,alt.aol-sucks We would like to take this opportunity to thank all those who let us know that the Ukrainian anti-Semite that posts flames to Usenet as "swampvoors@aol.com", "berkyt@aol.com", "an172550@anon.penet.fi", and "an236722@anon.penet.fi", has a last name that starts with a "B" and ends with a "y". We'll post the rest soon. P.S. Several Ukrainians kindly forwarded to us the anti-Semitic e-mails sent to them by Mr. B-y (aka "swampvoors"). We'll begin posting them very soon. Thanks! ......................end repost.............. YOU HALLUCINATE THAT YOU CAN BULLSHIT YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS BACHYNSKY SCUM... >Better luck next time, Alex old-boy, and long live free speech and open >debate. YOU JUST WROTE: >"...potentially serve such a purpose IF and only IF such cowards, libels and >maggots as Alex Thurston are TUNED OUT of the discussion." OR WAS THAT A "FORGERY" ? >It is time for a change. No more name calling. Let's talk serious shit. HMM.... DIDN'T YOU JUST WRITE: >"...IF and only IF such cowards, libels and >maggots as Alex Thurston are TUNED OUT of the discussion." HMM..... LOTS OF FORGERIES GOIN' AROUND YOU IT SEEMS.... :) HEY BUCHYNSKY ! WE'RE OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD.... WE'RE OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD.... THE WONDEFUL WIZARD OF OZ.... BECAUSE.... BECAUSE..... BECAUSE..... AND NOW THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE CLOSET AND IN THE WOODS..... "LIONS AND TIGERS.." AND JEWS, BACHYNSKY !" OH MY !" "LIONS AND TIGERS.." AND JEWS, BACHYNSKY ! "OH MY !" "LIONS AND TIGERS.." AND JEWS, BACHYNSKY ! "OH MY !" >PS Alex, if you want to delete this post soon after I post it, LIE. I HAVE NOTICED, THAT IN YOUR LOUD "COWARDLY", PSYCHOTIC, SCREAMING YOU HAVE CLAIMED THAT SOME MYSTERIOUS GROUP HAS "CANCELED" YOUR POSTS. POSTS, WHICH SOMEHOW (NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD WHAT OR HOW) IMPLIED THAT IT WOULD HAVE SHOWN AND OR PROVEN THAT YOU WEREN'T TOTAL SCUM. YET YOU NEVER POSTED PROOF OF THE "FORGED CANCELS", DID YOU ? ISN'T THAT JUST PRECIOUS ? :) > just be >aware that Misha Verbitsky, Larisa Streeter, Bohdan Petro Rekshynsky and >several other persons all have copies of this post. SO WHAT ? MAYBE YOU THINK THAT POSTING ONLY ON A UKRAINIAN GROUP THAT YOUR PROMOTION OF RABID HATRED AND VIOLENCE OF JEWS AND OTHERS WILL BE TOLERATED AND YOU DREAM YOU ARE SAFE THERE ? YOU THINK YOU ARE A MOST POPULAR FELLOW THERE ? YOU BEEN PULLING ON YOUR LITTLE, "JAREMA", IN THE CLOSET IN THE DARK FOR A L - O - O - O - O - G TIME HAVEN'T YOU OH CLOSET SUPERMENCH ! THOUGH IT IS INTERESTING THAT MR. VERBITSKY IS INCLUDED HERE.... CONSIDERING ALL HIS POSTS IN FAVOR OF *GENOCIDE*, HATRED TO MANY GROUPS, ADVOCATING WAR ETC...... NOT TO SURPRISING THAT YOU WOULD FEEL SOME COMMONALITY WITH HIM IS IT ? :) BY THE WAY, YOUR FELLOW GENOCIDE ADVOCATE AND RACIST, JERK-OFF VERBITSKY NO LONGER POSTS. WANNA KNOW WHO SENT PROF. YAU SOME OF HIS (VERBITSKY'S) GENOCIDE AND TORTURE SHIT REGARDING FINNS, MOSLEMS IN GENERAL, CHECHENS, AMERICANS, UKRAINIANS, FINNS, ESTONIANS, LATVIANS, LITHUANIANS, BLACKS, ETC..... I DID. :) I FEEL MOST PROUD ! VERBITSKY IS FREE TO BE A FOOL AND POST AND MASTURBATE IN PUBLIC AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE FREE TO CONGRATULATE VERBITSKY OR TELL HIM NOT TO BE A EMBAR--ASS---MENT TO THEM. THEY WERE PUBLIC POSTS, WEREN'T THEY ? I MADE SURE HIS GREAT THOUGHTS RECEIVED A WIDER DISTRIBUTION. HE REALLY OUGHT TO THANK ME, DON'T YOU THINK ? WONDER WHAT THE GOOD PROF. YAU THOUGHT OF HIS GENIUS ? DID YOU AND VERBITSKY SIT IN THE SAME CLOSET JERKING EACH OTHER OFF AND SHARE A COPY OF _MEIN KAMPF_ ? AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND YOU SCUMBAG BACHYNSKY IS THAT HE DIDN'T WHINE, THREATEN, SPIT, LIE, TWIST IN SUCH A PUBLICLY, HYSTERICAL AND COWARDLY MANNER.... NOR DID HE CLAIM THAT SOMEONE "BROKE INTO HIS ACCOUNT" AND POSTED FORGERIES ETC... > So if you delete it, >or if any of your freinds do, I have witnesses who will be able to confirm >that such a post existed SUCH A CLEVER, LYING, DEVIOUS AND *INTELLIGENT* CREATURE YOU ARE ! HMM....... OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY DON'T YOU POST THE STUFF YOU CLAIM WAS "CANCELED" ? NICE IF YOU COULD BOTHER TO SHOW THE CLAIMED *CANCEL MESSAGES* AS WELL WOULDN'T IT ? :) IT WOULD ALSO SHOW OR GIVE A PATH TO *WHO* DID YOUR CLAIMED CANCELS, WOULDN'T IT ? :) BETTER THAN MERELY TALKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT ? :) WHY DO I SOMEHOW THINK THIS WON'T HAPPEN ? > and was, indeed posted by Swampvoors@aol.com >(Yarema A. Bachynsky) > >Na vse dobre. YOU INDEED MAKE ME WISH TO VOMIT..... REMEMBER THIS ? ...........................BEGIN QUOTE............................................................................ > >Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) > id 013x for alex; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:24:26 -0500 >Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by uucp.intac.com >(8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA00511 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:12:59 -0500 >(EST) >From: Swampvoors@aol.com >Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA18974 for alex@usmeds.com; Sat, 4 Nov >1995 14:12:28 -0500 >Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:12:28 -0500 >Message-ID: <951104141227_12751004@mail06.mail.aol.com> >To: alex@usmeds.com >Subject: Re: SWEET MOTHER RUSSIA (fwd) >Message-ID: <815498691@usmeds.com> >Content-Length: 694 >Content-Lines: 31 >Status: R > >Aha.....so you expect me to play the pro-Jewish card now......as the bad guy >in "Live and Let Die" would >say...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA >HAH!!!!!!!!! >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Simcha may be a good man, but he is still a rat with a SOVOK mentality. > >I don't think Ukes need Hebes to build Ukraine. In fact, we need a CLEANSING >of our great ARYAN land..... > >Did you hear that? > >Did you hear that? > >Huh?........huh?! > > >With the deepest circumcision, > >I remain, > >the One, > >the Only, > >descended from Adolf Old-boy himself, > >and always ready to do the Lord's work in solving the Jewish question once >and for all, > >Andriy Bodnarchuk > ...............................END OF QUOTE....................................................................... SHALL I POST MY REPLY TO YOU WHEN YOU SENT ME THE ABOVE E-SHIT, LITTLE, OBESE, GUTLESS PUNK ? REMEMBER ? YOU HAVE A POOR MEMORY IT WOULD SEEM, AGAIN I REMIND YOU (AS YOU DID NOT RESPECT MY PRIVACY REGARDING OUR PRIOR E-MAIL BEFORE. (BECAUSE YOU ARE SOME SORT OF ILL DEFINED SOCIOPATH AND CLOSET UBER-MASTURBATOR.) *ALL* OF MY MATERIALS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE ANON. POSTER.... .... SEEMS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY DONE SO..... BUT JUST TO MAKE* REALLY* SURE.... " I'M GONNA WAIT TILL THE MIDNIGHT HOUR," WATCHIN' YOU "TAKE IT UP YO' ASS....." I'M GONNA WATCH YOU "TWIST AND SHOUT NOW," >We would like to take this opportunity to thank all those who let us know that >the Ukrainian anti-Semite that posts flames to Usenet as > > "swampvoors@aol.com", >"berkyt@aol.com", > "an172550@anon.penet.fi", > and > "an236722@anon.penet.fi" > >, has a >last name that starts with a "B" and ends with a "y". We'll post the rest soon. > >P.S. Several Ukrainians kindly forwarded to us the anti-Semitic e-mails sent to >them by Mr. B-y (aka "swampvoors"). We'll begin posting them very soon. Thanks! From alex@usmeds.com Sat Feb 24 20:54 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA15701 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:54:28 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id UAA16173 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 029r for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:25:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: hkt@wwa.com, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU (verbose mouse) Subject: Larisa Street(walk)er Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:25:28 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825211528.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2980 Status: RO >From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) >To: Bohdan@tryzub.com >Cc: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, > dlv@bwalk.dm.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, simon1@bu.edu >Subject: Re: Please vote NYET on soc.culture.russian.moderated >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:50:39 -0500 >X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 > >In article you wrote: >>Greetings, >> >> Sometime ago, I brought up an issue about the objectivity of one of >>the male moderators proposed for this moderated forum. After debate, >>I reconsidered my stance and then I asked that a statement be made. >> >> This statement was not made; an obfuscating and rambling >>monologue was issued by Mr. Ponarin which in no way addressed >>by request (both posts are still available on Internet) regarding >>objectivity and open-mindness, especially on Ukrainian issues which >>are intermingled (intermangled? chuckle!) with Russian matters. >> >> Due to this, I have no confidence in this new group and am even MORE >>convinced about Mr. Ponarin's duplicity. >> >> At this point in time, I strongly urge others to vote NYET. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Bohdan Petro Rekshyns'kyj >......................................................................................... >Censorship sucks eh ? >No shit Sherlock..... > >You should have seen it coming when the whorebreath sovok didn't x-post to s.c.uke, >When he said.......... &.. did. ...& ...said.....&....did.....&&..&& >When he fucked around on the follow ups and you said "...not sporting..." >When he came forth and said .... ahh....what the fuck..... you Bohdon *are* too slow to realize that >a sovok is a fuckin' sovok i.e. Ponarin et Whorebreath..... they must be beaten and shit upon..... and >then beaten and shat >upon some more.... then pissed on . For the next 3 generations..... (probably 4 generations as E. >Europe and worse, is always more behind and primitive). > >Your buddy Larisa can't speak Russian, can't load a lousy font and despite her statement to the >contrary ".. neither do I attempt to stifle my opponents. Never have, don't plan to start now" > >A FUCKING LIE...... and a bad & vicious one at that....... > >BTW.... I'll Cc this to streetwalker as should be done *but* a long time ago (after she lied and went >behind my back and lied in my face a few more times and did other charming shit) she claimed to >have used her great ** tech**. skills to set up a prc program on *Unix* based Neosoft.com to >exclude anything from me and Dimitri's domains..... > SUDDENLY, CONVIENIENTLY AND AFTER SOME INTERESTING E-MAIL EXCHANGES AND >AT A VERY INTERESTING MOMENT..... I still cc her anyway because its obvious she is a fuckin' >liar..... however, it's interesting to hear Grand Censor Streetwalker and *you* >call for censorship is it not ? > >Just like fuckin' sovoks from sovok ! > >Disgusting ! > >Little Octoberists ! From alex@usmeds.com Sat Feb 24 20:54 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA15708 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:54:46 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id UAA16174 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 029t for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:27:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, hkt@wwa.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, GIFT@delphi.com Subject: Liar, prostitute, Ukrainian bullshitter : Anubis (fwd) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:27:50 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825211670.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5183 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) > Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:43:14 -0500 > > > From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) > > To: Gorilka@bodun.inc.com > > Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, simon1@bu.edu, > > dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, vshir@aol.com > > Subject: Anubis > > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:03:19 -0500 > > X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 > > X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 > > Message-Id: <824130199.7054@usmeds.com> > > Content-Length: 5717 > > Content-Lines: 154 > > Status: R > > > > In article <4febde$fhf@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM > > (Anubis) wrote: > > > > > In article ,Gorilka > > > wrote: > > > > >In article <4fdtls$r2c@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, buri@probe2.phys.ualberta.ca > > >(Michael Burianyk) wrote: > > > > > >Finally, as I understand it, Larisa was asked to be a moderator. This > > > >speaks well of her reputation on the 'net with just about everyone but you. > > > > > >I hope, it wouldn't be too rude to ask who did ask Larisa (or others) to > > > >be moderator(s). Sorry, this seems to be kept secret so I wonder if you > > > >will be willing to enlight me. > > > > > > Peter Vorobieff addressed this question already. Please check earlier on > > > in this thread - Monday or Tuesday, I think it was. > > > > > > > Larisa, I checked my server for P. Vorobieff's articles. I found 18 of > > them, sometimes 5 copies of the same article. There is no indication on > > the answer WHO exactly asked him or you or others to be moderators. > > Perhaps, I overlooked it or it is no longer on my server or may be you > > mistaken. Would you mind posting an answer for this simple question? I > > heard from your argument with Max that you keep extensive diskette archive > > of the usenet articles, so it should be easy for you. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Gorilka > > ........................................................................ > > > > MY, MY, MY...... > > > > WHAT HAVE WE HERE ? > > > > A "THINKING" SOVOK EH ? :) > > > > (OR AT LEAST ONE WHO, SEES THE OCCASIONAL NEURONAL PASSAGE :) > > > > THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTANT AND THE *ONLY* SOVIET ANIMAL > > > > TO *THINK* A LITTLE BIT AND *ASK* THESE VERY *BASIC* AND *VERY* > *OBVIOUS* > > (TO A WESTERNER ANYWAY) > > > > QUESTIONS......AND TO DO SO IN A POLITE -UNUSUAL FOR YOU- CONSISTANT > > > > FASHION..... > > > > I THOUGHT THEY ALL LIKED TO EAT SHIT, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE EAT SHIT > > > > (preferably more shit if they aren't Russian :) ... > > > > AND DID WHAT OTHERS (HIGHER AND MORE CHAUVANISTIC -even then you- > > SOVOKS) > > TOLD THEM TO DO AND KEEP THEIR STUPID MOUTHS SHIT > > > > EXCEPT TO BACK UP AND DEFEND THE OTHER SOVOK SAVAGES AGAINST > > > > WESTERNERS AND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE FOR > > ALL > > > > NATIONALITIES..... > > > > HMMM........ THE UKRAINIAN CUNT, LARISA STREET(WALK)ER LIED WHEN SHE > > STATED > > (SKIP TO [[[[[[[[[[[ : > > > > > > :LAR > That no one other than yourself, Dragon Fly, and Kagalenko have come out so > > : vehemently opposed to my being on the moderator team also speaks volumes, > > : Mr. Pyziur. > > > > Larisa, I'm hardly in collusion with the people who you've mentioned. > > This is character assasination on your part. > > > > : >: >..nor has she as yet been able to implement KOI8 Cyrillic on any of the > > : >: >terminals/machines from which she accesses the Internet. > > : > > > : >: LAR > I admit there was some glitch on my machine which prevented me from doing > > : >: so. I am in the process of correcting the situation. > > : > > > : >More likely than not I would assume that you don't have the abilities > > : >to implement any sort of Cyrillic drivers or fonts. The talent required > > : >for this is hardly great. > > > > : LAR > You can assume what you wish. One always must assume, of course, when one > > : lacks facts. > > > > : > ..... > > > > :LAR > Regarding Mr. Pyziur's diatribe against the ukes list and his heated > > > > It's hardly a diatribe Larisa. Qualification of posts as "diatribes" is > > more appropriate for individuals such as Vulis (in all of his aliases) > > and Viznyuk. You are showing your typical poor judgement. > > > > You had a very critical hand in suppressing open discussion on the first > > incarnation of 'ukes'; you had a very critical hand in keeping 'ukes' > > submerged and out of view of those you deemed politically incorrect. > > That very clearly speaks of discrimination and intolerance. > > > > :LAR > accusations of my "discrimination and intolerance" of opinions > > : contrary to my own.....I will resist the temptation to bog myself and the > > : readership down with countering every imputation and correcting each of > > : his misstatement. Those who have been reading scu, scs, and scr over the > > : course of the last few years know very well that while I do not back away > > : from a fight, > > > > > > [[[[[[[[[[[[[ neither do I attempt to stifle my opponents. Never have, > > : don't plan to start now. > > > > THE ABOVE IS A LIE. I KNOW AND CAN PROVE THAT. > > (as can the good dr. vulis ) > From alex@usmeds.com Sun Feb 25 22:25 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18508 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:24:59 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA25895 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02am for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:32:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: GIFT@delphi.com, hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Character and Larisa the Street(walk)er - Official Censor of Russian Kulture Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:32:16 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825301936.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2058 Status: RO From alex Fri Nov 3 19:26:40 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 012k for alex; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:26:40 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (.) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: TAPES / PERFIDY / CUNNING = CHARACTER Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 19:26:35 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815444795.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 1652 Content-Lines: 47 Status: R I believe Bawana Dr. Vulis' assesment is correct. I also do not believe, upon thinking about it, that there is a "Brazilian Radio Station," that advertised a need for those type of tapes. Nor does he. None of that seems to hang together.... it would seem there are other, lower motivations involved, plus you have no credibility. Thus, appealing to someone, who is above you, to do something you can not, will not do is rather low again... As someone has suggested: a cheap, lying, low class, lazy Ukrainian kurva, who wants some tapes, lacks honor, and will do anything that is convienient or profitable regardless of circumstances. I, therefore, believe that this is another one of your Nationalist, OKRAINIAN PEASANT CUNNING LIES. The address you can send the tapes to is (which you never said you didn't have before now even though I asked you to *inform* me if you didn't - a long time ago - remember?) : Alex Thurston XXXXXXX XXXXXXX ME 0xxxx Eventually it will get to me. Have a nice life . Don't forget to contact Corporate about me - again. You people will never have a real country. Your greed, stupidity, insecurity, lack of loyalty, and most clever treacheries preclude that. Class will tell everytime. Sneaking, lying, fucking, Ukrainian, Stukach ! Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick From alex@usmeds.com Sun Feb 25 22:25 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18536 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:25:42 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA25892 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02ai for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:29:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: GIFT@delphi.com, hkt@wwa.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: Lying Ukrainian Prostitute Street(walk)er, Illiterate Censor of Russian Kulture Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:29:30 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825301770.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4825 Status: RO From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Tue Oct 31 07:39:18 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00w4 for vickic; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 07:39:18 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15570 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA23780 for vickic@usmeds.com; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:27:07 -0600 (CST) From: Anubis Message-Id: <199510310427.WAA23780@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: Information request To: vickic@usmeds.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:27:07 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 248 Content-Lines: 9 Status: R Dear Ms. Carr, Could you please tell me what your company's policy is regarding e-mail harassment? I understand you are the administrative contact for USMEDS and would be the proper person to answer this question. Thank you. --Larisa XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From vickic Tue Oct 31 09:14:58 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00w7 for vickic; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:14:58 -0500 From: vickic@usmeds.com (Vicki Carr) To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Subject: Re: Information request Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:14:55 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815148895.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 1141 Content-Lines: 41 Status: R On 30 October at 22:27, you wrote: > Dear Ms. Carr, > > Could you please tell me what your company's policy is regarding e-mail > harassment? I understand you are the administrative contact for USMEDS > and would be the proper person to answer this question. > > Thank you. > > --Larisa > Along with other functions as the administrative contact, I gather all reports and evidence of abuse, and present them to the board. Any form of abuse, harassment, racial, ethnic, sexual, foul language, etc., from company equipment or accounts is handled by immediate termination of the employee without recourse. Proof is necessary of course. If you have been a victim or experienced any difficulty please inform us. Please explain in detail the nature of your complaint and submit all copies of said e-mail from the user along with your reply. Please be assured that such information is treated in a appropriate manner and taken most seriously. It is important to do so promptly! I am sorry that you seem to indicate that something improper has occurred. Sincerely, V. Carr Administration XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Tue Oct 31 11:06:18 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00wc for vickic; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:06:18 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA10230 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA16028; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:52:08 -0600 (CST) From: Anubis Message-Id: <199510311452.IAA16028@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: Re: Information request To: vickic@usmeds.com (Vicki Carr) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:52:07 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <815148895.7054@usmeds.com> from "Vicki Carr" at Oct 31, 95 09:14:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1137 Content-Lines: 29 Status: R Good morning! Thank you, Ms. Carr, for your prompt and informative response. > ... > Any form of abuse, harassment, racial, ethnic, sexual, foul language, > etc., from company equipment or accounts is handled by immediate > termination of the employee without recourse. Proof is necessary of > course. > > If you have been a victim or experienced any difficulty please inform us. > Please explain in detail the nature of your complaint and submit all copies > of said e-mail from the user along with your reply. > .... > I am sorry that you seem to indicate that something improper has occurred. I have, in fact, experienced some harassment from one of your users. I have requested that he refrain from sending me harassing and profane email, but he has not stopped doing so. I will once more make such a request of him in an attempt to handle the matter like civilized adults. If he sends me another harassing email, however, I will promptly bring it to your attention. Thank you once again for your response. I hope further action on your part will not be necessary. Regards, --Larisa XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From alex@usmeds.com Sun Feb 25 22:27 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18554 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:27:30 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA25907 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02b0 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:57:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: GIFT@delphi.com, hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: OFFICIAL UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTE AND GRAND HIGH SOVOK CENSOR OF RUSSIAN KULTURE Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:57:49 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825303469.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 15188 Status: RO Subject: PART II of III "Stukachina" Larisa The Street(walk)er From alex Sat Dec 30 14:42:21 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 01rg for alex; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:42:21 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Cc: sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: PART II of III "Stukachina" Larisa The Street(walk)er Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:42:11 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <820352531.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 15055 Content-Lines: 437 Status: R YO ! Dr. Vulis! Here you go! :) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Beloved Readers, Fellow Westerners And of-course, to all : Salutations to all members of the Glorious Gehieme Anti-Sovok Partizan Army: War Brief: Hoardes of Sovoks continue to press ashore! Their numbers are incredible! They stream from Sovok with full knowledge of their welfare "Rights". They have also found allies among American Socialists like Clinton and his Lesbian Wife, Prostitutes, Syphlitics, United Nations "one world" supporters anti-Semites, and other Sovok apologists and Nazis. Armed with foodstamps, welfare, federal grants, the struggle is grim indeed. More hard evidence on that Sovok loving, Nat.Inst. of Health anti-Semite- Dimitri PruSS - defending, "stukachina" and Lying, Sneaking, Deceiving, Texas Streetwalker. The red-dick sucking: Larisa "Big Texas Pizda" Street(walk)er. Prof. Viznyuk is hereby, formally petittioned to include the Houston Harlot in his Official Usenet Stukach List. The below evidence is clear: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Tue Oct 31 07:39:18 -0500 1995 Received: by ** (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00w4 for vickic; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 07:39:18 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15570 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA23780 for vickic@*com; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:27:07 -0600 (CST) From: Anubis Message-Id: <199510310427.WAA23780@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: Information request To: vickic@* Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:27:07 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 248 Content-Lines: 9 Status: R >Dear Ms. Carr, > >Could you please tell me what your company's policy is regarding e-mail >harassment? I understand you are the administrative contact for ***** >and would be the proper person to answer this question. > >Thank you. > >--Larisa > As the administrative contact, I gather all reports and evidence of abuse, and present them to the board. Any form of abuse, harassment, racial, ethnic, sexual, foul language, etc., from company equipment or accounts is handled by immediate termination of the employee without recourse. Proof is necessary of course. If you have been a victim or experienced any difficulty please inform us. Please explain in detail the nature of your complaint and submit all copies of said e-mail from the user along with your reply. Please be assured that such information is treated in a appropriate manner and taken most seriously. As the administrative contact, I gather all reports and evidence of abuse, and present them to the board. Any form of abuse, harassment, racial, ethnic, sexual, foul language, etc., from company equipment or accounts is handled by immediate termination of the employee without recourse. Proof is necessary of course. If you have been a victim or experienced any difficulty please inform us. Please explain in detail the nature of your complaint and submit all copies of said e-mail from the user along with your reply. Please be assured that such information is treated in a appropriate manner and taken most seriously. It is important to do so promptly! I am sorry that you seem to indicate that something improper has occurred. Sincerely, V. Carr Administration xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NOTICE THE TRIUMPHANT GLEEFULNESS OF THE STREETWALKING e-SLUT ! LIKE A UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTE WHO HAS JUST STOLEN A WESTERNER'S WALLET AND NOT RENDERED ANY WORK ! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Tue Oct 31 11:06:18 -0500 1995 Received: by *.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00wc for vickic; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:06:18 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA10230 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA16028; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:52:08 -0600 (CST) From: Anubis Message-Id: <199510311452.IAA16028@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: Re: Information request To: vickic@*.com (Vicki Carr) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:52:07 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <815148895.7054@ from "Vicki Carr" at Oct 31, 95 09:14:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1137 Content-Lines: 29 Status: R Good morning! Thank you, Ms. Carr, for your prompt and informative response. > ... > Any form of abuse, harassment, racial, ethnic, sexual, foul language, > etc., from company equipment or accounts is handled by immediate > termination of the employee without recourse. Proof is necessary of > course. > > If you have been a victim or experienced any difficulty please inform us. > Please explain in detail the nature of your complaint and submit all copies > of said e-mail from the user along with your reply. > .... > I am sorry that you seem to indicate that something improper has occurred. I have, in fact, experienced some harassment from one of your users. I have requested that he refrain from sending me harassing and profane email, but he has not stopped doing so. I will once more make such a request of him in an attempt to handle the matter like civilized adults. If he sends me another harassing email, however, I will promptly bring it to your attention. Thank you once again for your response. I hope further action on your part will not be necessary. Regards, --Larisa XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX THEN THE LOW CLASS SNEAKING, e-SLUT SENDS A THREAT AND TELLS ME SHE HAS ME BY THE BALLS WITH MY DICK IN HER LYING, WHORING BROWN AND BLACK TEETH ! IN HORROR AND GREAT PANIC AT SEEING THIS CHEAP HOUSTON, TEXAS, SOVOK-LIKE, DESEASE RIDDEN, FAT-ASSED, LAZY WHORE WITH THE GHOSTLY PALLOR, OBVIOUSLY ILL, A DULL LOOK IN HER GLAZED EYES AS SHE CHARGES ME, WITH A CONFIDENT BUT ATAXIC DRUG-WHORE LURCH, MY LIFE IN HER MERCILESS, DIRTY MOUTH. WITH A CONFIDENT, LOW CLASS e-SLUT UNHOLY VIGOR AND WITH WHAT SHE THINKS IS MY CAREER/COCK IN HER MOUTH, SHE STARTS TO SQUEEZE, WITH GREAT SADISTIC JOY AND GLEE ! SHE KNOWS THERE IS NO ONE TO WITNESS THIS ! IT'S LATE AT NIGHT AND DARK ! (IN REALITY HER MOUTH HAS NOTHING BUT A DEAD RAT AND MEXICAN SEMEN. SHE DIDN'T KNOW THIS...... BUT THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE IN "SWEET LARISA" !!! ) I CONFESS I FEAR GREATLY! AND AM HORRIFIED AT THIS, NEVER HAVING SEEN CUTSIE POO AND , DECENT AND NOBLE SOVOK LOVER LARISA ACT LIKE THIS EVER BEFORE ! (NOT TO SOVOKS ANYWAY) SHE HAS A WESTERNER'S COCK IN HER MOUTH !! SHE'S DRUNK WITH POWER ! NO WITNESSES ! SHE IS STUPID ! IF I WERE A SOVOK AND WROTE GENOCIDAL SHIT LIKE VERBITSKY OR DIMITRI PRUSS IT WOULD BE OK !!! BUT A WESTERN BAWANA DICK !! IN HER MOUTH ! AND NO PEOPLE AROUND TO HELP ME OR SEE THIS ! ...HERE IN THE E-MAIL ALLEY WAY OF THE MEXICAN DISTRICT OF HOUSTON AND SHE IS ONE HYPED UP, RAMPAGING DRUG WHORE ON A SADISTIC POWER TRIP !!! I ADMIT AGAIN.... I AM AFRAID..... AND QUICKLY E-MAIL THE GREAT WHITE HUNTER AND NOTED SOVOKOLOGIST AND SOVOK KILLER, THE GREAT, BAWANA DR. DIMITRI VULIS FOR HELP : >From alex Tue Oct 31 13:17:51 -0500 1995 Received: by (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00wk for alex; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:17:51 -0500 From: alex To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: Re: Final Request Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:17:45 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815163465.7054 Content-Length: 2682 Content-Lines: 112 Status: R Anubis wrote: > Alex, > > Once again, I request that you stop sending me harassing and profane > email. I have asked you to stop before, yet you persist. If I receive > any more harassing material from you, I will forward it to Ms. Vicki Carr > at ***.com and let them deal with it. > > --Larisa > Huh?!! You lie, distort, exaggerate and ignore the real issues like a sovok! What did YOU do! What did YOU say? Send me copies of that or don't you think I should know of what you *INFORMED* them of? Unbeknownst to me, behind my back, innocently not expecting this kind of backstabbing, low class, sneaky, crass, devious, "stukach"lying, obfuscating informant behavior.. SO... UKRAINIAN NATIONALIST LARISA STREETER, YOU WENT TO MY SYS ADMIN ... *FIRST*... AND NOW YOU SEND ME _THIS_ AND TELL ME *AFTERWARDS*. YOU THREATEN ME WITH SO DOING AGAIN.. Hmm.... Low and cunning... you must indeed be proud of yourself.... I am quite sure it didn't take you too long to think of it, did it? I confess, I wouldn't be able to think like this. Even if I were able I couldn't do it... I suppose it would take a full set of Ukrainian genes and training like you to reach such depths... So..... amusing eh.... in "tradition" and in your particular "character"? What did you say to everyone about "I hate the idea of going to one's sysadmin.... freedom of speech....etc...." Wazza madda, Larisa? Too difficult to confront WHAT YOU TRULY ARE? :) Too cheap to buy new tapes? :) Too lazy to make duplicates and return the others? :) Too dishonest to return the ones you got? :) You are a liar and a thief.... and as I see now, even worse... You have no loyalty, no gratitude, no concept of friendship only your shitty, morally bankrupt ego. I do not wish to speak to you Streeter. You totally disgust and revolt me. Send me the tapes back as you said you would, this is all I want. You have *nothing* else that could interest me or anyone decent .... I WOULDN'T E-MAIL YOU AT ALL IF YOU HAD RETURNED THE TAPES, LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD (after you first lied and attempted to deceive me and Dimitri) AND LIKE I ASKED YOU TOO. REMEMBER ? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ? I DON'T WANT TO REWARD YOUR TREACHEROUS, PERFIDIOUS, LYING AND THIEVING BEHAVIOR. I DON'T WANT TO E-MAIL YOU OR ANYTHING*.* YOU. YOU ARE ETHICALLY, REPUGNANT TO ME... PLAY YOUR SIMPERING CUTSIE POO ROLE WITH THE SOVOK SAVAGES ON USENET - NOT ME. Semper fidelis (ask a real American what this means you sovok), Alex xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From dlv@bwalk.dm.com Wed Nov 1 08:00:56 -0500 1995 Received: by (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 00xu for alex; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:00:56 -0500 Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [136.161.128.3]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA18528 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA25700 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 95 23:06:39 -0500 To: alex (.) Cc: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, vickic@****. Subject: Re: Final Request From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr. Dimitri Vulis) Comments: #include || echo '+' >$HOME/.rhosts Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 23:49:21 EST In-Reply-To: <815163465.7054 Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Content-Length: 1059 Content-Lines: 23 Status: R alex (.) writes: > Anubis wrote: > > Alex, > > > > Once again, I request that you stop sending me harassing and profane > > email. I have asked you to stop before, yet you persist. If I receive > > any more harassing material from you, I will forward it to Ms. Vicki Carr > > at USMEDS and let them deal with it. > > > > --Larisa > > > Send me copies of that or don't you think I should know of what you *INFORMED Sanovny Pan Alexplore, As you well know, I don't want to have anything in common with Laryysa because she's informed on Hryysha Steshenko (to Microsoft), on me (to CUNY), on you (to AOL and now to Vicki Carr), and frankly I have better things to do with my life than deal with unpleasant people who lie and try to cause harm to myself and my friends. I don't appreciate being sent copies of such people's e-mail either. Laryysa, don't send me any e-mail. Send Alex his tapes and get the heck out of our lives. We don't want any contact with you. Alex just wants his tapes back. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From alex Fri Nov 3 19:26:40 -0500 1995 Received: by (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 012k for alex; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:26:40 -0500 From: alex To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: TAPES / PERFIDY / CUNNING = CHARACTER Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 19:26:35 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815444795.7054 Content-Length: 1652 Content-Lines: 47 Status: R I believe Bawana Dr. Vulis' assesment is correct. I also do not believe, upon thinking about it, that there is a "Brazilian Radio Station," that advertised a need for those type of tapes. Nor does he. None of that seems to hang together.... it would seem there are other, lower motivations involved, plus you have no credibility. Thus, appealing to someone, who is above you, to do something you can not, will not do is rather low again... As someone has suggested: a cheap, lying, low class, lazy Ukrainian kurva, who wants some tapes, lacks honor, and will do anything that is convienient or profitable regardless of circumstances. I, therefore, believe that this is another one of your Nationalist, OKRAINIAN PEASANT CUNNING LIES. The address you can send the tapes to is (which you never said you didn't have before now even though I asked you to *inform* me if you didn't - a long time ago - remember?) : *EDITED********* ********* ******** Eventually it will get to me. Have a nice life . Don't forget to contact Corporate about me - again. You people will never have a real country. Your greed, stupidity, insecurity, lack of loyalty, and most clever treacheries preclude that. Class will tell everytime. Sneaking, lying, fucking, Ukrainian, Stukach ! Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From alex@usmeds.com Sun Feb 25 22:29 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18599 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:29:07 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA25915 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02b9 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:06:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: GIFT@delphi.com, hkt@wwa.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: PART 3 of III "Stukachina" Larisa The Street(walk)er Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:06:06 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825303966.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 16742 Status: RO Subject: PART 3 of III "Stukachina" Larisa The Street(walk)er From alex Sat Dec 30 14:42:38 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 01rk for alex; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:42:38 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Cc: sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: PART III of III "Stukachina" Larisa The Street(walk)er Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:42:28 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <820352548.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 16661 Content-Lines: 488 Status: R >From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Mon Nov 6 09:24:26 -0500 1995 Received: by (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 0156 for alex; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:24:26 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA21889 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA03197; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:10:47 -0600 (CST) From: Anubis Message-Id: <199511061410.IAA03197@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: A Reminder To: disco@ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:10:47 -0600 (CST) Cc: alex X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1512 Content-Lines: 40 Status: R Mr. **** Last Tuesday I sent you the message below. To date, I have not received from Alex (through you) any civil request for the return of the tapes he sent me. [I don't know if Alex has tried to contact me from either a ****** or bwalk.com address since my mailer will have filtered those domains out and trashed the messages.] I remind you and Alex that if I don't hear from you by tomorrow, on Wednesday I will go ahead and send the tapes (in your name) to the Brazilian radio station that appealed for contributions of Ukrainian music. I am cc'ing Alex on this communication. My apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. You will not hear from me again. --Larisa Forwarded message: > From: Anubis > Subject: Re: Final Request (fwd) > To: alex > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:18:53 -0600 (CST) > Cc: *** > > I have not YET contacted ***, Alex, but I will if you don't stop > harassing me. I am telling you to your face *before* the fact, not going > behind your back. > > If you want to ask me something, please do so in a civil manner, *without* > profanity and *without* name-calling, through your brother. I will not > respond to you again. > > If I don't receive a civil request (and mailing address) within a week > (Nov.7), I will donate the tapes (in your brother's name) to the > Ukrainian radio program in Brazil, who advertised a need for popular > Ukrainian music. > > --Larisa xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From alex Mon Nov 6 13:08:18 -0500 1995 Received: by *(MKS Internet Anywhere) id 015j for alex; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:08:18 -0500 From: alex** To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, ** Cc: *** Subject: Re: A Reminder Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 13:07:41 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815681261.7054 Content-Length: 13902 Content-Lines: 403 Status: R xxxx. and xxxxx: (and anyone else kind enought to hit a "forward" of this to "anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM") {and thanking any and all of you who would be so kind to do so in advance} Could you both be so kind as to forward this to that Larisa Streeter? Dima, would you be so kind as to use "alternate means" as well to forward this? :) (SO SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXCUSE AT ALL.) She is thieving, lying, coniving and playing ego games. She is clearly making it up as she goes along, as you can see from the below messages. Her ego and intellect make her imagine she has control and that she can fool and bullshit someone other then a stupid sovok. Notice, her sudden "set-up of a kill file" on me or Dimitri Vulis when she is too stupid by far to set up a proc mail program on a unix based Neosoft.com. Truly she is a lying okrainian p****! For her to do so: SUDDENLY AND AFTER MY LAST MESSAGE *IS* A LITTLE *CURIOUS* AND *STRANGE* ISN'T IT? :) IN FACT, ALONG WITH A SUDDEN TIME LIMITS DEADLINE (AFTER IGNORING OUR (MY AND DIMITIRI V's requests for A FEW *MONTHS*) IT BECOMES BIZZARE HOW DESPERATELY, SHE ATTEMPTS TO SET UP A DATE *NOW* If she continues, she will be exposed from here to sovok. Begin........................... From: Anubis Message-Id: <199511061410.IAA03197@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Subject: A Reminder To: ** Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:10:47 -0600 (CST) Cc: alex X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1512 Content-Lines: 40 Status: R Anubis wrote: > Mr. *: > YOU GOT THE NAME WRONG, ALONG WITH THE ADDRESS STREETER :) > Last Tuesday I sent you the message below. To date, I have not received > from Alex (through you) any civil request for the return of the tapes he > sent me. [I don't know if Alex has tried to contact me from either a > *Com or bwalk.com address since my mailer will have filtered those > domains out and trashed the messages.] MORE LIES AND BULLSHIT. ALL V-E-R-Y CONVIENIENT ISN'T IT? My, My, how righteous you are eh? Theiving, lying woman! It is clearly evident to you that ** chooses not to get involved despite *your* insistance on this. Indeed, why should he get involved Streeter? Or haven't you noticed Streeter? The world nor the fellow at **, nor *.* exists for your *convience*, your *ego*, your *rationalizations*, *justifications*, *exscuses* or your clever *games*. Right? Why do you continualy insist asking the person at disco*com to get involved when he knows *nothing* about this, has not responded to you or *YOUR SUDDENLY CREATED DEADLINE*? Before which, you have been ignoring requests and *your own words for months* (before now a request from Dima would have been good enough, REMEMBER ?) Shall I quote you your e-mail back at you? Do you think it would do any good Streeter? > > I remind you and Alex that if I don't hear from you by tomorrow, on > Wednesday I will go ahead and send the tapes (in your name) to the > Brazilian radio station that appealed for contributions of Ukrainian > music. I am cc'ing Alex on this communication. > > My apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. You will not hear > from me again. You shouldn't have bothered the man in the first place Streeter, right? You shouldn't have bothered the man after he didn't respond the last time, Streeter, right? Or is there some convienient and profitable reason and rationilization that allows you the right, or serves your convoluted puposes in doing so Streeter? You should have followed your own words, right? You shouldn't be so clever,coniving, right? You really think you can fool everyone? > > --Larisa Begin................................................. Forwarded message: > From alex Tue Oct 31 11:45:13 1995 > From: alex@ (.) > To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM > Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com > Subject: Re: Final Request > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:17:45 -0500 > X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 > X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 > Message-Id: <815163465.7054@usmeds.com> > > Anubis wrote: > > Alex, > > > > Once again, I request that you stop sending me harassing and profane > > email. I have asked you to stop before, yet you persist. If I receive > > any more harassing material from you, I will forward it to Ms. Vicki Carr > > at xxxx.xxx and let them deal with it. > > > > --Larisa > > > > > Huh?!! > > You lie, distort, exaggerate and ignore the real issues like a sovok! > > What did YOU do! > > What did YOU say? > > Send me copies of that or don't you think I should know of what you *INFORMED* them of? > > Unbeknownst to me, behind my back, innocently not expecting this kind of > backstabbing, low class, sneaky, crass, devious, "stukach"lying, obfuscating informant behavior.. > > > SO... UKRAINIAN NATIONALIST LARISA STREETER, > > YOU WENT TO MY SYS ADMIN ... *FIRST*... > > AND NOW YOU SEND ME _THIS_ AND TELL ME *AFTERWARDS*. > > > > YOU THREATEN ME WITH SO DOING AGAIN.. > > > > Hmm.... > > Low and cunning... you must indeed be proud of yourself.... > I am quite sure it didn't take you too long to think of it, did it? > I confess, I wouldn't be able to think like this. > Even if I were able I couldn't do it... > > I suppose it would take a full set of Ukrainian genes and training like you to reach such depths... > > So..... amusing eh.... in "tradition" and in your particular "character"? > > What did you say to everyone about "I hate the idea of going to one's sysadmin.... > freedom of speech....etc...." > > Wazza madda, Larisa? > > Too difficult to confront WHAT YOU TRULY ARE? :) > > Too cheap to buy new tapes? :) > > Too lazy to make duplicates and return the others? :) > > Too dishonest to return the ones you got? :) > > You are a liar and a thief.... > > and as I see now, even worse... > > You have no loyalty, no gratitude, no concept of > > friendship only your shitty, morally bankrupt ego. > > I do not wish to speak to you Streeter. > > You totally disgust and revolt me. > > Send me the tapes back as you said you would, this is all > > I want. You have *nothing* else that could interest me or anyone decent .... > > I WOULDN'T E-MAIL YOU AT ALL IF YOU HAD RETURNED THE TAPES, > > LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD (after you first lied and attempted to deceive me and Dimitri) AND LIKE I ASKED YOU > TOO. > > REMEMBER ? > > WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ? > > I DON'T WANT TO REWARD YOUR TREACHEROUS, PERFIDIOUS, LYING AND THIEVING BEHAVIOR. > > I DON'T WANT TO E-MAIL YOU OR ANYTHING*.* YOU. > > YOU ARE ETHICALLY, REPUGNANT TO ME... > > PLAY YOUR SIMPERING CUTSIE POO ROLE WITH THE SOVOK SAVAGES ON USENET - NOT ME. > > > > Semper fidelis (ask a real American what this means you sovok), > > > Alex > .......................................end > Forwarded message: > > From: Anubis > > Subject: Re: Final Request (fwd) > > To: alex@** > > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:18:53 -0600 (CST) > > Cc: disco@** > > > > I have not YET contacted XXX , Alex, but I will if you don't stop > > harassing me. I am telling you to your face *before* the fact, not going > > behind your back. > > > > If you want to ask me something, please do so in a civil manner, *without* > > profanity and *without* name-calling, through your brother. I will not > > respond to you again. > > > > If I don't receive a civil request (and mailing address) within a week > > (Nov.7), I will donate the tapes (in your brother's name) to the > > Ukrainian radio program in Brazil, who advertised a need for popular > > Ukrainian music. > > > > --Larisa > Here is the copy of the messsage I sent Streeter. Notice throughout all exchanges the dates and who mentions what time frames in all of this. Begin: >>From alex Fri Nov 3 19:26:40 -0500 1995 Received: by **.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 012k for alex; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:26:40 -0500 From: alex@ (.) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: TAPES / PERFIDY / CUNNING = CHARACTER Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 19:26:35 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <815444795.7054@ > Content-Length: 1652 Content-Lines: 47 Status: R I believe Bawana Dr. Vulis' assesment is correct. I also do not believe, upon thinking about it, that there is a "Brazilian Radio Station," that advertised a need for those type of tapes. Nor does he. None of that seems to hang together.... it would seem there are other, lower motivations involved, plus you have no credibility. Thus, appealing to someone, who is above you, to do something you can not, will not do is rather low again... As someone has suggested: a cheap, lying, low class, lazy Ukrainian kurva, who wants some tapes, lacks honor, and will do anything that is convienient or profitable regardless of circumstances. I, therefore, believe that this is another one of your Nationalist, OKRAINIAN PEASANT CUNNING LIES. The address you can send the tapes to is (which you never said you didn't have before now even though I asked you to *inform* me if you didn't - a long time ago - remember?) : {A ADDRESS EDITED OUT} Eventually it will get to me. Have a nice life . Don't forget to contact Corporate about me - again. You people will never have a real country. Your greed, stupidity, insecurity, lack of loyalty, and most clever treacheries preclude that. Class will tell everytime. Sneaking, lying, fucking, Ukrainian, Stukach ! Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick ............................end Message to Streeter woman. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Now Streeter, you can play "nationalism" to the okrainians here to back you up or to hide behind... This won't work, no one here likes a thief and a liar. Esp. one as "hetree" as you! Or you can play the role of "HOW HORRIFIED AND DISGUSTED THIS LANGUAGE MAKES ME FEEL!! OH! OH!! I AM SO WEAK NOW!!!! OH!! OHH!!! Except when you talk like that yourself... :) No one is fooled. How about you? None of this would be necessary if you had returned the tapes months ago. Right Streeter? Begin a previous e-mail(note dates, references to time frames and Streeter's sudden convienient creation of a kill file on the domains of b.walk & this domain. Very profitable, going down loudly lying eh steeter? Bawana Dr. Vulis, in noting her (that street woman's) attempt to blackmail me by going to my sys admin, noted that this has been going on for months, that indeed, neither the good Dr., nor myself wish to have anything to do with this street woman save for her to return the tapes, as she initialy and quite loudly and proudly said she would do, ----remember Ms. Streeter?--- . The issue is one of principle, for me whilst for the street women, the issue is that of profit and convience and not taking responsibility for her actions or words. CHARACTER WILL TELL. I also note and wish others to note how things appear to change and evolve, i.e. time frames, kill files,noble charities, deadlines, how horrified Ms. Streeter has suddenly become at being frankly addressed for her perfidy, lies, thieving, treachery.... all the while holding on to those tapes like a low class redneck, TX prostitute would to cash.... Interesting.... Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of Dr. Vulis' responce to Vicki C the sys. admin. here, with a Cc: to myself and that street woman. That indeed, neither the good Dr. nor myself wish to have anything to do with this street woman save for her to return those tapes. The issue is one of principle, for me, for the street women the issue is that of profit and convience. Perhaps the good Dr. Vulis would care, if he wants to be botherd because of that women, to forward that aforementioned note,the one sent to Vickic, Streeter, and myself, to the others on this Cc: line. You want me to go all the way back on this Streeter? What started it all Streeter? Want me to "post" it *all*, including to Relcom so the sovoks see it Streeter? Want *everyone* to see who and what that "nice, cutsie poo" Streeter woman *really* is? {sig. file of streeter}: Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick Your move Streeter: BACK-OFF NOW! Return the tapes and leave me and my buddy Dima alone! Again, I want nothing to do with you! You disgust and revolt me! END THIS SO I DON'T TALK TO YOU ANYMORE. You will *not* profit from your perfidy or cunning! NO WAY! or is that what you are really afraid of? the lack of attention once this ends? you were able to use your *great tech. skills* to set up the proc mail kill files before the "deadline" eh? :)) A few days *after* me and Dimitri replied eh? :)) Streeter: You are so clever !!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From alex@usmeds.com Sun Feb 25 22:31 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18638 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:31:09 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA25901 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02at for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:45:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: GIFT@delphi.com, hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: UKRAINIAN STREET(WALK)ERs AND RUSSIAN KULTURE ! UNITED FOREVER ! Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:45:22 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825302722.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 22292 Status: RO Subject: Part 1 (look over this shit, more shit comming) From alex Thu Dec 28 16:05:26 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 01r1 for alex; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:05:26 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Cc: sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Part 1 (look over this shit, more shit comming) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:05:15 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <820184715.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 23995 Content-Lines: 657 Status: R Dima, Here's the first part. :) Eventually, all the rest of the shit will get to you. Then I shall fuck the Okrainian kurva for accusing me of being an anti-semite ! Later, Alex PS sent a copy of this shit to people who can keep their mouth shut. Eventually, we will nominate Larisa Kurva to Viznyuk's _ Official Usenet Stukach List_ Larisa Kurva will be the first bitch on it! And the First Bitch on Prof. Viznyuk's Stukach List will be a *OKRAINIAN* BITCH ! :) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >From alex Mon Aug 7 17:47:59 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 0018 for alex; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:47:59 -0400 From: alex@usmeds.com (AT) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: ATTN: Stupid Pizda Streeter Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 17:47:53 -0400 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <807832073.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 5136 Content-Lines: 135 Status: R >>>>From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Mon Aug 7 09:05:18 -0400 1995 Received: Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.*..com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA02034 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 1995 21:24:41 -0400 Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA15520 for alexplor@usmeds.com; Sun, 6 Aug 1995 20:24:14 -0500 From: Anubis Message-Id: <199508070124.UAA15520@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 Subject: To: alexplor@usmeds.com Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 20:24:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 94238 Content-Length: 95548 Content-Lines: 1309 Status: R Alex: I never thought you and Dimitri would stoop so low. Forwarded message: >>>>>From twgonline@aol.com Sun Aug 6 19:56:55 CDT 1995 Article: 19499 of soc.culture.ukrainian Path: uuneo.neosoft.com!news.uh.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!purdue!haven.um d.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: Olenka Stasyshyn Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian Subject: Larissa Streeter taking the Plunge at Suyuzivka (when she was 12 years old). Date: 7 Aug 1995 00:13:23 GMT Organization: Ellicott Square School of Music Lines: 1281 Message-ID: <403lr3$pj9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac29ugli.wam.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: image/jpeg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:soc.culture.ukrainian ================================================= This came to me as I was chatting with Dimitri on the phone. What a dumb, really dumb, cunt you indeed are! As I read your e-mail to Dimitri, he mentioned to me that: 1) He exchanged mail with you concerning this. 2) You would not tell him WHO told you it was us. Now: 1) I came back from Lake George NY on 8/1. 2) I, nor Dimitri, use Mac shit. 3) You piss me off with this greatly. 4) In reviewing the newsgroups, I noticed how my (and Dimitri's) good friend Whorebreath sovok protested the "flooding" of s.c.u.. Such a friend of Ukraine as you know... Also, Maxipad Pizdiuk - who doesn't get laid either, said it wasn't some "Roman Goy" dude he knows from Washington. Recently, he - Pizdiuk - wrote some shit or other on something, accusing either Alexplore, Vulis, or Veronka of forging something or other.... Now you come at me with this shit you gullible bitch... Was it Whorebreath or Pizdiuk... or both... that "told you"? How would they know? Do you think I would deny it to you right now you stupid bitch? Why do you hold me and Dimitri to "white" standards and are so tolerant of those lying pieces of soviet shit and their one and only ally Pizdiuk - who will suck any dick east of Germany, provided it's red... because no one else from that region can stand him... CC: to Dimitri: See, I 'tole you about that Simvlad shit.... That sovok (Whorebreath - Defender of Ukraine) - or sovok asslicker - Pizdiuk - fashionably leftist and controversial before the Fall of Savok,opportunisticaly seized that bullshit about Hrysha and Larissa and it was enough "evidence", combined with their hatred of us to turn her (Streeter's) stupid head that she will _BELIEVE EVEN THAT SOVOK SHIT RATHER THEN YOU OR ME_. No Steeter, I wasn't around lately, and when I was here (since 8/1) I wasn't useneting... And I believe Dimitri when he tells me it wasn't him and says it wasn't his buddy Hrysha Stashenko either... I am also upset with you that tend to believe (2 sovok shitheads in my mind) suggested that I did it - and after Dimitri told you he did not - hold him responsible as well... Naw, no way.... sorry to disappoint you... but I do get layed. How about your fuckin' trustworthy and honorable sovok buddies? Very annoyed with you, Alex (It WAS Maxipad and/or Pider Whorebreath wasn't it my dear? They said it was us - and YOU fuckin' believed them didn't you?! V-E-R-Y S-M-A-R-T of you Streeter... When did you loose your cherry? Can I fuck you too? Seems any sovok can... how about a white man for a change Larissa? Hey Dimitri... let's mind-fuck Larissa... she's r-e-a-l easy... I didn't know you were THAT STUPID... What a dumb shit you are.... No, Larissa, I didn't do it. Note BTW, I can't use "alexplore@usmeds.com" because of a bug thats developed lately, at least with this version anyway.... P.S. Now you can be angry with me.... And you will never admit you were wrong will you? I somehow don't think so.... Thank you! >From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Mon Aug 7 18:29:54 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 0019 for alex; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:29:54 -0400 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA00303 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:38:32 -0400 Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA14084; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:38:30 -0500 From: Anubis Message-Id: <199508072238.RAA14084@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 Subject: To: alex@usmeds.com (AT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com In-Reply-To: <807832073.7054@usmeds.com> from "AT" at Aug 7, 95 05:47:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1728 Content-Length: 1763 Content-Lines: 35 Status: R Alex, It seems I was laboring under the misapprehansion that you enjoyed corresponding with me like a regular person, without posturing, without obscenities. I had thought perhaps, since you had expressed a shared interest in music, we could exchange tapes and comments and impressions about various albums and performers and styles, like we had started to do. (I shall, of course, return your tapes to you at the return address ASAP.) It now seems that you either do not know how to or do not care to have honest and friendly discussions. In the last few months you (and, to a lesser extent, Dimitri) have been progressively more and more crude and obscene in your emails and you cc: other people in your replies who were not part of the original conversation and who have no business being privvy to private email exchanges. Frankly, I don't need that sort of thing. I use email to make friends, learn about other cultures, etc. I don't appreciate receiving this type of verbal abuse. If neither you nor Dimitri had a hand in those forgeries, then those who said you did were misinformed. A simple and civil statement from you to the effect that, "No, it wasn't me, I have no idea who it was." would have settled the matter in my mind and my sincere apology to both you and Dimitri would have been forthcoming by return email - AND readily, as I have absolutely no wish to insult my friends. As it stands, your excessive over-reaction and obscene response make it appear that indeed this is something you would be capable of doing. I have always treated both you and Dimitri with civility and respect. I don't deserve your abuse and you certainly do not merit any sort of apology from me. --Larisa >From dlv@bwalk.dm.com Mon Aug 7 23:53:28 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 001b for alex; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 23:53:28 -0400 Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [136.161.128.3]) by uucp.intac.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA06732 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:50:07 -0400 Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA21372 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 95 22:32:36 -0400 To: Anubis Cc: alex@usmeds.com Subject: Laryysa is caught lying From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr. Dimitri Vulis) Comments: #include || echo '+' >$HOME/.rhosts Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 95 22:13:01 EDT In-Reply-To: <199508072238.RAA14084@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Content-Length: 1851 Content-Lines: 45 Status: R Anubis writes: > If neither you nor Dimitri had a hand in those forgeries, then those who > said you did were misinformed. A simple and civil statement from you to the > effect that, "No, it wasn't me, I have no idea who it was." would have > settled the matter in my mind and my sincere apology to both you and > Dimitri would have been forthcoming by return email - AND readily, as I > have absolutely no wish to insult my friends. Laryyysa is lying. Laryysa sent me the following false accusation on Sunday: ]Dimitri, ] ]I simply never thought you would stoop to this level. followed by 100 kilobytes of her base64 shit. Lucky for Laryysa, I don't pay for bytes transmitted, or I'd bill her for that. To this I responded, simply and civilly: ]Laryyska, ] ]You know perfectly well that I'm not posting this shit. I have no idea who is. ]I think you should apologize now. To which Laryysa the Liar responded: ]> Laryyska, ]> ]> You know perfectly well that I'm not posting this shit. I have no idea who is. ]> I think you should apologize now. ] ]I will apologize if I know it's not you. However, I have been informed ]that it is, in fact, you who posted these latest forgeries. They are ]certainly in your style and far removed from the style of the guy who was ]doing the original forgeries. What the deal is I don't know. Liar Laryysa, don't refer to me as a "friend". I don't have liars for friends. I've discussed the situation with my friend Hryysha, and fully agree with his assessment of you, which is simular to Alexplore's assessment of you, with which I agree as well. You have no credibility left. Stop bothering us. --- Dr. Dimitri Vulis Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps >From alex Tue Aug 8 02:27:27 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 001e for alex; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 02:27:27 -0400 From: alex@usmeds.com (AT) To: Anubis Cc: dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: Re: BULLSHIT STREET(ER) BITCH FROM SOC. CULTURE SOVOK Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 02:27:21 -0400 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <807863241.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 5666 Content-Lines: 144 Status: R Anubis wrote: > Alex, > > It seems I was laboring under the misapprehansion that you enjoyed > corresponding with me like a regular person, without posturing, without > obscenities. "OBSCENITIES" GOODNESS ME! I AM HUMBLED BY THE MERE THOUGHT OF.... I had thought perhaps, since you had expressed a shared > interest in music, we could exchange tapes and comments and impressions > about various albums and performers and styles, like we had started to > do. (I shall, of course, return your tapes to you at the return address > ASAP.) KEEP IT. AS YOU *SHOULD* KNOW (AND UNDERSTAND NAUGHT) IT FURTHERS THE INSULT TO RETURN A GIFT. IF YOU INSIST, THAT IT WOULD BE CONSISTANT AND IN KEEPING WITH YOUR CLASS AND RACE (BTW - ON 7/31 - WHEN I GOT TO LAKE GEORGE, NY, I RAN INTO NANNY # 11 (10 OF THEM WERE YOUR USELESS KIND - I.E. SOVOK, OKRAINIAN VARIANT - THIS ONE FROM IVANO-FRANKIVSK, WHO WAS AT THE CANDY MACHINE STUFFING HER FAT FACE WITH WESTERN CANDY, PAID FOR WITH QUARTERS FILCHED FROM MY WIFE WHILST MY SON WAS WALKING/DROWNING ON A POOL COVER NEAR A HOTEL MY WIFE WAS STAYING AT WHILE ON A MED. ASSIGNMENT AT WORK) GIVE IT TO THE SOVOK(S) SHIT THAT YOU "BELIEVE", THE ONE WHO "INFORMED" YOU ABOUT ME & DIMITRI. POST SCRIPT TO ABOVE: I WAS THERE FROM 7/31 TILL 8/1 (LAKE GEORGE, NY) DOING THE JOB (OF NANNY #11) 10 FUCKIN' OKRAINIANS COULDN'T DO . SEVEN OF THOSE PIECES OF UNGRATEFUL, LYING, THIEVING, SHIT CUNTS IN 7 MONTHS!!! THE 8th MONTH I DID MYSELF. NOT HARD WORK EITHER - I ALSO SAVED $300/week _CASH_. THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSAND (MANY) IT COST IT TERMS OF "OPPORTUNITY COSTS" ETC.... YOUR KIND IS SHIT. > > It now seems that you either do not know how to or do not care to have > honest and friendly discussions. "HONEST AND FRIENDLY DISCUSSIONS"!? YOU HAVE BALLS SAYING THAT TO ME YOU SOVOK LOVER. WHAT DID YOU JUST ACCUSE ME OF? WHO DID YOU BELIEVE INSTEAD OF ME OR DIMITRI?? WHO "INFORMED" YOU IT WAS ME AND DIMITRI WHO WROTE THIS MACINTOSH SHIT? HOW DID DIMITRI OR ME GET TO A MAC MACHINE IN MARYLAND SO WE COULD DO NOTHING BETTER THEN SHOW JPEG PICTURES (ON A MACINTOSH TERMINAL - NO LESS) OF YOU SUCKING KENTUCKY SOVOKIN'S DICK OR WHATEVER IT SHOWS... YOUR ALWAYS ON MY MIND LITTLE LARISSA....HOW I LONG FOR YOUR TWOT AND EGO TO SIT ON MY DICK....SIGH !!!! NOT TOO FUCKED UP ARE YOU? THE ONLY ONE I KNOW WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH MAC SHIT IS BOHDAN R. AND MAXIPAD. DO YOU THINK IT WAS BOHDAN R. YOU GENUIS? PERHAPS BOHDAN TOOK THE BUS FROM PORT AUTHORITY TO UMD? MASTERBATING TO YOUR IMAGE, HMMM....!!! In the last few months you(and, to a > lesser extent, Dimitri) have been progressively I GUESS YOU HAVE SEEN MUCH OF MY WORK IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS HAVEN'T YOU? CERTAINLY ENOUGH TO SEE SO CLEARLY AND EVENLY, THE STEADY DECLINE OF MY MORAL BEING EH? more and more crude and > obscene in your emails DO NOT THINK YOU CAN FLATTER ME STREETER! and you cc: other people in your replies who were > not part of the original conversation and who have no business being > privvy to private email exchanges. ALL cc: DONE OPENLY AND YOU NEVER BITCHED ABOUT IT BEFORE.... YOU'RE REACHING FOR SHIT WITH THIS ONE.... > > Frankly, I don't need that sort of thing. NOR DO I. I use email to make friends, SOVOK FRIENDS > learn about other cultures, SOVOK CULTURE. YOU LEARN AND ABSORB CERTAIN SHIT QUITE WELL, DON'T YOU? OTHERWISE YOU ARE QUITE DENSE, IT WOULD APPEAR...AND LEARN NOTHING. etc. I don't appreciate receiving this type > of verbal abuse. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, I BELIEVE DIMITRI DOES AS WELL.... > > If "IF"? neither you nor Dimitri had a hand in those forgeries, then those who > said you did were misinformed. DELICATELY PUT. "MISINFORMED", EH? AND YOU BELIEVE _THEM_ (HOMO SOVIETICUS) AHEAD OF PEOPLE DON'T YOU? ONE OF MY DOGS HAS MORE CHARACTER AND HEART, SOUL AND HONESTY THEN 10 OKRAINIANS AND 1 RUSSIAN COMBINED. PLUS, THEY DON'T TRY AND FUCK ME OVER AND KILL MY KID AND USE/ABUSE/ROB ME. NO FUCKEN MORE OF THAT SHIT SOVIET SCUM.....OR THEIR APOLOGISTS EITHER... A simple and civil statement from you to the > effect that, "No, it wasn't me, I have no idea who it was." would have > settled the matter in my mind SEE '"IF"?'ABOVE. DID YOU GET IT? THE CONTRADICTION INHERENT WITH THE SENTENCE CONTAINING THE AFOREMENTIONED "IF", AND THE SENTENCE BELOW? and my sincere apology to both you and > Dimitri would have been forthcoming by return email - AND readily, as I > have absolutely no wish to insult my friends. BULLSHIT AGAIN. DIDN'T THE WHITE MAN (DIMITRI) TELL YOU HE DIDN'T DO IT? DID YOU BELIEVE THE WHITE MAN? DID YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE WHITE MAN "SINCERELY" AND "READILY"? As it stands, your > excessive over-reaction and obscene response make it appear that indeed > this is something you would be capable of doing. ...REACHING MORE DEEPLY FOR SHIT...TWISTING AROUND AND LUXURIATING IN THE RIGHTEOUS, SOFT INDIGNATIOUSNESS OF IT I NOTICE.... BEEN HANGING WITH THE BROTHERS FROM SOVOK A L-O-O-N-G TIME HAVEN'T YOU.... DO THEY REALLY HAVE BIG DICKS? ARE THEY REALLY, REALLY RED? ARE THEY EVER UP? > > I have always treated both you and Dimitri with civility and respect. "ALWAYS"? YOU DID NOT DO SO NOW DID YOU? I > don't deserve your abuse YES YOU DO. and you certainly do not merit any sort of > apology from me. YES I DO. > > --Larisa > >From anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Tue Aug 8 10:17:08 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 001f for alex; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:17:08 -0400 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (anubis@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by uucp.intac.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA18476 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 07:27:17 -0400 Received: (from anubis@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.6.10/8.6.10) id GAA20728; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 06:27:14 -0500 From: Anubis Message-Id: <199508081127.GAA20728@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> X-Provider: NeoSoft, Inc.: Internet Service Provider (713) 968-5800 Subject: Re: BULLSHIT STREET(ER) BITCH FROM SOC. CULTURE SOVOK To: alex@usmeds.com (AT) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 06:27:14 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <807863241.7054@usmeds.com> from "AT" at Aug 8, 95 02:27:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 140 Content-Length: 144 Content-Lines: 4 Status: R Please don't email me anymore, Alex. Your recent mails can't nothing short of harassment. I don't think there's anything more to be said. >From usmeds Mon Sep 18 12:19:25 -0400 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 007j for usmeds; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 12:19:25 -0400 From: usmeds@usmeds.com (usmeds) To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Cc: dlv@dm.com Subject: Re: BULLSHIT STREET(ER) BITCH FROM SOC. CULTURE SOVOK Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 12:19:19 -0400 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <811441159.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 2701 Content-Lines: 84 Status: R On 8 August at 06:27, you wrote: > Please don't email me anymore, Alex. Your recent mails can't nothing > short of harassment. > > I don't think there's anything more to be said. > HMMM...... UPON REFLECTION.... _DO_ SEND ME BACK THOSE TAPES AS YOU OFFERED TO EARLIER... THEY WERE A GIFT OF FRIENDSHIP AND TRUST. IT TOOK EFFORT TO AQUIRE AND DUPLICATE AND THEY COST WESTERN MONEY AND WESTERN EFFORT..... A GIFT OF TRUST AND FRIENDSHIP EXPRESSED IN A CONCRETE MANNER TAKING TIME, MONEY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY - EFFORT, MEANT NOTHING TO YOU. THAT IS EVIDENT ISN'T IT MY DEAREST? ONLY YOUR BULLSHIT BRAINLESS THOUGHTS AND INABILITY TO REASON IN A LOGICAL WESTERN MANNER MEANS SOMETHING THAT YOU AND OTHERS OF YOUR RACE CAN UNDERSTAND.... AS A SOVOK (OR AMERICAN/ UKRAINIAN =SAME SHITANYWAY) OF OKRAINIAN OR LITTLE RUSSIAN VARIANT (THE MINOR VARIETY AS OPPOSED TO THE DOMINANT GREAT RUSSIAN SOVOK VARIANT) IT IS APPARENT THATSUCH EFFORTS MEAN NOTHING TO YOU. MARX & LENIN WERE RIGHT, *CLASS* WILL TELL EVERY TIME.. NO ONE "INFORMED" YOU OF ANY SHIT AT ALL ISN'T THAT RIGHT?. IT WAS YOUR _OWN_ OKRAINIAN CUNNING, LYING AND BULLSHIT PEASANT CUNNING WASN'T IT? "DUH UH, UHH...... I'LL ACCUSE ALEX AND DIMITRI OF THIS SHIT EVEN IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I AM A STUPID, _ ** LYING **_ UKRAINIAN CUNT AND STREETWALKER.... THEN I'LL SEE HOW THEY REACT TO IT...DUH UH, UHHH..... IF THEY GET REALLY MAD AT MY STUPIDITY I'LL LIE SOME MORE AND SAY I *know* IT WAS THEM, THAT SOMEONE TOLD ME SO..... AND ACT INDIGNANT, THAT WILL FOOL THEM AND ANYWAY IT'S SOMETHING TO SAY EVEN IF IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE...DUH UH, UHHH.... SEND ME MY TAPES BACK ..... PLEASE CONFIRM SHIPMENT - ONE WORD WILL DO IT - ASK FOR THE ADDRESS IF YOU CLAIM YOU NO LONGER HAVE IT.... I KNOW IT TOOK YOU MONTHS TO SAY "THANK YOU" LAST TIME.... YOU ARE VERY OKRAINIAN LIKE ALL YOUR KIND.... SOVOK ORIGIN OR NOT..... IF YOU WORRY ABOUT THE 2 OR 3 $$ FOR MAILING ( AS I AM SURE ALL YOU OKRAINIANS DO ) I'LL SEND YOU THE $$$ IN ADVANCE.... HMM...... ANOTHER CHANCE FOR A OKRAINIAN TO ROB ME....... (BUT AT LEAST THEY CAN'T HURT A DEFENCELESS BABY WHITE KID ANYMORE) BTW - I WAS "INFORMED" THAT VARIOUS KID AND PARENT GROUPS ON INTERNET ARE GOING TO BE "INFORMED" ABOUT OKRAINIANS AND THE DANGERS THEY POSE TO WHITE PEOPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN..... p.s. To Dimitri, How much you wanna bet, I'll get ripped off again, this time by okrainian Larissa? :) She was the one who said she'd apologize if wrong, remember? :) GIMMEE MAH FUKEN TAPES BACK YOU lying, lazy, stupid, thieving, Okrainian NIGGER ! From alex@usmeds.com Mon Feb 26 01:24 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA23644 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:24:27 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id AAA02857 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02bj for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:56:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Anubis (fwd) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:56:40 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825314200.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5876 Status: RO Forwarded message: > From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:03:19 -0500 > > In article <4febde$fhf@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM > (Anubis) wrote: > > > In article ,Gorilka > > wrote: > > >In article <4fdtls$r2c@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, buri@probe2.phys.ualberta.ca > >(Michael Burianyk) wrote: > > > >Finally, as I understand it, Larisa was asked to be a moderator. This > > >speaks well of her reputation on the 'net with just about everyone but you. > > > >I hope, it wouldn't be too rude to ask who did ask Larisa (or others) to > > >be moderator(s). Sorry, this seems to be kept secret so I wonder if you > > >will be willing to enlight me. > > > > Peter Vorobieff addressed this question already. Please check earlier on > > in this thread - Monday or Tuesday, I think it was. > > > > Larisa, I checked my server for P. Vorobieff's articles. I found 18 of > them, sometimes 5 copies of the same article. There is no indication on > the answer WHO exactly asked him or you or others to be moderators. > Perhaps, I overlooked it or it is no longer on my server or may be you > mistaken. Would you mind posting an answer for this simple question? I > heard from your argument with Max that you keep extensive diskette archive > of the usenet articles, so it should be easy for you. > > Thanks in advance. > > Gorilka > ........................................................................ > > MY, MY, MY...... > > WHAT HAVE WE HERE ? > > A "THINKING" SOVOK EH ? :) > > (OR AT LEAST ONE WHO, SEES THE OCCASIONAL NEURONAL PASSAGE :) > > THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTANT AND THE *ONLY* SOVIET ANIMAL > > TO *THINK* A LITTLE BIT AND *ASK* THESE VERY *BASIC* AND *VERY* *OBVIOUS* > (TO A WESTERNER ANYWAY) > > QUESTIONS......AND TO DO SO IN A POLITE -UNUSUAL FOR YOU- CONSISTANT > > FASHION..... > > I THOUGHT THEY ALL LIKED TO EAT SHIT, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE EAT SHIT > > (preferably more shit if they aren't Russian :) ... > > AND DID WHAT OTHERS (HIGHER AND MORE CHAUVANISTIC -even then you- SOVOKS) > TOLD THEM TO DO AND KEEP THEIR STUPID MOUTHS SHIT > > EXCEPT TO BACK UP AND DEFEND THE OTHER SOVOK SAVAGES AGAINST > > WESTERNERS AND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE FOR ALL > > NATIONALITIES..... > > HMMM........ THE UKRAINIAN CUNT, LARISA STREET(WALK)ER LIED WHEN SHE STATED > (SKIP TO [[[[[[[[[[[ : > > > :LAR > That no one other than yourself, Dragon Fly, and Kagalenko have come out so > : vehemently opposed to my being on the moderator team also speaks volumes, > : Mr. Pyziur. > > Larisa, I'm hardly in collusion with the people who you've mentioned. > This is character assasination on your part. > > : >: >..nor has she as yet been able to implement KOI8 Cyrillic on any of the > : >: >terminals/machines from which she accesses the Internet. > : > > : >: LAR > I admit there was some glitch on my machine which prevented me from doing > : >: so. I am in the process of correcting the situation. > : > > : >More likely than not I would assume that you don't have the abilities > : >to implement any sort of Cyrillic drivers or fonts. The talent required > : >for this is hardly great. > > : LAR > You can assume what you wish. One always must assume, of course, when one > : lacks facts. > > : > ..... > > :LAR > Regarding Mr. Pyziur's diatribe against the ukes list and his heated > > It's hardly a diatribe Larisa. Qualification of posts as "diatribes" is > more appropriate for individuals such as Vulis (in all of his aliases) > and Viznyuk. You are showing your typical poor judgement. > > You had a very critical hand in suppressing open discussion on the first > incarnation of 'ukes'; you had a very critical hand in keeping 'ukes' > submerged and out of view of those you deemed politically incorrect. > That very clearly speaks of discrimination and intolerance. > > :LAR > accusations of my "discrimination and intolerance" of opinions > : contrary to my own.....I will resist the temptation to bog myself and the > : readership down with countering every imputation and correcting each of > : his misstatement. Those who have been reading scu, scs, and scr over the > : course of the last few years know very well that while I do not back away > : from a fight, > > > [[[[[[[[[[[[[ neither do I attempt to stifle my opponents. Never have, > : don't plan to start now. > > THE ABOVE IS A LIE. I KNOW AND CAN PROVE THAT. > (as can the good dr. vulis ) > WHAT IS OCCURING IS A "SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN.MODERATED BY VOROBIEFF AND HIS > FRIENDS" GROUP.... VOTE FOR SOC.CULTURE.MODERATED AND BOARD OF > MODERATORS > ALL AT ONCE..... AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU ... :)) > > IN VERY FINE COMMUNIST TRADITION..... > > YOU RUSSIANS AND YOUR BOARD OF "MODERATORS" ( SOVOK CENSORS:) WILL BE THE > LAUGHING STOCK OF ALL THE SOC.CULTURE*.* GROUPS AND AROUND THE WORLD :)))) > > A CENSOR BOARD OF THE LOWEST RUSSIAN LIARS, ASSHOLES AND THEIR > UKRAINIAN-AMERICAN WHORE...... (WHO CAN'T EVEN SPEAK YOUR SHITTY LANGUAGE, > AND THE BITCH IS TO STUPID TO INSTALL THE FONT FOR YOUR FUCKED UP BULLSHIT > LANGUAGE > BUT CAN TALK AND GET VOTES FROM THE UKRAINIANS .... :) > > I CAN SEE HOW RUSSIANS HATE AND DON'T UNDERSTAND FREE SPEECH AND LIKE > CENSORSHIP ....FOR THEM > IT'S GOOD AND THEY ARE USED TO IT AND THEY DESERVE IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY > BASICALY FOLLOW ASIATIC, MONGOLIAN TRADITIONS AND ARE USED TO HAVING > SOMEONE FROM ABOVE SHIT DOWN ON THEM ANYWAY.... > > MAY YOU "MODERATE-CENSOR" YOURSELF IN SUCH A WAY FOR ALL OF USENET > TO SEE WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY LIKE..... > > SHAME ON YOU RUSSIANS ! > > THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE PROTESTED "MODERATION'' WAS ALEX KATZ FROM AWHILE > AGO...... > > YOU RUSSIANS HAVE LEARNED FUCKING NOTHING, FROM THE CZARS TO LENIN. > > SHAME ON YOU ! > > alex thurston > > > > > > > From alex@usmeds.com Sat Mar 2 20:06 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA00780 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:06:29 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id SAA05958 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02ej for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:48:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Subject: Re: Regarding HENRIETTA Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 16:48:23 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825803303.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1348 Status: RO anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM ROTE: >BTW, regardless of whether or not they're "appropriate" for a potential >moderator of a Russian newsgroup, I'm also not changing my login ID, my >ISP, my newsreader, the oil in my car (did that 1000 miles ago), my hair >color, my bank, my tv-viewing habits, my brand of chewing gum... >-- PERHAPS, THE ISSUE IS IF YOU SHOULDN'T CHANGE YOUR CHARACTER? DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED TO "SUPPRESS" ANYONE, ETC.. ? :) WHAT DID YOU ATTEMPT TO DO TO ME WHEN YOU WENT TO MY Boss eh "STUKACHINA" STREETWALKER? :) THEN LIED ABOUT IT? :) HE....HE..HE... WOULD YOU WANT ME TO PROVE AND POST WHAT A LYING PROSTITUTE AND SNEAKING SHIT YOU ARE? :) >Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com >"Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph >Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just >plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with >the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick BEAT THAT LYING UKE CUNT WITH THE "NEWS" OF HER EVIL,BULLDYKE HENRY. :) AND YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT..... WHY TALK ABOUT STALIN? HE HASN'T STUCK IT UP YOUR STUPID ASS IN AWHILE...... :) HENRY WILL SUCK ANYONE'S DICK, PROVIDED IT'S RUSSIAN AND RED...... BUT HENRY DOES NOT KNOW WHY, DOES HE ? :)))) From alex@usmeds.com Sat Mar 2 20:06 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA00784 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:06:36 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id SAA05961 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02en for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:53:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, hkt@wwa.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu, GIFT@delphi.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, vshir@aol.com, chernia@ibm.net, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Regarding HENRIETTA {this is serious} Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 17:53:01 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825807181.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2442 Status: RO To Henry Thomas: (and others:) In point of fact, Henry... Why shouldn't you also be a candidate for "moderator" ? :) Streetwalker *speaks* as much Russian as you do.... Besides which, there is the character issue for the Uke streetwalker..... she has none..... You, Verbose Mouse (Verbitsky, Misha), streetwalker, *know* to what I am refering.... Besides which, she is, after all, a Uke, and therefore hostile to the expansion of Russia and the reintegration of Ukraine back to where it belongs.... you do not have this difficulty.... Her view of Russian history is opposite of what any good, loyal Russian *knows* to be true. SHE *IS* pro Ukrainian..... SHE *is* a Uke Nationalist.... SHE *is* a prostitute..... Facts are..... that the above, ipso facto, non dubio, that must make her somewhat hostile to Russia and Russian national interests. YOU ARE NOT. :) Peder Whorebreath only choose her , the Uke prostitute, after Sovokin turned it (moderatorship) down.... Sovokin's views and Streetwalker's are very different..... Why could you not be placed on the "moderatorship" INFORMAL elections being held by Dr. Vulis ? He listed Whorebreath, even though he is not (he claims) going to do it... You said you would not because of your lack of Russian...... but your name should be listed by Dr. Vulis ANYWAY ! .... you can turn it down but you should be listed....after all, I know of a prostitute who does not speak Russian either :) but at least you *ARE* pro-Russian...sympathetic to Russia... Not like some Uke whores..... Note to Dr. Vulis: Please include that Bull dyke Henry Thomas in your list.... her heart, ass and brain are in the right and same place.....There should be at least 2 bitches in the selection for election....... At least she is not the characterless Ukrainian slut and prostitute that the Uke Nationalist Larisa Streetwalker is.... Nasty shit aside. I believe that it would be the correct thing to do. Between the 2 censorship creatures, it would be better to have Henrietta. Ukraine is Ukraine, and Russia is Russia.... THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE *ONE WOMAN* AT LEAST ON THE SOVOK CENSORSHIP BOARD. A WOMAN'S VIEW.... SOMEONE WHO WOULD TAKE THE JOB OF SOVOK CENSOR SERIOUSLY..... SOMEONE WHO CAN BRING A FRESH, UNBIASED YET A SYMPATHETIC VIEW OF RUSSIA.... NOT A HARDENED UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTE.... Dr. Vulis, please consider placing Thomas on the list.... From alex@usmeds.com Sun Mar 3 12:39 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA25425 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:39:07 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA28069 for verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02f0 for verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:27:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: Henry Thomas Cc: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, GIFT@delphi.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, vshir@aol.com, chernia@ibm.net, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Regarding HENRIETTA {this is serious} Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 11:27:15 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825870435.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2194 Status: RO Henrietta Thomas wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Alex wrote: > > > > > To Henry Thomas: > > (and others:) > > > > In point of fact, Henry... > > > > Why shouldn't you also be a candidate for "moderator" ? :) > > OK, Alex, you finally got a rise out of me. DID YOU ORGASM ? I THOUGHT MY MODEM SHOOK ! WAS IT GOOD FOR YOU ? > > [snip]... intermediate stuff deleted > > > Dr. Vulis, please consider placing Thomas on the list.... > > Please DO NOT put my name on that list. I do not qualify to be moderator > of any Russian group, and would only serve if no one else were available > for the job. There are plenty of good people in this newsgroup who would > be much better than I. > > Henrietta > > Au contraire, my dairy air from the Middle West.... The first requirement to be a Censor is a lack of intellect, ethics and a need to control others... As for the groups to excercise this on: If not the Russians, then surely the Ukrainians ! They like that kind of shit.... it smacks of mint julep in their mouths... It rolls about the tongue so pleasantly for them...... "Hmm! Tastes like shit !" Those censorship animals Bohdanus the First and Larisa the Streetwalker seem to look very forward to the coming censorship of the Russians.... As shit is also subject to Newton's First Law it would appear likely that the Ukrainians then the Baltic Nations will go the same way :) Surely you can "moderate" them ? You surely have more character then would a Ukrainian prostitute, or do you think not ? As for Bohdanus the First, after becoming Prime Masturbator of s.c.u. with Aging Ukrainian Slut Larisa at his side, he would sign a peace treaty and non-agression agreement with Chief Peder and Deputy Cock Sucker Smirnov of soc.culture.russia..... Well..... we all know what would happen not long afterwards.... hordes of sovoks, homosexuals, Ukrainian whores, the most ignorant, underfucked, dumbest cunts from the darkest villages of the Mid West would overrun the rest of the soc. culture heirarchy..... A new dark age would ensue..... And monitors..." all over the world will grow dark..... .... and we shall not see them lit again in our time." :) From alex@usmeds.com Sun Mar 3 12:39 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA25425 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:39:07 -0500 Received: (medin@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA28069 for verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02f0 for verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:27:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: medin set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: Henry Thomas Cc: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, GIFT@delphi.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, vshir@aol.com, chernia@ibm.net, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Regarding HENRIETTA {this is serious} Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 11:27:15 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <825870435.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2194 Status: RO Henrietta Thomas wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Alex wrote: > > > > > To Henry Thomas: > > (and others:) > > > > In point of fact, Henry... > > > > Why shouldn't you also be a candidate for "moderator" ? :) > > OK, Alex, you finally got a rise out of me. DID YOU ORGASM ? I THOUGHT MY MODEM SHOOK ! WAS IT GOOD FOR YOU ? > > [snip]... intermediate stuff deleted > > > Dr. Vulis, please consider placing Thomas on the list.... > > Please DO NOT put my name on that list. I do not qualify to be moderator > of any Russian group, and would only serve if no one else were available > for the job. There are plenty of good people in this newsgroup who would > be much better than I. > > Henrietta > > Au contraire, my dairy air from the Middle West.... The first requirement to be a Censor is a lack of intellect, ethics and a need to control others... As for the groups to excercise this on: If not the Russians, then surely the Ukrainians ! They like that kind of shit.... it smacks of mint julep in their mouths... It rolls about the tongue so pleasantly for them...... "Hmm! Tastes like shit !" Those censorship animals Bohdanus the First and Larisa the Streetwalker seem to look very forward to the coming censorship of the Russians.... As shit is also subject to Newton's First Law it would appear likely that the Ukrainians then the Baltic Nations will go the same way :) Surely you can "moderate" them ? You surely have more character then would a Ukrainian prostitute, or do you think not ? As for Bohdanus the First, after becoming Prime Masturbator of s.c.u. with Aging Ukrainian Slut Larisa at his side, he would sign a peace treaty and non-agression agreement with Chief Peder and Deputy Cock Sucker Smirnov of soc.culture.russia..... Well..... we all know what would happen not long afterwards.... hordes of sovoks, homosexuals, Ukrainian whores, the most ignorant, underfucked, dumbest cunts from the darkest villages of the Mid West would overrun the rest of the soc. culture heirarchy..... A new dark age would ensue..... And monitors..." all over the world will grow dark..... .... and we shall not see them lit again in our time." :) From alex@usmeds.com Sun Mar 10 18:03 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA02354 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:03:34 -0500 Received: (hpg40@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id RAA05625 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02h3 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 16:24:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: hpg40 set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, vshir@aol.com, GIFT@delphi.com, bohdan@panix.com, grycar@aol.com, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: Re: Russia is the enema Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 16:24:13 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <826493053.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2362 Status: RO In article <314307F8.4845@ezdial.com> you wrote: >Henrietta Thomas wrote: > >> You want somebody to defend Peter? Here I am. If Peter says he is >> Russian, he is Russian, as far as I'm concerned. Why don't you ask Dragon >> how he came to this country and got into Ohio State? >> Henrietta > > >Dear Henrietta, > >So you say that Dung Fly goes to Ohio State? Are you sure? >Such a smart boy, I would think that with his smarts he >would be in Harvard or Yale. Such a waste of talent. >And Peter, also such a nice boy, and you defending him, >how nice. Are you two planning anything together. You >would be such a nice couple. But I hear that you might >have to reform him first. Hee Hee, Good luck. > >Regards, Dan K. What's the Vhorebreath Sovok's homosexuality have to do with anything anyway Dan ? Henry Thomas and Vhorebreath have far more in common in terms of their minds and reasoning anyway.... It's wrong to joke about a person's sexual orientation anyway...I hope you weren't doing that. Many people in the KGB and their informant's were homosexual and that did not prevent them from doing a fine job till the very end.... In fact Peder V. was reported to be a informant in Sovok and on Usenet by: Alexplore, Alex Iatkovsky, Vlad Petersen, Sergey Vizniuk, Dr. Vulis and many others... His homosexuality is not the issue here...In fact, he has traveled widely in Sovok, during the time of the Sovok Union.... VERY WIDELY INDEED WITH HIS INTERNAL PASSPORT.....as has been pointed out by more then a few Ukrainians and Russians... Mr. Petersen and Mr. Iatkovsky are against Peder's attempting to create a Net Sovok Union censored by Peder and his pure bred sovok friends... Ukrainian prostitutes, naive, not very bright, ignorant Americans, etc..... I am not sure but I hope your (Dan's) last statement is not taken as anti-gay.... I hope that you are not against Gay folks just because many of them were in the KGB and were actively recruited for their sensitivities and skills.... I have to be VERY CAREFUL here because there is someone with the last initial T. who has thretened to go to my postmaster and denounce me. ( No, it's not a sovok.) Not for a posting, but for private e-mail..... A very soviet, and criminal type person..... very friendly with a person who has been a informant in the past..... B E W A R E ! From alex@usmeds.com Fri Mar 15 13:48 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA19775 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:48:16 -0500 Received: (magestic@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA15166 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02is for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:37:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: magestic set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: hkt@wwa.com, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, bohdan@panix.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, anubis@starbase.neosoft.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com Subject: Re: Henrietta speaks her mind was: Sovokin speaks his mind Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:37:24 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <826904244.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 9227 Status: RO In article <4ib609$a1u@kirin.wwa.com> you wrote: >Dan K. (dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com) wrote: >: Henrietta Thomas wrote: > >[snip]... > >: >: > I plead guilty of being anti-American for having made numerous statements >: >in contradiction to official US foreign policy. > >: To disagree with US foreign policy is one thing, to agree with the foreign >: policy of a foreign country that has a history of intending to destroy the >: United States and the independence and sovereignty of other countries is >: something altogether different. Or are you not able to differentiate >: between the two? NO, HENRY BULL-DYKER IS NOT ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE. > >Russia has never sought to "destroy" the United States or any other >country in the world. The Soviet Union never really "intended" to destroy >any nation, either. WHAT WERE ALL THOSE DEPORTATIONS ABOUT THEN ? RESETTLEMENTS ? LANGUAGE BANS ? EVEN AS LATE AS THE FINNO-RUSSO WAR BEFORE WWII, YOU HAD PARENTS KILLED AND THE YOUNG WERE TAKEN TO RUSSIAN ORPANAGES AND GIVEN RUSSIAN NAMES...... UKRAINIANS WERE USED EXTENSIVELY IN SIBERIA ETC..... YOU KNOW, OF THE GENOCIDE OF '32-33. WHY WERE SO MANY PLACE NAMES IN SIBERIA GIVEN THE NAME ENDING OF "OSTROG" ? ITS SAID THAT THE REASONS YOU HAVE SO MANY ALASKAN NATIVES IN ALASKA WAS BECAUSE OF THE US BUYING IT FROM THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE.... > All they did was try to keep up with the arms race >because they were just as afraid of us as we were of them. The Cold War >was good propaganda for both sides. > WHAT A SIMPLISTIC, DUMB CUNT YOU ARE..... HOW DO YOU ANALYSE RAPE ? BEING GREETED WITH A FRIENDLY WEAPON ? >: > And what do you know about Soviet ideology and/or propaganda? MUCH MORE THEN YOU, YOU STUPID, UGLY OLD CUNT.... You and >: > your friends are posting a lot of Cold War rhetoric here and I, for one, >: > resent it. FUCK YOU. The Cold War is over. It's time to get to know each other as >: > human beings. IT'S NOT OVER TILL HENRY THOMAS SINGS ! IT'S NOT OVER TILL US SECURITY ANALYSTS AND EX-SECRETARYS OF STATE LIKE HENRY KISSINGER, ZBIGNIEW BREZHINSKI ETC..... BECOME AS SMART AS YOU HENRY.... > >: You silly girl, the atrocities which the Russians are commiting in Chechnya >: are not from the Cold War, it is happening today or are you so busy on the >: net that you no longer pay attention to what is happening in the world? > >Nobody really knows what is happening in Chechnya today. OH? CNN WAS LYING THEN ? TELL US ALL THE TRUTH THEN YOU DUMB CUNT ? Most of the news >reports are based on hearsay or what the Russian government says. It will >be a long time before all the truth really comes out. And if you want to >argue "atrocities," I would imagine both sides were/are involved. Let me >tell you a little story I just read in Russian Life: YOU READ THAT SHIT ? This lady from the >Committee of Soldiers' Mothers went to Chechnya to retrieve her son from >Chechen captivity. She had to practically commit a sit-in strike until >they finally let her see her son. But they still would not let her and >her son leave until she had viewed the corpses of Russian soldiers they >had killed. YOUR INTERPRETATION IS FUCKED UP LIKE YOUR BRAIN. THEY WANTED THE BITCH TO SEE THE HORRORS OF WAR... THAT **RUSSIAN** KIDS ARE DYING, NOT JUST CHECHENS..... SHE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO TELL THIS TO EVERYONE..... YOU MAKE IT SOUND AS THOUGH CHECHENS ARE GUILTY OF SAVAGERY.... ON WHOSE TURF WERE THOSE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS ANYWAY, THOMAS ? DO YOU REMEMBER OR DID YOU JUST FORGET AGAIN ? It is a very unhappy situation for all parties concerned, and >should not be used as a political football for you to score points in >this newsgroup. SHOULD IT BE IGNORED BECAUSE SOME DUMB, HALF- BLIND, OVERWEIGHT, IGNORANT, BULL-DYKER, MARRIED TO A WIMP WANTS THE WORD TOO ? :) (SEEMS, YOU AND THE MOST FUCKED UP SOVOKS HAVE MUCH IN COMMON) > >: And the political platforms of Russia's politicians are not from cold war >: days, stupid, they are running to be Russia's future president and it is >: they who want to restart the Cold War by undermining their neighbor's new >: freedom and want to revive the Evil Russian Empire. > >Most of that is rhetoric which will never come true. HOW DO YOU KNOW ? PERHAPS, YOU SHOULD INFORM THE PENTAGON, CONTINGENCY PLANNING IS TAKING PLACE HERE AND IN WESTERN EUROPE. WHAT IS IT YOU KNOW THAT NO ONE ELSE DOES ? DIDN'T IT OCCUR TO YOU, THAT WHILE YELTISIN WAS PUMPING SEMEN IN YOUR ANXIOUSLY GRATEFUL MOUTH, THAT HE WAS LYING TO YOU SO THAT YOU WOULD SPREAD, WHAT THEY CALL "DISINFORMATION" TO USENET ? And besides, there >never was such a thing as "the Evil Russian Empire." The phrase "evil >empire" was a joke made by Ronald Reagan. A JOKE ? EVERYONE BUT YOU THOUGHT HE WAS SERIOUS....... > You are just engaging in more >silly rhetoric here. YOU MUST BE A VERY SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED OLD TRAMP...... > >: Like I said: >: > : It is quite obvious to all who read the posts here >: > : that all of the Sovoks, who are rabidly anti-Ukrainian, like >: > : Tereshchenko, Korolev, Dung Fly, you and a few otheres, are indeed >: > : also anti-American in philosophy and opposition to U.S. foreign >: > : policy. > >To you and your friends, maybe, but not to all. > >: > I repeat: Where is the law that says one must be pro-American? Or >: > pro-Ukrainian? Or pro-anything, for that matter? WHY DON'T YOU GET LAYED, HENRY ? > >: Who is talking about laws, we are talking about foreigners who come to the >: US and propagate propaganda which is supportive of foreign political >: parties whose political agendas are the destruction of the Free World and >: America. But I guess that you are not able to see that. > >You and Lyndon LaRouche would make a marvelous couple. Have you read his >article in another thread about the conspiracy to destroy America? > >[snip]... > >: > Your contempt is so obvious, I don't understand why you bother to read >: > s.c.r. Why don't you go to soc.culture.usa and get involved in some >: > of the arguments there, since you are such a great American? > YOU SHOULD BE GIVEN THE POWER TO SEND SUCH FOLKS LIKE DAN K. TO SIBERIA....OR EXECUTE HIM......KEEP TELLING HIM AND OTHERS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T WRITE HERE BECAUSE HE HAS MORE DATA THEN YOU.... DON'T YOU THINK THAT MANY OF YOUR PROBLEMS COULD BE SOLVED WITH A VIBRATOR ? >: I believe that this and most posts here at scu are crossposted, Henrietta. >: I have an interest in posting here as I have friends in Ukraine and they >: want their country to be free, prosperous and democratic without >: interference from Russia. They wish, I might add, the same for Russia, >: as do I. > >Three suggestions: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, YOU IGNORANT, STUPID, SCHOOL TEACHER CUNT FROM THE MID WEST, TO CONTINUALLY SUGGEST SHIT TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MUCH MORE THEN YOU AND CAN THINK IN A LOGICAL, ETHICAL MANNER ? HAVE YOUR HUSBAND GET A PENILE IMPLANT.... GET A SONY "DEEP MUSCLE MASSAGER", IT LOOKS LIKE A COMPACT JACKHAMMER.... THAT'LL HOLD YOU TILL THE NEXT POWER OUTAGE.... > >If your friends are ethnic Ukrainians, arrange for them to get some >connections to this newsgroup so they can speak for themselves. > >If you wish Russia to be "free, prosperous and democratic," you should >stop bashing her and her people. > >Leave Vladimir Sorokin alone. WHY NOT TELL SOVOKIN TO STOP BEING SUCH A IMPERIALISTIC, GENOCIDAL, ANTI-AMERICAN, COMMUNIST, ACADEMIC FRAUD, FORGER, LIAR, SOVOK SUCK ASS AND I AM QUITE SURE THAT DAN K. WOULD NOT NOTICE YOUR SOVOKIN AT ALL..... DID YOU KNOW THAT ''SIMVLAD" UNCOVERED THAT HIS SUPPOSED WIFE "OLENA", WHO USED TO POST TO UKES SOCIAL, DIDN'T EXIST AT ALL ? :))) THAT HIS *REAL* WIFE, MARINA NEVER POSTS ? :))) HOW HE SAID, AFTER BEING FOUND OUT ABOUT "OLENA" SOVOKINA, HE LIED AND SAID *MARINA* SOVOKINA, JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE THE SAME NAME AND HAPPENS TO BE FROM THE SAME CITY OF KHARKIV ? :))) REMARKABLE COINCIDENCE THEY MEET IN UNIV. OF KY EH ? :)) WHY DOES SOVOKIN ALWAYS GO TO THE UKE GROUPS AND FUCK WITH THEM ? AND YOU TELL DAN K. TO SHUT UP ? :))) >Henrietta > >************************************************************************ >"Russia wants a political representation, and guaranties of what are >called the fundamental rights of individuality; i.e., freedom of belief >and of speech, the right of association and of public meetings, liberty >of the press, a strict regime of law, and the free course of justice.... > ----Paul Miliukov, 1905, in "Russia and Its Crisis" >************************************************************************ > > IF RUSSIA WANTED FREEDOM AND CAPITALISM THE WAY HENRY THOMAS WANTED A RED DICK TO SUCK, YOU WOULDN'T BE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS, WOULD YOU ? NOTE TO DAN K. MR. K, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND, AS TO POST FOR ME, THE COPYRIGHT VIOLATION BY SOVOKIN ON U OF KY COMPUTERS.... BY THE ACADEMICLY HONEST SOVOKIN.....I'LL BE HAPPY TO FORWARD A COPY OF IT TO THE VARIOUS ADMINISTRATORS AT HIS SCHOOL AND TIME MAGAZINE, INS, UNLESS OF COURSE, HENRY THOMAS THE BULL DYCKER THINKS I AM A LYING SOVOK ? :)))) WELL THOMAS ?? YES OR NO ?? POST IT ? OR DO NOT POST IT ? :))))) EVEN THE LYING STREETWALKER NO LONGER DEFENDS HIM ..... HOW ABOUT YOU ? :) ALEX From alex@usmeds.com Wed Mar 20 14:15 EST 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA19183 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:15:28 -0500 Received: (magestic@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA06692 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02mj for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:30:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: uucp.intac.com: magestic set sender to alex@usmeds.com using -f From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: ftereshc@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, dfly@infinet.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, vshir@aol.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: Re: Jurassic perehodit na lichnosti Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:30:02 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <827346602.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1022 Status: RO In article <4ik3tk$pnc@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> you wrote: >In article <4i9pq9$gun@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>, >Yury Mukharsky wrote: >>In article , >> manin@camelot.mssm.edu (Dmitrii Manin) wrote: >>< >> muh@physics.berkeley.edu >>(Yury Mukharsky) writes: >>< >>>< >>> >>Shame on you. >> >>Yury >> >And he tryed to harass me. > >Feodor > > THIS IS A PUBLIC LIE ! *YOU* TRIED TO HARASS *ME* ! IN THE ASS ! YOU TRIED TO SET UP A MEETING WITH ME ! YOU ARE AN AGGRESSIVE SOVIET HOMOSEXUAL, "PEDER SOVOK" ! IF YOU DO NOT LEAVE ME ALONE I'LL TELL ! EVERBODY IN YOUR SCHOOL AND THE MOTHER OF EVERY SMALL BOY ON EVERY FARM IN IOWA WILL KNOW *ALL* ABOUT YOU ! DO NOT WRITE TO ME ! ABOUT ME ! LEAVE ME ALONE ! I AM HETEROSEXUAL ! I DON'T WANT YOU ! cc: TO WITNESSES A.T. From alex@usmeds.com Fri Apr 12 00:59 EDT 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA28662 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:59:50 -0400 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id AAA27036 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02us for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:25:06 -0400 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, dfly@infinet.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.ed, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, urjlew@gibbs.oit.unc.edu, simon1@bu.edu, grycar@aol.com, bohdan@panix.com, er86@dial.pipex.com Subject: LARISA STREET(WALK)ER : FREE BLOW JOBS FOR SOVOKS ! Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:25:02 -0400 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <829283102.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 8737 Status: RO Wiping alot of programs and soviet-shit off my systems.... Disinfuck-ion as it were..... What do you think ? Should I have posted the below when the Verbitsky Sovok and Larisa Street(walk)er woke me up and began to fuck with me, back in Jan of the Winter of '96 ? Naturally, as it is said, "payback is a bitch...." Of-course, it explains, in some small part, my semi-sincere loathing for the above.... To late now, I should think.... Que lastima! Should have posted it to the sovok groups on relcom and Baltics, Ukes, Russians, soviets etc...... Became annoyed at the aforementioned stupid sovok and aforementioned aging ex-prostitute when someone, heh, heh, e-'dresed a copy of their below, low post..... most annoying.... at the time anyway.... someone knew it would wake and provoke me ..... :} Hmmm ...... To: alex Subject: Re: Alleged falsification of visa application by Igor Chudov, contractor to Wilt From: ZZZ@ZZZZZ (Dr. Zzzzz) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 20:38:55 EST In-Reply-To: <4bpt63$pkk@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Organization:ZZ TOP, N.Y. Content-Length: 3591, mo' o' less.... Content-Lines: 75 Status: R Path: perun!news2.panix.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!paperboy.osf.org!bone.think.com!sdd.hp.co m!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.C OM!not-for-mail From: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Alleged falsification of visa application by Igor Chudov, contractor to Wiltel Message-ID: <4bpt63$pkk@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Date: 26 Dec 1995 16:32:35 -0600 References: <4binjg$fm6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4bip5c$71s@decaxp.harvard.edu> <4bk7ia$elm@panix.com> <4bkaer$btl@decaxp.harvard.edu> Organization: Inferno Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com In article <4bkaer$btl@decaxp.harvard.edu>, Yulya Fridman wrote: >....... >One of the Lord's worst jokes was creation >of the people deprived of sense of humour. >Had you ever seen Pruss, you wouldn't have >any doubts concerning his origin. > >Here goes the full story of the "anti-Semitic" ^^^^^^^^^^ >joke you've mentioned: > >from http://www.math.harvard.edu:/~verbit/cranks.html > >

  • What happened with Dmitry Pruss.

    • > .....[article snipped]..... While I applaud efforts to provide people with all the facts (ie, tell the whole story), I disagree that what you have posted is the "most accurate" story possible here. Unfortunately, there are quite a few remarks in the narrative that are just plain conjecture and/or personal opinion/value judgement. These, at least IMO, make it all too easy for those who doubt you *or* the story to challange the objectivity and veracity of what you have transcribed. I urge you to consider revising certain portions of the text [which I found at /cranks-FAQ.html] so that the article focuses more on facts rather than opinions. Two examples follow: One: >...[Alex] Thurston, a. k. a Alexplore, is an Ukrainian nationalist > perpetuating the worst stereotypes of anti-Semite Ukrainians. He's > alive with inbred hate of all things Jewish (most of his articles are > filled with anti-Semitic slurs, and he usually ranted against the > ``minipulative'' Sovoks...... Thurston is no "Ukrainian nationalist." Although at first he did present himself as such, it became quite clear very quickly that that claim was as false as his name. I AM FOR MORE LEGAL THEN YOU, YOU LYING PROSTITUTE "ANUBIS". WANNA PUT SOME YANQUI $$$ ON IT YOU SLUT ? The man despised all things "Soviet" - not just things Jewish. "..not just things Jewish..." OH ? WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING SLUT ? YOU HAVE A POST OF MINE TO PROVE OR IMPLY THIS I TAKE IT ? THAT IS ; A _*COMPLETE* - IN - IT'S - *ENTIRETY* - *POST* OF *MINE* ? NOT A LINE TAKEN OUT OF IT'S CONTEXT BUT A *COMPLETE* POST. (LIKE I SHOWED, OF YOUR SOVIET REVANCHIST, ANTI-SEMITE, PRO-GENOCIDE "JOKER" BUDDY, GOOFING - OFF ON GOV'T TIME AND ILLEGALLY POSTING SOVIET REUNION SHIT AND GENOCIDE "JOKES" ON FEDERAL COMPUTERS DURING HIS "WORKING TIME" FROM US GOV'T NAT. INST. OF HEALTH BY THE VERY SOVIET "DR." DIMITRI PRU(SS) ?? A Ukrainian nationalist typically exhibits at least *some* love of country/culture. Thurston never exhibited either knowledge of or affection for things Ukrainian nor did I ever see him promote positive aspects of Ukrainian culture, as a Ukrainian nationalist would typically do. So Thurston may well have been an anti-Semite, but the label "Ukrainian nationalist" is most certainly inappropriate. " So Thurston may well have been an anti-Semite..." SO STREETER MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A CHILD MOLESTER, WHO GRABBED AT THE LITTLE THINGIES OF HER UNDERAGE NEIGHBOR'S CHILDREN.... LET THE AUTHORITIES AND EVERYONE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS BE INFORMED OF THE ACCUSED CHILD MOLESTER IN THIER MIDST ! .....AND THAT IS WHY SHE HAD TO LEAVE SAN FRANCISCO AND MOVE TO THE BARRIO IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.... OTHER SHIT I CAN IGNORE. NOT THIS. NOT BY A FUCKING LYING/DEVIOUS/CHARACTERLESS STREET(WALK)ER AND CHILD MOLESTER LIKE YOU. AND, UNLIKE YOU, A DEVIOUS TWO FACED SLUT, WHO LIKES TO PLAY MISSIONARY AND DOES MISSIONARY LEG SPREADING TO THE MOST SOVIET OF SOVIET SAVAGES.... ANTI-SEMITES, LIKE : DIMITRI "I HAVE SUDDENLY DISCOVERED I AM A JEW, SO PLEASE DON'T PUNISH ME FOR HOLACAUST JOKES" PRUSS, GENOCIDAL APOLOGISTS/SOVIET REVANCHISTS, LIKE : BORIS VEYTSMAN, VLADIMIR SOROKIN, EDWARD PONARIN, M. VERBITSKY, PEDER VOROBIEFF I CAN PROVE MY WORDS. YOU DON'T LIKE ME. I AM GENEROUS. THAT CAN BE FORGIVEN. YOU CALLED ME A FUCKING ANTI-SEMITE. .....AND IMPLIEDLY, A FAN OF GENOCIDE. YOU FUCKED UP BIG TIME. THAT CAN *NOT* BE FORGIVEN WITH THE ABOVE NAMED AND PROVABLE ANTI-SEMITIC, GENOCIDAL, SCUM AND SOVIET RIF RIF..... YOU CHARGE AT THEIR DICKS WITH YOUR MOUTH OPEN AND BROWN/GREEN TEETH VISIBLE...... YOU SUCK THE SHIT OFF OF THE LITTLE, LYING, FLACID HEADS.... OF THOSE SOVIET PRICKS.... VERY DEMOCRATIC OF YOU...... AND LIKE YOUR BUDDY VERBITSKY, AUTHOR OF SUCH FINE POSTS AS "UKRAINIAN AND BALTIC SUBHUMANS" ADVOCATING GENOCIDE OF, AS HE PUTS IT NON-RUSSIAN "UNTERMENCHEN", LIKE CHECHENS ETC..... AND PROPOSING THIS A *NUMBER* OF TIMES...... DO YOUR CUNT HAIRS STIFFEN WITH DELIGHT AT THIS ? AND HE REWARDS YOUR SUPPORT OF HIS LYING ATTACK ON ME, AMERICA AND AMERICANS , WITHOUT EVEN GIVING YOU A KISS..... JUST KEEP ON SUCKING SOVOK COCK, STREETER, I FIGURE YOU LIKE IT BECAUSE A HARDENED, FRIGID, EX-PROSTITUTE, WHO MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A CHILD MOLESTER, LIKE YOURSELF KNOWS THERE IS NO DANGER OF CHOKING ON THEIR FLACCID LITTLE MEMBERS.... ISN'T THAT WHY YOU FEEL SO SAFE WITH THEM ? THE "WHITE QUEEN" OF SOC.CULTURE.SOVOK EH ? :) Two: > ...Americans, with their love of snitching, immediately fell for this > provocation and wrote to NIH demanding Pruss's immediate removal. I submit to you that those "Americans" who compained to the NIH did so out of outrage against anti-semitism or out of sheer cluelessness rather than any sort of "love of snitching." STREETER, YOU JUST LIKE TO SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND “SUBMIT” TO ANYTHING , PROVIDED IT ISN'T WESTERN OR INTELLIGENT..... KEEP SUCKING. KEEP "SUBMITTING". FWIW. -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick YOU SHOULD HAVE A ROLLED -UP NEWSPAPER (THE NEW YORK TIMES - SUNDAY EDITION) SMACKED UP YOUR BIG CUNT. DO SOME "KAGLE" EXERCISES. XXXXXXXXXXXXXprev. e-'dress to old, childless, barren, frigid, Larisa Street-snatch-er From alex Sat Dec 30 21:56:22 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 01sa for alex; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:56:22 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, vshir@aol.com, bohdan@panix.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, grycar@aol.com, voronka@hertz.njit.edu Subject: you were told to leave me alone and not fuck with me, weren't you? Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:56:03 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <820378563.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 175 Content-Lines: 14 Status: R You wrote: The man despised all things "Soviet" - not just things Jewish. and So Thurston may well have been an anti-semite, ......... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXend........... From alyosha@vnet.ibm.com Tue Jun 18 00:13 EDT 1996 Received: from service.agate.net (service.agate.net [199.191.1.2]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05579; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alex.sdi.agate.net (alex.sdi.agate.net [204.117.9.156]) by service.agate.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA18729; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606180409.AAA18729@service.agate.net> X-Sender: alex@agate.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis-Prostitute) From: ALYOSHA Subject: Re: Swan Lake - The Zone Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, dfly@infinet.com, alex@usmeds.com, dlv@dm.com, vshir@aol.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu, vizitei@aol.com, FRIMERLV@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, aburshte@sas.upenn.edu, alex@math.upenn.edu, ask@netcom.com, borisv@ctron.com, delitsin@geology.wisc.edu, egokman@lehman.com, frimerlv@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu, paul@arizona.edu, ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov, pv02@lehigh.edu, ruten@delphi.com, AT@abel.math.harvard.edu, SLUVCA.SLU.EDU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU, simon@bu.edu, simon@cq1.bu.edu, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu, zeleny@math.ucla.edu, alex@selway.umt.edu, alyosha@clark.net, amodel@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu, aria@acsu.buffalo.edu, cve@tiamat.umich.umd.edu, d-glinberg@nwu.edu, demya001@maroon.tc.umn.edu, dglin@merle.acns.pwu.edu, dvv@SPRINTLINK.NET, genyuk@math.ohio-state.edu, gnovak@atl1.america.net, gorelik@merle.acns.nwu.edu, iak@umlinfo.unl.edu, igor@che.rochester.edu, igor@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, ilberlin@ellis.uchicago.edu, ivin@aquila.eecs.berkeley.edu, kisa@expert.purdue.edu, kosinov@ceg.uinc.edu, landsberg@sbhep.physics.sunysb.edu, leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu, lvovich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, mae2@lns62.lns.cornell.edu, mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu, mestechr@vnet.ibm.com, mfligenko@aol.com, mikhail@cis.ksu.edu, misha@vm.temple.edu, olegk@psg.com, petr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, rkostin@quaver.urbana.mcd.edu, sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu, sergei@mk.ibek.com, sizraile@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, vadik@cs.umd.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 900 Status: RO In article <4q48h4$7v@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM says... > >This is a review of one of the movies I saw at the Houston Museum of Fine >Arts last Friday...... > > >"Swan Lake - The Zone" >- directed by Yuri Illiyenko, 1990, 96 minutes > http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/plore.scs DONOS ! STUKACHINA ! SVOLOCH ! KURVA ! PROSTITUTKA ! -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick From alex@alex.sdi.agate.net Wed Jun 19 22:45 EDT 1996 Received: from service.agate.net (service.agate.net [199.191.1.2]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02689 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alex.sdi.agate.net (alex.sdi.agate.net [204.117.9.156]) by service.agate.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA25081; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606200243.WAA25081@service.agate.net> To: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, dfly@infinet.com, alex@usmeds.com, dlv@dm.com, vshir@aol.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Newsgroups: alt.current-events.ukraine,alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.soviet,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.cyberspace,alt.wired,news.admin.censorship,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,misc.activism,alt.journalism,pgh.freenet,news.admin.misc Subject: I Stand Accused of "E-Mail Sexual Harrasment"!!! Distribution: Homo Sapien, Homo Sovieticus From: alex@agate.net (a) X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 13336 Status: RO Headlines from the next issue of The Bangor Daily News: Customer of Agate Net of Bangor, Maine; is Accused of "E-mail Sexual Harrasment"! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Backwoods Of Rural Maine Rocked Over By News Of Hard Core E-mail Sex ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In Quiet, Tranquil, Bucolic Town ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Town Of East Corinth To Hold Prayer Meetings And Gatherings At Gas Station ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and Yankee Sur-Fine Grocer! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tim Strout and Don Chesley of Local True Value Hardware Store say: " He didn't seem like that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ kind!" ^^^^ Penobscot County Sherriff's Dept. Announces They Have Things Under Control And Are Ready To ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Close In On E-mail Sex Pervert!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Larisa Streeter(anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM) of Houston, Texas called up my rural ISP in Bangor, Maine (a backwoodsy type area far from the United States of America), and got them to cancel my account for a day!!!!!.... She said that my little E-mail was "sexual harrasment"!! I have never been shown *what* she E-mailed to Agate Net, nor given the *name* of who called to decry my "sexual harrasment", nor told what he/she/it said, other that being told by Justin, the Office Manager, that "...someone said you had 'sexually harrased' someone by E-mail." !!! By E-mail no less! I was never *directly* told *who* was my accuser, Male? Female? It? Two or more of the above? What? Nor was I so much as given a copy of it! And do recall, I AM OUT HERE IN MAINE, ( It’s summer) NOT IN SACRED NEW JERSEY! I do believe that she felt merely insulted. I did *not* ***proposition*** her.... There was no: ".....c'mon sweet baby, give it here to Papa, yum! yum! yum! uummm...... ah! ah! ah! arouggGGGG!!! ahhhhhhhh!!!!!" Nor anything of that nature..... Streeter: In your psychotic, pre-menopausal, ammenorrheic dreams you fat, slovenly beast! I DO believe that one has to be somewhat, if only mildly, sexually attracted/stimulated to someone to wish and long for the pleasures of E-mail sex. I assumed (quite correctly as it turned out) that it was that disgusting, pro-censorship, anti-American, pro-Sovok/Soviet, Ukrainian woman, born in an Argentine bordello, Grand High Censor of Russian Kulture [ see: soc.culture.russian.moderated(sovok) ], called Larisa Street(walk)er from Houston, TX. I merely, gave 5 *UKRAINIAN* words, and a http//WWW page address and reference.... She called up and claimed who knows what else besides? I for one will never know.... For I am merely another victim of the E-SLUT. The staff and Agate Net, instead of responding politely and suggesting a attorney and offering her the phone numbers to the local police, and politely tell her to get fucked, not waste their time, immediately must have understood Russian and Ukrainian and other European languages, have quickly read *ALL* 279,985 bytes found in the particular reference WWW page of Verbitsky at Harvard University. Hmmm..... she will be punished for this.....through other providers...... Did you know she slyly implied/stated that I was an "anti-Semite" etc...?!!! Just like a lousy Soviet/Sovok to attempt to pin that one me and call me many things....on a *public* USENET posting and sneak around to one of my ISPs, the backwoods one at that..... she's been in Ameri-kk-a a L - O - O - O - G time now. They (Agate Net) cut me off without letting me see or know anything, not even before they examined the E-mail logs, forgery questions, the context of what its about who, where, etc..... Nor did they ask Larisa Street(walk)er if she formally asked me not to E-mail her, or tell it to use a proc kill file. I am also sure no one asked, if she were a customer of Agate Net, and why is she bothering Agate Net or annoying one of *their* customers. In sacred New Jersey or New York, someone like this would have been asked how much does she charge for a blow-job? or "yeah, yeah...so do you want to set-up an account or what?" Or told to go screw itself..... I was expecting/sending some E-mail from XXXXX.net in China for buisness.... The stupid bitch Streeter, panicked the simple country lads at Agate Net, (supposedly a "blue ribbon" freedom of speech site) and annoyed me greatly, I was thinking of calling Julio DeSanctis, a lawyer from New Jersey who now practices in the woods of Bangor, but deceided that I can't be involved to that extent.... Shall I post this? False advertising of "blue ribbon anti-censorship site"? Still, to be fair, it's not Agate Net's fault really..... How that cunning, sly, old, childless, barren and frigid E-slut duped those simple young American Computor Science lads from the country? How she screamed, hollered, "tears in her voice", swinging from hate, anger,cajoling, crooning sweetly, pleading, yelling, yowling, howling, raging, rapidly cycling through all extremes of moods...... "We thought she was having her ....well you know..... her period or something... we never talked to a Ukrainian before you know.....she just wouldn't stop..." Heh! heh! heh! They never experienced a flaming, raging Ukrainian prostitute that didn't get paid before either.... poor innocent lads.... DISGUSTING ! LOW ! NO CLASS AT ALL ! Sort of like Stalinism.......someone makes the "politically correct accusation": 1. "He is against the proletariat!" And "He is an agent of American Imperialism!" or 2. Now "American" (naturalised) Street(smart)er, Grand Sovok Censor Larisa Street(walk)er would say,"...and he sexually harrassed me by E-mail !" {and in all probability: " I felt it right here!" She loudly exclaimed! Then stupidly slid the phone down to rest between her massive sweating, blue veined legs, thinking Agate, would get the idea from hearing the cheap, polyesther rustle of her tent-like dress.... My, my, how that overweight, unhealthy, bepimpled warthog did carry on.....} Under conditions, to which I have agreed, my internet access has been "restored". I am never to E-mail that slut again! (“At least from *our* service, PLEASE!) They don’t want to hear it yeow and meow anymore! It would merely be polite and considerate of me not to subject them to that kind of hysterical Ukrainian bitch shit.... JUSTICE, VIRTUE AND TRUTH HAVE PREVAILED IN AMERICA ! SOVOK/SOVIETS AND ALLIES HAVE BEEN THWARTED ONCE AGAIN ! Larisa Streeter must have had multiple orgasms screaming shrilly at multiple innocent, young, fresh country boys at Agate Net, The large blue veins in her legs must have throbed and swelled! How she panted and panted..... After she had finished using the company phone in a unguarded, unsuspecting co-worker's cubicle, she stealthfully and successfully, skittered and darted, with rather suprisingly quick movements, with a rat-like agility, despite her large, heavy mass and large, pendulous hanging buttocks, into her own cubicle hole..... Once settled, she glanced, through thick glasses, warily about, at last she began to relax... then pulled out the soggy, bright red, formerly brown, grease stained, lunch bag from deep within that she had been using as a tampoon, and flung it into the overfilled trash basket. It landed, with a "gloup" sound..... there was an old condom, erroded by the strong acids, slowly, reluctantly obeying the law of gravity, despite the colloidal chemistry of congealed blood and mucosal pus.... She reached over and grabbed at the bag of donuts on her, slovenly desk and began to eat... Larisa Streeter (Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com), the foremost poster of soc.culture.ukrainian, felt happy..... Full text of "sexual" (lustful? Illicitly delightful pleasure?!) "harassment" found between XXXX's : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis-Prostitute) Subject:Re: Swan Lake - The Zone Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com,dfly@infinet.com,alex@usmeds.com,dlv@dm.com,vshir@aol.com,grycar @aol.com,verbit@math.harvard.edu,vizitei@aol.com,FRIMERLV@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, aburshte@sas.upenn.edu, alex@math.upenn.edu,ask@netcom.com, borisv@ctron.com, delitsin@geology.wisc.edu,egokman@lehman.com, frimerlv@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu, paul@arizona.edu, ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov,pv02@lehigh.edu, ruten@delphi.com, AT@math.harvard.edu,SLUVCA.SLU.EDU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU, simon@bu.edu, simon@cq1.bu.edu,verbit@math.harvard.edu, zeleny@math.ucla.edu, alex@selway.umt.edu,alyosha@clark.net, amodel@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu, aria@acsu.buffalo.edu,cve@tiamat.umich.umd.edu, d-glinberg@nwu.edu,demya001@maroon.tc.umn.edu, dglin@merle.acns.pwu.edu,dvv@SPRINTLINK.NET, genyuk@math.ohio-state.edu,gnovak@atl1.america.net, gorelik@merle.acns.nwu.edu,iak@umlinfo.unl.edu, igor@che.rochester.edu, igor@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,ilberlin@ellis.uchicago.edu, ivin@aquila.eecs.berkeley.edu, kisa@expert.purdue.edu, kosinov@ceg.uinc.edu,landsberg@sbhep.physics.sunysb.edu, leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu, lvovich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, mae2@lns62.lns.cornell.edu,mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu, mestechr@vnet.ibm.com, mfligenko@aol.com,mikhail@cis.ksu.edu, misha@vm.temple.edu, olegk@psg.com,petr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, rkostin@quaver.urbana.mcd.edu, sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu, sergei@mk.ibek.com,sizraile@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, vadik@cs.umd.edu In article <4q48h4$7v@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM says... > >This is a review of one of the movies I saw at the Houston Museum of Fine >Arts last Friday...... > > >"Swan Lake - The Zone" >- directed by Yuri Illiyenko, 1990, 96 minutes > http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/plore.scs DONOS ! STUKACHINA ! SVOLOCH ! KURVA ! PROSTITUTKA ! -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I took Larisa Streeter's above signature file at her word. Regards, Alex Thurston XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX citations below From: Misha Lying-Sovok/Soviet Verbitsky: * * * Esli ni pravyi, ni levyi flang U tebya nezdorovy, pishisya: krank. Koz'ma Prutkov, Voennye Aforizmy. http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/cranks-FAQ.html FAQ of Crankery on soc.culture.soviet. The existential part. What is crankery? In soc.culture.soviet, crankery is not a fuzzy warm plant-talking Kirlian idiocy of John_-_Winston and Robert McElwaine. It is not, either, the harmless megalomania of Archimedes Plutonium, or the silly paranoia of Bar Code 666 fundies. Here, crankery is a vile, hard-hitting, hateful garbage that most readers find highly offensive. Outside of the Soviet newsgroups, this kind of crankery does not survive at all (witness Dan Gannon demise). Immediately upon reading this type of messages, most of the ``normal Americans'' file a heavyweight, lawyerspeak-filled complaint to the offender's sysadmin. Russkies do not know how to write complaint. In fact, most complain-writers of the Soviet newsgroups are cranks themselves (writing complaints to system administration of the moderate posters, who often gulp down the complaint and close the account, with unpleasant consequences for the job of the account-holder). Soviet newsgroups are breeding grounds of crankery. The only crank of such order, outside of the Soviet group, was Hassan B-) Mutlu. Contents of these archives are highly offensive. Why do you archive this stuff? My aim is twofold. I am deeply moved and amused by the crankery. I find much in common with the hateful, vile garbage that the cranks post. After reading the articles by Alexplore, I found that no peaceful coexistence is possible. I am enlightned by the cranks. After massive ingestion of the cranks' articles, the ``normal'' writers look like boring, purposeless, stupid insectoid creatures without individuality or passion. The cranks (of their variety found on soc.culture.soviet) feel the same all-consuming hatred to the world of well-adjusted people. Often, they start hateful campaigns of destruction against this or that (well-adjusted) poster. Even sharing the crank's hate to the world of Normals, I am disgusted with their methods. So I keep this archive to defend the Normals (even if I hate their guts) against the dangerous critters roaming the Soviet chapter of Usenet. Do you consider yourself a crank? No crank considers hir$elf a crank. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From alex@alex.sdi.agate.net Wed Jun 19 22:59 EDT 1996 Received: from service.agate.net (service.agate.net [199.191.1.2]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02887 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alex.sdi.agate.net (alex.sdi.agate.net [204.117.9.156]) by service.agate.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA26142; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606200256.WAA26142@service.agate.net> To: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, dfly@infinet.com, alex@usmeds.com, dlv@dm.com, vshir@aol.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Newsgroups: alt.current-events.ukraine,alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.soviet,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.cyberspace,alt.wired,news.admin.censorship,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,misc.activism,alt.journalism,pgh.freenet,news.admin.misc Subject: I Stand Accused of "E-Mail Sexual Harrasment"!!! Distribution: Homo Sapien, Homo Sovieticus From: alex@agate.net (a) X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 13571 Status: RO Headlines from the next issue of The Bangor Daily News: Customer of Agate Net of Bangor, Maine; is Accused of "E-mail Sexual Harrasment"! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Backwoods Of Rural Maine Rocked Over By News Of Hard Core E-mail Sex ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In Quiet, Tranquil, Bucolic Town ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Town Of East Corinth To Hold Prayer Meetings And Gatherings At Gas Station ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and Yankee Sur-Fine Grocer! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tim and Don of Local True Value Hardware Store say: " He didn't seem like that kind!" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Penobscot County Sherriff's Dept. Announces They Are Ready To Close In ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On E-mail Sex Pervert!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Larisa Streeter(anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM) of Houston, Texas called up my rural ISP in Bangor, Maine (a backwoodsy type area far from the United States of America), and got them to cancel my account for a day!!!!!.... She said that my little E-mail was "sexual harrasment"!! I have never been shown *what* she E-mailed to Agate Net, nor given the *name* of who called to decry my "sexual harrasment", nor told what he/she/it said, other that being told by Justin, the Office Manager, that "...someone said you had 'sexually harrased' someone by E-mail." !!! By E-mail no less! I was never *directly* told *who* was my accuser, Male? Female? It? Two or more of the above? What? Nor was I so much as given a copy of it! And do recall, I AM OUT HERE IN MAINE, ( It’s summer) NOT IN SACRED NEW JERSEY! I do believe that she felt merely insulted. I did *not* ***proposition*** her.... There was no: ".....c'mon sweet baby, give it here to Papa, yum! yum! yum! uummm...... ah! ah! ah! arouggGGGG!!! ahhhhhhhh!!!!!" Nor anything of that nature..... Streeter: In your psychotic, pre-menopausal, ammenorrheic dreams you fat, slovenly beast! I DO believe that one has to be somewhat, if only mildly, sexually attracted/stimulated to someone to wish and long for the pleasures of E-mail sex. I assumed (quite correctly as it turned out) that it was that disgusting, pro-censorship, anti-American, Ukrainian woman, born in a Argentine bordello, Grand High Censor of Russian Kulture [ see: soc.culture.russian.moderated(sovok) ], called Larisa Street(walk)er from Houston, TX. I merely, gave 5 *UKRAINIAN* words, and a http//WWW page address and reference.... She called up and claimed who knows what else besides? I for one will never know.... For I am merely another victim of the E-SLUT. The staff and Agate Net, instead of responding politely and suggesting a attorney and offering her the phone numbers to the local police, and politely tell her to get fucked, not waste their time, immediately must have understood Russian and Ukrainian and other European languages, have quickly read *ALL* 279,985 bytes found in the particular reference WWW page of Verbitsky at Harvard University. Hmmm..... she will be punished for this.....through other providers...... Did you know she slyly implied/stated that I was an "anti-Semite" etc...?!!! Just like a lousy Soviet/Sovok to attempt to pin that one me and call me many things....on a *public* USENET posting and sneak around to one of my ISPs, the backwoods one at that..... she's been in Ameri-kk-a a L - O - O - O - G time now. They (Agate Net) cut me off without letting me see or know anything, not even before they examined the E-mail logs, forgery questions, the context of what its about who, where, etc..... Nor did they ask Larisa Street(walk)er if she formally asked me not to E-mail her, or tell it to use a proc kill file. I am also sure no one asked, if she were a customer of Agate Net, and why is she bothering Agate Net or annoying one of *their* customers. In sacred New Jersey or New York, someone like this would have been asked how much does she charge for a blow-job? or "...so do you want to set-up a account or what?" Or told to go screw itself..... I was expecting/sending some E-mail from XXXXX.net in China for buisness.... The stupid bitch Streeter, panicked the simple country lads at Agate Net, (supposedly a "blue ribbon" freedom of speech site) and annoyed me greatly, I was thinking of calling Julio DeSanctis, a lawyer from New Jersey who now practices in the woods of Bangor, but deceided that I can't be involved to that extent.... Shall I post this? False advertising of "blue ribbon anti-censorship site"? Still, to be fair, it's not Agate's fault really..... How that cunning, sly, old, childless and barren and frigid E-slut duped those simple young American Computor Science lads from the country? How she screamed, hollered, "tears in her voice", swinging from hate, anger,cajoling, crooning sweetly, pleading, yelling, yowling, howling, raging, rapidly cycling through all extremes of moods...... "We thought she was having her ....well you know..... her period or something... we never talked to a Ukrainian before you know.....she just wouldn't stop..." Heh! heh! heh! They never experienced a flaming, raging Ukrainian prostitute that didn't get paid before either.... poor innocent lads.... DISGUSTING ! LOW ! NO CLASS AT ALL ! Sort of like Stalinism.......someone makes the "politically correct accusation": 1. "He is against the proletariat!" And "He is an agent of American Imperialism!" or 2. Now "American" (naturalised) Street(smart)er, Grand Sovok Censor Larisa Street(walk)er would say,"...and he sexually harrassed me by E-mail !" {and in all probability, " I felt it right here!" She loudly exclaimed! Then stupidly slid the phone down to rest between her massive sweating, blue veined legs, thinking Agate, would get the idea from hearing the cheap, polyesther rustle of her tent-like dress.... My, my, how that overweight, unhealthy, warthog did carry on.....} Under conditions, to which I have agreed, my internet access has been "restored". I am never to E-mail that slut again! (“At least from *our* service, PLEASE!) They don’t want to hear it yeow and meow anymore! It would merely be polite and considerate of me not to subject them to that kind of hysterical Ukrainian bitch shit.... JUSTICE, VIRTUE AND TRUTH HAVE PREVAILED IN AMERICA ! SOVOK/SOVIETS AND ALLIES HAVE BEEN THWARTED ONCE AGAIN ! Larisa Streeter must have had multiple orgasms screaming shrilly at multiple innocent, young, fresh country boys at Agate Net, The large blue veins in her legs must have throbed and swelled! How she panted and panted..... After she had finished using the company phone in a unguarded, unsuspecting co-worker's cubicle, she stealthfully and successfully, skittered and darted, with rather suprisingly quick movements, with a rat-like agility, despite her large, heavy mass and large, hanging buttocks, into her own cubicle hole..... Once settled, she glanced, through thick glasses, warily about, at last she began to relax... then pulled out the soggy, bright red, formerly brown, grease stained, lunch bag from deep within that she had been using as a tampoon, and flung it into the overfilled trash basket. It landed, with a "gloup" sound..... there was an old condom, erroded by the strong acids, slowly, reluctantly obeying the law of gravity, despite the colloidal chemistry of congealed blood and mucosal pus.... She reached over and grabbed at the bag of donuts on her, slovenly desk and began to eat... Larisa Streeter (Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com), the foremost poster of soc.culture.ukrainian, felt happy..... Full text of "sexual" (lustful? Illicitly delightful pleasure?!) "harassment" found between XXXX's : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis-Prostitute) Subject:Re: Swan Lake - The Zone Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com,dfly@infinet.com,alex@usmeds.com,dlv@dm.com,vshir@aol.com,grycar @aol.com,verbit@math.harvard.edu,vizitei@aol.com,FRIMERLV@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, aburshte@sas.upenn.edu, alex@math.upenn.edu, ask@netcom.com, borisv@ctron.com, delitsin@geology.wisc.edu,egokman@lehman.com, frimerlv@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu, paul@arizona.edu, ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov,pv02@lehigh.edu, ruten@delphi.com, AT@math.harvard.edu,SLUVCA.SLU.EDU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU, simon@bu.edu, simon@cq1.bu.edu,verbit@math.harvard.edu, zeleny@math.ucla.edu, alex@selway.umt.edu,alyosha@clark.net, amodel@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu, aria@acsu.buffalo.edu,cve@tiamat.umich.umd.edu, d-glinberg@nwu.edu,demya001@maroon.tc.umn.edu, dglin@merle.acns.pwu.edu,dvv@SPRINTLINK.NET, genyuk@math.ohio-state.edu,gnovak@atl1.america.net, gorelik@merle.acns.nwu.edu,iak@umlinfo.unl.edu, igor@che.rochester.edu, igor@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu,ilberlin@ellis.uchicago.edu, ivin@aquila.eecs.berkeley.edu, kisa@expert.purdue.edu, kosinov@ceg.uinc.edu,landsberg@sbhep.physics.sunysb.edu, leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu, lvovich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, mae2@lns62.lns.cornell.edu,mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu, mestechr@vnet.ibm.com, mfligenko@aol.com,mikhail@cis.ksu.edu, misha@vm.temple.edu, olegk@psg.com,petr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, rkostin@quaver.urbana.mcd.edu, sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu, sergei@mk.ibek.com,sizraile@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, vadik@cs.umd.edu In article <4q48h4$7v@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM says... > >This is a review of one of the movies I saw at the Houston Museum of Fine >Arts last Friday...... > > >"Swan Lake - The Zone" >- directed by Yuri Illiyenko, 1990, 96 minutes > http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/plore.scs DONOS ! STUKACHINA ! SVOLOCH ! KURVA ! PROSTITUTKA ! -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I took Larisa Streeter's above signature file at her word. Regards, Alex Thurston XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX citations below From: Misha Sovok/Soviet Verbitsky: * * * Esli ni pravyi, ni levyi flang U tebya nezdorovy, pishisya: krank. Koz'ma Prutkov, Voennye Aforizmy. http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/cranks-FAQ.html FAQ of Crankery on soc.culture.soviet. The existential part. What is crankery? In soc.culture.soviet, crankery is not a fuzzy warm plant-talking Kirlian idiocy of John_-_Winston and Robert McElwaine. It is not, either, the harmless megalomania of Archimedes Plutonium, or the silly paranoia of Bar Code 666 fundies. Here, crankery is a vile, hard-hitting, hateful garbage that most readers find highly offensive. Outside of the Soviet newsgroups, this kind of crankery does not survive at all (witness Dan Gannon demise). Immediately upon reading this type of messages, most of the ``normal Americans'' file a heavyweight, lawyerspeak-filled complaint to the offender's sysadmin. Russkies do not know how to write complaint. In fact, most complain-writers of the Soviet newsgroups are cranks themselves (writing complaints to system administration of the moderate posters, who often gulp down the complaint and close the account, with unpleasant consequences for the job of the account-holder). Soviet newsgroups are breeding grounds of crankery. The only crank of such order, outside of the Soviet group, was Hassan B-) Mutlu. Contents of these archives are highly offensive. Why do you archive this stuff? My aim is twofold. I am deeply moved and amused by the crankery. I find much in common with the hateful, vile garbage that the cranks post. After reading the articles by Alexplore, I found that no peaceful coexistence is possible. I am enlightned by the cranks. After massive ingestion of the cranks' articles, the ``normal'' writers look like boring, purposeless, stupid insectoid creatures without individuality or passion. The cranks (of their variety found on soc.culture.soviet) feel the same all-consuming hatred to the world of well-adjusted people. Often, they start hateful campaigns of destruction against this or that (well-adjusted) poster. Even sharing the crank's hate to the world of Normals, I am disgusted with their methods. So I keep this archive to defend the Normals (even if I hate their guts) against the dangerous critters roaming the Soviet chapter of Usenet. Do you consider yourself a crank? No crank considers hir$elf a crank. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru!verbit@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Sun Jun 30 13:21 EDT 1996 Received: from router.dnttm.rssi.ru (uuverbit@dnttm.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.223.34]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23578 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thelema.UUCP (uuverbit@localhost) by router.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.6.12/IP) with UUCP id VAA13956 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:20:04 +0400 Received: by thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru (UUPC/@ v6.14g, 06Jun95) id AA06056; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:10:59 +0400 (MSD) To: verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Message-Id: Organization: Socialistisches Patienten Kollektiv From: "Misha Verbitsky" Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:10:59 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.38 MSDOS] Subject: From Plore MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 364 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 17054 Status: O To: verbit@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Subject: Re: Strength through disfigurement Cc: dlv@dm.com From: alex@mail.albany.net (alex) Reply-To: alex@keeper.albany.net Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 11:42:35 PST X-Mailer: WinVN 0.99.7 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 17013 Hmmm....... ok, you can do this. I'll allow it. But not too much now! And only on the topic of music. Nothing else. Otherwise I shall have to discipline you more strongly. Now behave like a civilized person and not a savage! And learn to control yourself and accord WESTERNERS the proper respect ! Otherwise you will have some more "English" lessons. I hope you can understand the BAWANA and you learned something from being in an advanced country. Though, if you were intelligent and civilized you should have really asked me *first*! But I know that you do not really understand such things. You are indeed fortunate that I am a kind and generous person and somewhat tolerant to you as opposed to others of your sort. Remember now, you're not in your hut in Moscow! Comprende? In article , you say... > >I am reposting: > >Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:30:09 -0700 (PDT) >From: Peter Werner >To: World Serpent List >Subject: Sergei Kuryokhin, National-Bolsheviks, etc. > >Robert Schwarzbauer (schwarz@ping.at) wrote: > >> I just found a strange piece of information from the "Antifaschistischen >> Nachrichten 11/96 (1.6.1996)" available on the net and translate it for >> you in rather crude English. It ist about the Duma elections in Russia in >> December 1995: "...Remarkable is the result of the nationalbolshevik >> forces. The two leaders of the Nationalbolshevik Front, the literate >> Eduard Limonow and the journalist Alexander Dugin, did stand in the >> elections in Moscow and St. Petersburg as direct candidates. They had >> contacts to the well-known Russian rock-dat Sergej Koriochin, who did >> give concerts for the National-bolshevic Front and hired the most famous >> representatives of the fascist wing of the darkwave-music scene, David >> Tibet and Douglas Pearce. Dugin made place four out of 18 in St. >> Petersburg, but got the leading amongst youth voters." >> >> Does anybody know about these Moscow/St. Petersburg concerts? > >I remember Sergei Kuryokhin 10 years ago from the PBS series "Comrades" >about life in the Soviet Union; one of the five episodes, "All That Jazz", >mainly featured him. An Opal newsletter from around that time mentioned >that he was part of a group called Pop Mechanics, "an amorphous group of >up to possibly 70 people which melds rock, folk, jazz, classical and >'industrial' music". Before perestroika, Kuryokhin was an "unofficial" >musician, excluded from the official musicians union and therefore denied >access to instruments and recording facilities. Since then he's gained >quite a bit of popularity and is probably internationally the best-known >Russian avant-garde musician. > >I did an Altavista search for more information about him and turned up >several articles about him in the St. Petersburg Press, an english-language >weekly that's archived online. (One of the articles also included >information about another group, Avia, that sounded interesting, so I kept >it in). > >It appears that Kuryokhin unfortunately has become a spokesman for the >National Bolsheviks, who are apparently some sort of third-positionist >breakaway from Zhirnovski's party. I strongly doubt the report that David >Tibet did a benefit for the National Bolsheviks; not only has he repeatedly >emphasized that he's not pro-fascist, he rarely performs live anyway, and >I've never heard of his performing in Russia at all. I take a lot of these >kind of reports from "Anti-Fascist" groups with a grain of salt to begin >with; they've reported falsehoods before (for example, in their campaign >against Type O-Negative, they falsely claimed that the group had played >skinhead festivals in Europe). Some of these groups either think slander >is a useful tactic or they at least broadcast rumors without checking up >on them. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>From St. Petersburg Press: > > NUMBER 85, DECEMBER 20 - 26, 1994 > > Petersburg's Rock'n'Roll Christmas > > If you missed Slovenian band Laibach's single show early this month in > Moscow, you can catch their Russian twins, AVIA at the second Studebaker > Party this Friday. > > The first party took place last month, attracting a surprising -- and > uncomfortably large -- audience of almost 1,000 people. To avoid > overcrowding this time there will be a limited supply of tickets sold > in advance from the Rodina theater box-office. > > Like Laibach, AVIA deal with totalitarian aesthetics. AVIA's guitar > and saxophone player Alexei Rakhov said, "We are doing mostly the same > thing, though I think Laibach's is a more formal approach. We feel > totalitarianism a bit deeper. Anyway, Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union > used to differ a lot." > > The three-piece band recently recorded their latest album "Songs About > Nature and Love." They will perform their best-known songs, written > over a nine-year career. > > Sadly, the band will not have its notorious, all-female "physical > training group," who once provided a Soviet 1920s-style "agit-prop" > background to the band's tongue-in-cheek anthems and marches. > > The all-night Studebaker Party will begin at 11pm, giving you plenty > of time to listen to -- and watch! -- the spectacular show by Auktsion > on the same night. > > Finally, do not miss Sergei Kuryokhin's New Year's Eve Piano Night, "I > Am a Little Gray Fir Tree," which will take place at the Oktyabrsky > Concert Hall on Tuesday, December 27. > > Kuryokhin's October show, "Looking in Blue Lakes," included a naked > harp player, a gang of leather-clad "sado-masochists," dozens of > actors, musicians, dancers and a herd of small animals. He says his > forthcoming gig will be a "simple piano concert. But I did order a > platoon of soldiers, just in case," he added. > > Could this be an absurdist comment on the latest political developments? > We shall see. > >NUMBER 86 DECEMBER 27, 1994 - JAN 8, 1995 > > An Element Of Healthy Stupidity > > Sergei Kuryokhin New Year's Piano Night: > "I Am a Little Gray Fir Tree" > > When: Tuesday, December 27. 7pm > Where: Oktyabrsky Concert Hall. 6 Ligovsky Prospect. > Nearest Metro: Ploshchad Vosstaniya. On exiting, turn right out > the door and go to the street (Ligovsky Prospect) on the other > side of the metro station. Turn left. It's on the other side, > five minutes walk down. > Cost: 7,000-20,000 roubles > > _________________________________________________________________ > > By Sergey Chernov > > Sergei Kuryokhin, Russia's premier performance artist and prize-winning > film composer, will play his traditional New Year concert on Tuesday. > > His last New Year's show was a gigantic all-night celebration -- this > time he plans to "recall that once I used to play piano." The concert > will be conducted within the framework of Russian romantic piano > tradition. "What will make it different is that it will be improvised > from the beginning to the end, but it won't be a jazz improvisation," > said the performer. "I've had enough of making shows," he explained. > "Music is the art of sounds as I remember. I'm sure I've read this in > books." However, he feels his "postmodernist core" could reveal itself > a few minutes before the show starts. After his recent visits to > Moscow Kuryokhin feels that there are more things happening there, > whereas St Petersburg is a quiet city, good for relaxation but lacking > events and places to go to. > > He claims that he is not interested in either underground rock club > activities, or academic arts, which he considers "banal." "Probably > the way for St Petersburg is to go even deeper into some kind of > underground, saying, "We were the land of rock, the city of the Silver > Age's poetry," Kuryokhin said. "And to go on going to bed with a tape > by Aquarium playing; or read some old edition of Kuzmin's poetry. > That's stupid." He thinks that it would be equally stupid to ape > Moscow in an attempt to draw money to St Petersburg. > > "I'd just like to see the St Petersburg scene become more active and > meaningful," he said. Last week Kuryokhin unveiled the plans of his > agency, Deputat Baltiki (Baltic's Deputy), established with the aim of > introducing "an element of healthy stupidity" into the city's cultural > life. One such plan is to bring Japanese music and arts to St > Petersburg on a large scale. "Japan remains rather enigmatic and not > quite clear," he said. "On one hand, Japanese culture imitates > America, yet it still clings to its tradition." > > Kuryokhin is especially enthusiastic about Japan's radical music > trend, represented by such bands as Gerogegigegege and Zeni Geva, > which he calls "new Japanese onanism." "They continue the samurai > tradition, but -- while keeping the ritual part, they substitute > masturbation for hara-kiri," he said. > > "They are just great! They play really fast and loudly, they jump > around the stage, and they wank vigorously throughout the whole show." > Quieter parts of the Japanese project include a concert of Japanese > 20th century chamber music at the Cappella, a festival of "high-tech" > arts, and a fashion show. Other plans include an exhibition at the > Russian Museum of Jamie Reid, a British painter associated with 1970s > punk style. He designed the Sex Pistols' classic record covers and > posters. Kuryokhin insists that all his projects are realistic and > will be realized during the next year. Meanwhile, a television > documentary, "Sergei Kuryokhin. Music Portrait," based mostly on the > footage filmed in the mid-1980s, will be shown on Sunday, January 1, > at 10pm on TV's Channel 6. > >NUMBER 87 JAN 3 - 9, 1995 > >80s Rock Revolution Lives On > > By Sergey Chernov > > Some new groups appeared in 1994 on the local scene. They were mostly > off-white imitations of fashionable Western musical styles. Singing in > Russian but drawing their inspiration from foreign springs. Performers > who made waves rather than ripples in St Petersburg's rock'n'roll pool > last year were musicians who first became famous in the Great Russian > Rock Revolution of the 1980s. > > Sergei Kuryokhin was definitely Man of the Year. A media favorite -- > his every step, utterly innovative or no, was headline material during > the last 12 months. He wrote music for several important films, > including Sergei Solovyev's "Three Sisters," which premiered in October. > For the soundtrack of Dmitry Meskhiyev's "Over the Dark Water," > Kuryokhin received the newly created national prize "The Green Apple." > The award was intended for young movie-makers. He received it in late > November. > > But at 40 does Sergei qualify as young? Well, anyway, the mature prize, > "Nika," (Russia's Oscar) was received by 63-year composer Mikayel > Tariverdiyev, famous for his music for the Soviet super-spy TV series > "Seventeen Moments of Spring," in December. The concept of "young" > Russia perhaps differs from the rest of the world. > > And it was Kuryokhin who "finished" the year with a performance on > December 27. Among other things, it featured an avant-garde, virtuoso > percussionist playing on different-sized pieces of metal, a score of > soldiers and two tigers. Alas, there was no partridge in a pear tree > and the tigers were behind the bars. > > If even half of his projects for 1995 (described in last week's St > Petersburg Press) come to fruition, he will undoubtedly be next year's > star turn as well. > > Starting mid-January you can see him every week on television in his > own program on St Petersburg's Channel 5. > > NUMBER 125 [INLINE] SEPTEMBER 26 - OCTOBER 2, 1995 > >Rock star turns his talents to helping extremists > > By Sergey Chernov > > The radical National Bolshevik Party (NBP) has started its election > campaign in St Petersburg in a typically odd way. > > NBP candidate Alexander Dugin has appeared on posters promoting the > last Saturday's "Kuryokhin for Dugin" concert by extravagant pop > composer and show maker Sergei Kuryokhin. > > Mr Dugin is the deputy to NBP founder Eduard Limonov, a controversial > writer and a former member of Vladimir Zhirinovsky's shadow cabinet. > The ultra-nationalist leader gave him the Russian FBI chief position > -- a symbolic job that was a product of Mr Zhirinovsky's unusual mind. > > Mr Limonov split with Mr Zhirinovsky in September 1993. The third most > prominent NBP leader is Siberian punk rock star Yegor Letov of the > band Grazhdanskaya Oborona (Civil Defense). > > Mr Dugin, who lives in Moscow, is yet not registered as a candidate > for the State Duma, but he admits having plans to participate in > elections as a candidate from St Petersburg. > > The NBP promotes the extravagant concept that ultra-right and > ultra-left political groups are natural allies who should unite in > order to seize power. > > Despite this, the party has split from the much-publicized coalition > they formed with Victor Anpilov of the radical communist party Labor > Russia and Alexander Barkashov of the extreme nationalist Russian > National Unity (RNE). > > Mr Dugin said, "In a definite way it was an ephemeral, passing idea... > Both Anpilov and Barkashov have narrow goals, which they are > fulfilling, better or worse is the different question. > > "It was an ideological action to show that the most interesting is the > radical position which is even more left-wing than Anpilov's and more > right-wing than Barkashov's," he added. > > Pop star Kuryokhin shied away from making direct political statements, > and did not confirm that the concert was the first in a series of > events in support of the NBP candidate as has been reported. > > When asked, he replied that Mr Dugin was "just a friend." > > "I have lots of friends, and nobody reproached me when I used to mix, > say, with Sobchak," said Kuryokhin, who organized a press conference > for both Mr Limonov and Mr Dugin in St Petersburg in May. > > Whatever the quirky avant-garde musician might say about motives and > plans, it seems clear that the concert aimed to make the previously > obscure NBP politician a household name in St Petersburg. > > NUMBER 150 MARCH 12 - 18, 1996 > >Neo-Nazis struggle to make a point > > By Sergey Chernov > > Local pop musician and showman Sergei Kuryokhin undertook yet another > attempt to attract the city's youth to the extravagant theories and > politics of the National Bolshevik Party at the St Petersburg State > University last Tuesday. > > About 300 students gathered for the event called "People Need Soul. A > Metaphysical Show Program, featuring NBP's mystical philosopher and > publisher Alexander Dugin -- the party's candidate for the State Duma > elections in St Petersburg last November. > > The viewers seemed to expect something like the last year's show > "Kuryokhin for Dugin," incorporating noisy guitars, flaming crosses, > a male striptease and the party's outrageous political leader Eduard > Limonov, who ran for a Moscow Duma seat. What they got instead was > Kuryokhin's typically elusive speeches delivered in his usual > semi-jocular, absurdist manner. > > Alexander Dugin was more to the point, having duly delivered the > outline of the theory of the "Conservative Revolution," that he > promotes. "Communism did not fully satisfy us, on the other hand, we > see that liberal pseudo-democracies lack content and life, so isn't > it clear why people are interested in fascism," he said. The question > is not if fascism will be in Russia or not -- it will be definitely. > The question is what kind of fascism it will be," he added. > > According to a recent newspaper survey ("Moskovskiye Novosti," #9, > March 3-10, 1996) neo-Nazi parties failed miserably in the State Duma > elections. The NBP showed especially poor results; Limonov who ran in > Moscow's 194th electoral district gathered only 5,555 votes (1.84%), > while Dugin got 2,493 votes (0.85%) in the 210th district in St > Petersburg. > > "Let's all organize conspiracies," urged Kuryokhin repeatedly > throughout the evening. "It's so cool. It's more exciting than rave!" From thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru!agape@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Thu Jul 11 05:17 EDT 1996 Received: from router.dnttm.rssi.ru (root@dnttm.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.223.34]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05303 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thelema.UUCP (uuverbit@localhost) by router.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.6.12/IP) with UUCP id MAA04051 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:09:44 +0400 Received: by thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru (UUPC/@ v6.14g, 06Jun95) id AA06056; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:32:13 +0400 (MSD) To: verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Message-Id: Organization: Socialistisches Patienten Kollektiv From: "Somnambulist Cesare" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:32:12 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.38 MSDOS] Subject: plore MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Length: 12928 To: agape@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Precedence: junk X-Class: Slow Sender: news-reply@ic.simbirsk.su (soc.culture.soviet 46136) X-Ref: alt.culture.purebred-sovoks/169 relcom.politics/18846 soc.culture.israel/15630 soc.culture.jewish/55286 soc.culture.soviet/46136 Path: icnews!satisfy.kiae.su!news1.relcom.ru!demos!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.albany.net!news From: alex@mail.albany.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.soviet, alt.culture.purebred-sovoks,relcom.politics Subject: [News] Re: Watching a Typical Sovok-Russian Chauvinist Post: Mr. Mikhail Alex Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:54:24 GMT Organization: AlbanyNet - E-mail info@albany.net Distribution: Homo sapien, Homo sovieticus Reply-To: alex@hq.ic.simbirsk.su Nntp-Posting-Host: pm1ip17-albny.albany.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 X-Crc-Id: :99630670:f49012dc:7b113c7e: Lines: 329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 12235 Original Topic Was: Ukrainian Language Now Official After Passing A New Constitution In *Ex-Soviet* Ukraine In article , malexeyev@biost1.thi.tmc.edu says... > > Dear reader: > >This post is meant as reply to continuing defamation and attack at my >character by the person (I beleive) named Alex Thurston who is currently >hiding his identity behind > >alex@albany.net and >alex@mail.albany.net >alex@keeper.albany.net > >and possibly at other locations You can never really know .... :) > >It was my understanding that experienced usenet users would automatically >recognize a pattern of net-spammer in his posts: non-signing his posts >with real name and crossposting private correspondence to numerous >newsgroups without explicit permission õ (**) explicit (*?*!*) permissionæ? You gave, upon repeated requests, *implicit* permission. im§plic§it (µm-plµsõµt) adj. 1. Implied or understood though not directly expressed: an implicit agreement not to raise the touchy subject. 2. Contained in the nature of something though not readily apparent: õFrustration is implicit in any attempt to express the deepest selfæ (Patricia Hampl). 3. Having no doubts or reservations; unquestioning: implicit trust. [Latin implicitus, variant of implictus, past participle of implicre, to entangle. See IMPLICATE.] --im§plicõit§ly adv. --im§plicõit§ness n. > from another party (and using lies õliesæ? >to justify that) never was considered a good netiquette. Hmm...... didnôt you write to me in an e-mail exchange *you* *intitiated*, the suggestion of, õLike I said, my advice is to talk to your doctor immediately, this condition may be contagious. Meanwhile, when you get tired, you may put your tongue in your ass. Tell you doctor I approved.æ The earth doth stood very still for a long, long moment when I read that.... I did shake and quake at the terror..... the utter horror...... of your Soviet-Sovok health practices. Now *you* speak of, õgood netiquetteæ? Loudly? :) > His recent >attempt to accuse me of lies I didnôt õattemptæ. :] Nor did I rudely say you @õliedæ@. You did! Who would know best? > by posting following message: > >In article <4rfo98$8k4@nyheter.chalmers.se>, malexeyev@biost1.thi.tmc.edu >says... > >(snip) >>Alex, I received this post of yours on 7/1 by e-mail. >(snip) >> I replied the very >>same day >(snip) >>and received another mail yesterday that confirmed that you >>received my answer. I also replied. Why do you have to post to a >>newsgroup? > >Which "POST" of %MINE% did %YOU% receive by e-mail on 7/1 ??!! ***æWhich "POST" of %MINE% did %YOU% receive by e-mail on 7/1 ??!!æ*** >This is simply not true! >How can you say something like that? >In front of everyone, where it is so easy to check?!! > >Was it indeed possible, that being, "unable" and õunsureæ of >your position, that you knew you could not offer >a concrete and logical answer to my "POST", that you >at that point, felt the need to use E-mail? >That * you * FIRST E-mailed me? > >IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT EFFORT. INITIALLY, I DECIDED TO IGNORE HIS LIES. Kind of you. Did you really have a choice õINITALLYæ ? Did you become * bold * (and brazen) when you got it up and figured you had nothing to lose at this point, eh õGorilka õ ? :))) >HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR THOSE WHO RELATIVELY NEW TO THE NET IT IS >NOT OBVIOUS THAT HEADERS ARE EXTREMELY EASY TO FORGE (WHICH ALEX HAS >SUCCESSFULLY DONE). No. >However, awile ago he posted to the same newsgroups >another message with our complete correspondence were he dated my e-mail >7/1/, exactly as it is stated in my post (see 'Mr. Alexeyev? Defend...') > *** õ...with our complete correspondence,æ*** >I will quote it here: > >> Received: from hermes.bcm.tmc.edu (HERMES.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.2.129]) by >> keeper.albany.net (8.7.5/8.7.5-MZ) with ESMTP id RAA06450 for >> ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:44:24 -0400 (EDT) >> Received: from watson.bcm.tmc.edu (root@bcm.tmc.edu [128.249.2.1]) by >> hermes.bcm.tmc.edu (8.7.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA01748 for >> ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:44:20 -0500 (CDT) >> Received: from BIOST1 (BIOST1.THI.TMC.EDU [128.249.210.10]) by >> watson.bcm.tmc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA17453 for >> ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:44:16 -0500 >> Message-Id: <199607012144.QAA17453@watson.bcm.tmc.edu> >> Received: by biost1.thi.tmc.edu (UCX V3.1 VAX) >> Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:43:47 -0500 >> From: "Mikhail Alexeyev" >> Subject: Re: !CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE ADOPTED! >> To: alex@keeper.albany.net >> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 16:51:03 GMT >> Encoding: 48 TEXT >> Status: >> >> >> >The case of Belgium is not a valid model in the case of Ukraine. >> >The "Wallon" or "Flemish" speakers, did not under go forced "Frankification" >> >to my knowledge, nor repression of their language, concentration camps, >> >genocide, deportations with the concomitment loss of life etc... and more >> etc... >> > >> >Given the above in terms of the history, in the case of Ukraine, a very mild, >> >favoring of the language, Ukrainian, is not the horrible imposition as is >> being >> >made out to be here by some posters. You also have the model >> >of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. A far superior model for Ukraine to follow, >> in my >> >view and more relevant to the Ex-Soviet Union Republics. >> > >> >Surely, you must agree? >> > >> >> I sure must ;) . Of course, 32% Belgians populating 55% of Belgian >> territory (southern part of the country) speak French out of love to French >> wine and not because that part of the country was under the French rule >> between 843 and 1526 and for various periods of time afterwards ;). Frech >> was not implemented at this territory by means of Frankification, famine or >> Gulag, partially because such thing were invented some later on, but somehow >> I refuse to beleive that it was a joyful process. >> And Flemish-speaking part of Belgium speaks Dutch just because they have >> forgotten to change an official language after getting from under the >> Holland's rule. And tiny German-speaking part, annexed after WWI from, yes, >> Germany, is not an analogy of Crimea (just because it is not eager to get >> from under the Belgian rule). There are differences, of course. For >> example, Flanders do not force Wallonians to speak >> Flemish. To the contrary, they speak French when coming to Wallonia. Also, >> Belgians do not send mercenaries to Chechnya and so on, but these >> differences are, certainly, minor ;). >> >> However, there are certain similarities: in Flandria one must speak Flemish >> no matter what his/her native language is. In this respect Ukraine reminds >> of Belgium were Flanders would have expanded their influence all over the >> country. >> There was an attempt of Joseph II to ignore differences in Belgium's regions >> that was punished by brabantine revolution. This is becoming a model for >> Ukraine's future. >> >> Regards, >> >> M.A. >> >...................................................................................... >> My reply follows: >> >> > > >> > >THEREFORE, HE ADMITTED TO RECEIVING MY E-MAIL ON 7/1/ You just contradicted yourself by your own words and my quote of your quote :*** õ...with our complete correspondence,æ*** :))))))))))) For the exercise, briefly, *again*, :) I received * a * E-mail from you * first * on 7/1. Nor did I õadmitæ it. I stated it. There is a large difference. :) Nor did I E-mail my *post* to you. Why bother? How it works is *you* e-mailed me FIRST, I *replied* to it the same day. *You* replied a day later ON 7/ 2. That time. People can see, and I really donôt care so much about errr.. *your* small õerrorsæ Seems you do care very, very much. :) ** Nor did I DESPERATELY FORGE, CLAIM FORGERY, WHINE or do and say *OTHER* DESPERATE THINGS.** :) Hope you are not in an academic environment, that could cause you a great deal of difficulty in some places. with some people :) > >However, it is not my purpose to denounce his lies or reply to his labels here. Then what are you doing and what is your purpose here? >I would like to warn internet users about this person, who became >notorious on Internet long ago. Oh! I thought you were going to reply to my posts! Foolish me! > Description of his activities one can find >in a FAQ of Crankery by Mikhail Verbitsky at Harvard University (see >http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/cranks-FAQ.html) > >I will quote just a bit of it: >Alex Thurston is how the articles coming from >alexplore@aol.com are signed. He is one of the most >prolific writers of soc.culture.ukrainian and he pretends >to be an Ukrainian nationalist and a devoted disciple of >Dimitri Vulis. > >Although this guy never gives a clue about his identity, >the Uke audience doesn't trust his claim of Ukrainness. >Indeed, Alex has never been concerned by the questions of >Ukrainian independence, poltics, history or culture. All >what he does is personal attacks on the xSoviets of the >mixed heritage, particularly the Jews. (These include >traditional anti-Semit cliche's such as a word >"Gescheftmacher" or frequent mentioning of "small >circumcised penises"). Well, at least one ethnic Russian is >also a target of alexplore's attack: it is Pete Vorobieff, >probably one of the best known Russian participants of >Usenet (famous for his role in stopping the legendary >megaposter Serdar Argic). Incidentally, Pete isn't active >in soc.culture.ukrainian; but he is one of the most >prominent opponents of Dimitri Vulis. > >Although Alex Thurston explains frequent matches of his and >Vulis's style and cliche's by the fact that he is a friend >and a disciple of Dimitri Vulis, it is not surprising that >the net maintaines that his articles are (often) written by >Vulis. > >(Note added in proof: lately Alex Thurston claimed a >realspace identity by providing his phone and fax numbers; >I used this chance to question him, and thus discovered >that he doesn't think I'm a Nazi (his ``Soviet-Nazi'' label >was only figurative, he said) and doesn't think that my >controversial statement is anti-Semitic. Much to my >surprise, he didn't seem to be aware of the discussions >underway in the x-Soviet groups, and he seemed to dwell >mostly in the world of his psychotic dreams. Incidentally, >Mr. Thurston refused to undertake any action before he >contacts... no, not his lawyer. Dimitri Vulis.) > > >Regards, > >Mikhail Alexeyev How drool.... Is this the best you can do? Another Sovok/Soviet's: "IS SOVIET TRUTH AND SOVIET HONOR ! " ? :) The M. Verbitsky who has been *banned* forever more, from *posting* by the very respected and tolerant Prof. Yau of the Math Dept. at Harvard University because of his extensive, *lies* and *racism* ? _HE_ is _YOUR_ : CHARACTER REFERENCE ? :))))))) I am over and underwhelmed. Now: Do not run away, or change the subject again. Use argumentum ad factum on the *subject*. Please hurry as my time is very limited. and I and others have been very patient. I know your tongue is not tired. Only you and other Sovok/Soviet chauvinists know of your proclivities in placing and hiding them. Do you have a Sovok girlfriend? If you are able, answer my posts. ALL of them. I will make it *easy* for you, as someone has been forge cancelling my posts. ;) That however, is another issue, for now anyway. Answer: By *thread*. Point by point. As by public challenge and my very polite request. Defend your premise of how *2* official languages, or tongues if you prefer, are better then one. By thread. By post. By point. By facts. Still waiting, alex :)))))))))))))))))))) From alex@usmeds.com Fri Apr 12 00:59 EDT 1996 Received: from uucp.intac.com (uucp.intac.com [198.6.114.27]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA28662 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:59:50 -0400 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.5) with UUCP id AAA27036 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 02us for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:25:06 -0400 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: verbit@abel.MATH.HARVARD.EDU, dfly@infinet.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.ed, dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, urjlew@gibbs.oit.unc.edu, simon1@bu.edu, grycar@aol.com, bohdan@panix.com, er86@dial.pipex.com Subject: LARISA STREET(WALK)ER : FREE BLOW JOBS FOR SOVOKS ! Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:25:02 -0400 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <829283102.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 8737 Status: RO Wiping alot of programs and soviet-shit off my systems.... Disinfuck-ion as it were..... What do you think ? Should I have posted the below when the Verbitsky Sovok and Larisa Street(walk)er woke me up and began to fuck with me, back in Jan of the Winter of '96 ? Naturally, as it is said, "payback is a bitch...." Of-course, it explains, in some small part, my semi-sincere loathing for the above.... To late now, I should think.... Que lastima! Should have posted it to the sovok groups on relcom and Baltics, Ukes, Russians, soviets etc...... Became annoyed at the aforementioned stupid sovok and aforementioned aging ex-prostitute when someone, heh, heh, e-'dresed a copy of their below, low post..... most annoying.... at the time anyway.... someone knew it would wake and provoke me ..... :} Hmmm ...... To: alex Subject: Re: Alleged falsification of visa application by Igor Chudov, contractor to Wilt From: ZZZ@ZZZZZ (Dr. Zzzzz) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 20:38:55 EST In-Reply-To: <4bpt63$pkk@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Organization:ZZ TOP, N.Y. Content-Length: 3591, mo' o' less.... Content-Lines: 75 Status: R Path: perun!news2.panix.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!paperboy.osf.org!bone.think.com!sdd.hp.co m!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.C OM!not-for-mail From: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Alleged falsification of visa application by Igor Chudov, contractor to Wiltel Message-ID: <4bpt63$pkk@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Date: 26 Dec 1995 16:32:35 -0600 References: <4binjg$fm6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4bip5c$71s@decaxp.harvard.edu> <4bk7ia$elm@panix.com> <4bkaer$btl@decaxp.harvard.edu> Organization: Inferno Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: starbase.neosoft.com In article <4bkaer$btl@decaxp.harvard.edu>, Yulya Fridman wrote: >....... >One of the Lord's worst jokes was creation >of the people deprived of sense of humour. >Had you ever seen Pruss, you wouldn't have >any doubts concerning his origin. > >Here goes the full story of the "anti-Semitic" ^^^^^^^^^^ >joke you've mentioned: > >from http://www.math.harvard.edu:/~verbit/cranks.html > >

  • What happened with Dmitry Pruss.

    • > .....[article snipped]..... While I applaud efforts to provide people with all the facts (ie, tell the whole story), I disagree that what you have posted is the "most accurate" story possible here. Unfortunately, there are quite a few remarks in the narrative that are just plain conjecture and/or personal opinion/value judgement. These, at least IMO, make it all too easy for those who doubt you *or* the story to challange the objectivity and veracity of what you have transcribed. I urge you to consider revising certain portions of the text [which I found at /cranks-FAQ.html] so that the article focuses more on facts rather than opinions. Two examples follow: One: >...[Alex] Thurston, a. k. a Alexplore, is an Ukrainian nationalist > perpetuating the worst stereotypes of anti-Semite Ukrainians. He's > alive with inbred hate of all things Jewish (most of his articles are > filled with anti-Semitic slurs, and he usually ranted against the > ``minipulative'' Sovoks...... Thurston is no "Ukrainian nationalist." Although at first he did present himself as such, it became quite clear very quickly that that claim was as false as his name. I AM FOR MORE LEGAL THEN YOU, YOU LYING PROSTITUTE "ANUBIS". WANNA PUT SOME YANQUI $$$ ON IT YOU SLUT ? The man despised all things "Soviet" - not just things Jewish. "..not just things Jewish..." OH ? WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING SLUT ? YOU HAVE A POST OF MINE TO PROVE OR IMPLY THIS I TAKE IT ? THAT IS ; A _*COMPLETE* - IN - IT'S - *ENTIRETY* - *POST* OF *MINE* ? NOT A LINE TAKEN OUT OF IT'S CONTEXT BUT A *COMPLETE* POST. (LIKE I SHOWED, OF YOUR SOVIET REVANCHIST, ANTI-SEMITE, PRO-GENOCIDE "JOKER" BUDDY, GOOFING - OFF ON GOV'T TIME AND ILLEGALLY POSTING SOVIET REUNION SHIT AND GENOCIDE "JOKES" ON FEDERAL COMPUTERS DURING HIS "WORKING TIME" FROM US GOV'T NAT. INST. OF HEALTH BY THE VERY SOVIET "DR." DIMITRI PRU(SS) ?? A Ukrainian nationalist typically exhibits at least *some* love of country/culture. Thurston never exhibited either knowledge of or affection for things Ukrainian nor did I ever see him promote positive aspects of Ukrainian culture, as a Ukrainian nationalist would typically do. So Thurston may well have been an anti-Semite, but the label "Ukrainian nationalist" is most certainly inappropriate. " So Thurston may well have been an anti-Semite..." SO STREETER MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A CHILD MOLESTER, WHO GRABBED AT THE LITTLE THINGIES OF HER UNDERAGE NEIGHBOR'S CHILDREN.... LET THE AUTHORITIES AND EVERYONE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS BE INFORMED OF THE ACCUSED CHILD MOLESTER IN THIER MIDST ! .....AND THAT IS WHY SHE HAD TO LEAVE SAN FRANCISCO AND MOVE TO THE BARRIO IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.... OTHER SHIT I CAN IGNORE. NOT THIS. NOT BY A FUCKING LYING/DEVIOUS/CHARACTERLESS STREET(WALK)ER AND CHILD MOLESTER LIKE YOU. AND, UNLIKE YOU, A DEVIOUS TWO FACED SLUT, WHO LIKES TO PLAY MISSIONARY AND DOES MISSIONARY LEG SPREADING TO THE MOST SOVIET OF SOVIET SAVAGES.... ANTI-SEMITES, LIKE : DIMITRI "I HAVE SUDDENLY DISCOVERED I AM A JEW, SO PLEASE DON'T PUNISH ME FOR HOLACAUST JOKES" PRUSS, GENOCIDAL APOLOGISTS/SOVIET REVANCHISTS, LIKE : BORIS VEYTSMAN, VLADIMIR SOROKIN, EDWARD PONARIN, M. VERBITSKY, PEDER VOROBIEFF I CAN PROVE MY WORDS. YOU DON'T LIKE ME. I AM GENEROUS. THAT CAN BE FORGIVEN. YOU CALLED ME A FUCKING ANTI-SEMITE. .....AND IMPLIEDLY, A FAN OF GENOCIDE. YOU FUCKED UP BIG TIME. THAT CAN *NOT* BE FORGIVEN WITH THE ABOVE NAMED AND PROVABLE ANTI-SEMITIC, GENOCIDAL, SCUM AND SOVIET RIF RIF..... YOU CHARGE AT THEIR DICKS WITH YOUR MOUTH OPEN AND BROWN/GREEN TEETH VISIBLE...... YOU SUCK THE SHIT OFF OF THE LITTLE, LYING, FLACID HEADS.... OF THOSE SOVIET PRICKS.... VERY DEMOCRATIC OF YOU...... AND LIKE YOUR BUDDY VERBITSKY, AUTHOR OF SUCH FINE POSTS AS "UKRAINIAN AND BALTIC SUBHUMANS" ADVOCATING GENOCIDE OF, AS HE PUTS IT NON-RUSSIAN "UNTERMENCHEN", LIKE CHECHENS ETC..... AND PROPOSING THIS A *NUMBER* OF TIMES...... DO YOUR CUNT HAIRS STIFFEN WITH DELIGHT AT THIS ? AND HE REWARDS YOUR SUPPORT OF HIS LYING ATTACK ON ME, AMERICA AND AMERICANS , WITHOUT EVEN GIVING YOU A KISS..... JUST KEEP ON SUCKING SOVOK COCK, STREETER, I FIGURE YOU LIKE IT BECAUSE A HARDENED, FRIGID, EX-PROSTITUTE, WHO MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A CHILD MOLESTER, LIKE YOURSELF KNOWS THERE IS NO DANGER OF CHOKING ON THEIR FLACCID LITTLE MEMBERS.... ISN'T THAT WHY YOU FEEL SO SAFE WITH THEM ? THE "WHITE QUEEN" OF SOC.CULTURE.SOVOK EH ? :) Two: > ...Americans, with their love of snitching, immediately fell for this > provocation and wrote to NIH demanding Pruss's immediate removal. I submit to you that those "Americans" who compained to the NIH did so out of outrage against anti-semitism or out of sheer cluelessness rather than any sort of "love of snitching." STREETER, YOU JUST LIKE TO SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND “SUBMIT” TO ANYTHING , PROVIDED IT ISN'T WESTERN OR INTELLIGENT..... KEEP SUCKING. KEEP "SUBMITTING". FWIW. -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick YOU SHOULD HAVE A ROLLED -UP NEWSPAPER (THE NEW YORK TIMES - SUNDAY EDITION) SMACKED UP YOUR BIG CUNT. DO SOME "KAGLE" EXERCISES. XXXXXXXXXXXXXprev. e-'dress to old, childless, barren, frigid, Larisa Street-snatch-er From alex Sat Dec 30 21:56:22 -0500 1995 Received: by usmeds.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 01sa for alex; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:56:22 -0500 From: alex@usmeds.com (Alex) To: anubis@starbase.neosoft.com Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, sviznyuk@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, vshir@aol.com, bohdan@panix.com, dlv@bwalk.dm.com, grycar@aol.com, voronka@hertz.njit.edu Subject: you were told to leave me alone and not fuck with me, weren't you? Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:56:03 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990002060 Message-Id: <820378563.7054@usmeds.com> Content-Length: 175 Content-Lines: 14 Status: R You wrote: The man despised all things "Soviet" - not just things Jewish. and So Thurston may well have been an anti-semite, ......... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXend........... From thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru!agape@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Tue Aug 27 03:31 EDT 1996 Received: from router.dnttm.rssi.ru (uuverbit@dnttm.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.223.34]) by abel.math.harvard.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA23892 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 03:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thelema.UUCP (uuverbit@localhost) by router.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.6.12/IP) with UUCP id LAA24854 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:28:07 +0400 Received: by thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru (UUPC/@ v6.14g, 06Jun95) id AA07675; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:49:26 +0400 (MSD) To: verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Message-Id: Organization: Socialistisches Patienten Kollektiv From: "Somnambulist Cesare" Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:49:25 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.38 MSDOS] Subject: plore MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Length: 9840 Status: O To: thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru!agape@phobos.ras.ru Precedence: junk X-Class: Slow Sender: ic.simbirsk.su!news-reply@phobos.ras.ru (soc.culture.soviet 46349) X-Ref: alt.culture.purebred-sovoks/213 alt.current-events.russia/7530 alt.current-events.ukraine/2961 alt.politics.correct/62115 alt.politics.libertarian/88479 alt.politics.reform/42585 alt.politics.usa.constitution/32709 alt.politics.usa.misc/53258 relcom.politics/20704 soc.culture.baltics/6100 soc.culture.czecho-slovak/8723 soc.culture.europe/20462 soc.culture.german/25897 soc.culture.israel/16060 soc.culture.magyar/5929 soc.culture.polish/11719 soc.culture.romanian/8370 soc.culture.russian/23567 soc.culture.soviet/46349 soc.culture.ukrainian/15414 soc.culture.usa/56424 talk.politics.misc/174670 ukr.politics/2366 Path: icnews!demos!Gamma.RU!srcc!news1.relcom.ru!EU.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newspump.sol.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.chalmers.se!cs.chalmers.se!estonia From: mail.albany.net!alex@phobos.ras.ru (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.baltics,talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.libertarian, alt.current-events.ukraine,alt.current-events.russia,ukr.politics, alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.usa.constitution, soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.soviet, soc.culture.magyar,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.romanian, soc.culture.czecho-slovak,soc.culture.german, alt.culture.purebred-sovoks,relcom.politics Subject: [News] Re: The Honest Sovok Tereshenko (was Re: Kyiv State University Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:10:57 GMT Organization: AlbanyNet - E-mail info@albany.net Nntp-Posting-Host: muppet44.cs.chalmers.se X-Crc-Id: :74e65362:2bc094eb:d992cbd0: Lines: 178 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-cp866 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 8011 In article <4vgt76$j1d@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, aluchin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu says... > >In article <321BE8B6.5738@ezdial.com>, Dan K. wrote: >> >>You are even a worse slime ball than I ever imagined. You are a total >>disgrace to the country that you claim you are a citizen of and you are >>even a disgrace to your Russian race. Many Russians have come to like >>Americans and appreciate that America's culture is far superior to anything >>found in Russia. > >What? I've never met any russian in america who thinks like that. American >economy is far superior, but culture..... Culture is the inevitable by-product of a sufficiently advanced economy. A more basic example is to say that civilization (culture if you will) is a by-product of a society having an agricultural surplus. Without that *agricultural* surplus, you have nothing. Because of a superior economy, you have a culture that can be * afforded * and self-sustaining. How else can one afford (private sector) artists, writers, (non-military) science, this is why Pavrotti , and the finest artists and scientists etc. come here, where their arts and talents are allowed to flourish, and in turn, you have a feed back mechanism which also affects the economy. A example you can understand is Western CD’s and computers, etc. go to even Sovok, don’t they? And the culture of the Russo-Mongol controlled Soviet Union (ignoring their aggressive military complex) introduced the system of counting money in stores by using an * abacus * (taken from of an ancient Chinese innovation), what else could they * afford * ? Your wonderful and intelligent Russian controlled “Sovok” Soviet Union, since the 1960’s, has had to *import* food in the form of Western government subsidized food imports, private bank loans to the Russian controlled Sovok Union, (in which the only reason anybody would extend those criminal Russian bandits controlling the Soviet Union credits was because those loans were guaranteed and secured by Western governments), etc.. >The real american culture is about to be killed by mass culture. I >wouldn't call america culture better than russian, I wouldn't call >american culture better than american, I'd say they're different. You speak of “mass culture” in America!!! Western Culture is far, far superior to your “proletarian” Russian “culture”, foisted and spread and rammed down the throats of other nations by force. Nations which were also kept in * forced * isolation from the West and the rest of the planet. Continuously being told you were the greatest “culture” on Earth. The proof of this, was the fact of other Russians telling other Russians this was so, all the time, therefore it must be so. Even now in the West, you cling desperately to this. Hell man, those dirty savages don’t even have the * cleanliness * and basic * cultural * concept of sanitation and infectious decease control and the technological know how, ability or even desire to provide decent drinking water in Moscow that doesn’t have hepatitis, giardia, filth, and human * waste * sewage in it. That’s disgusting, from my *inferior* American cultural point of view. Though you would say different strokes for different folks... > But >think- Russian culture originates in the culture of Kievan Rus, Then you should know enough to spell it as “Kyiv” using *Ukrainian* spelling in transliteration and not the Russian transliteration spelling form of “Kiev,” right? To repeat: Kyiv, Ukraine not “Kiev,” Ukraine. Right? Ukrainians wish to rid themselves of the process of “Russification” as much as the Baltic Nations and Eastern Europe in general does. BTW: And do not Russians regard Ukrainians, in which *Kyiv* is located, as inferior? Yet take great delight in saying their Russian language came from, was developed by, Ukrainians along the way, with other elements of culture from Kyiv, Rus/Ukraine? Rather contradictory, is it not Sovok Luchin? >which >is 100 years old, and american culture is just 200 years old. (Mr. Luchin made a typo above and meant to say “1,000 years old” - my note) > > But your post here shows that while you are here studying >>at US taxpayer expense you despise and hate things American and in your >>typical Russian self delusion think that you and your low brow Russo-Mongolian >>culture is somehow superior to American culture. >Dan Russian culture and Mongolian culture are very different, and I belive >you don't know both of them. > > What is it about Russo-Mongolian >>culture that you feel is superior? That your country is committing genocide >>against the brave Chechen freedom fighters? Is that what you think makes >>you feel superior? >No, Dan , that is not russian culture. Yes it is. Historically and ever since the rise of the Russian state from Moscow. Brutality, rape, genocide, mass deportation, forced resettlements with the concomitant high percentage loss of life, suppression of national cultures and languages, resettlement of Russo-Mongol colonizers in the crushed nations, horror after horror. * That * is the * historical * Russian culture ever since the rise of Moscovy from the swamps of Russia, a Finno-Ugrian, Mongol, Asiatic area far, far from the former heartland of Slavic Kyiv, Rus-Ukraine. > Would you say that the crime of >nazi are german culture? Would you say that Chinese cukture is the culture >of cultural revolution? And if you remember what your country did to >native americans (not much different from what russian military is doing >in Chechnya now) The worst military * massacre * to ever take place on American soil against Native Americans, by the US Army Cavalry was at Wounded Knee South Dakota against the Sioux. Led by scared, inexperienced, junior military officers, approximately 250 Sioux men, women and children were slaughtered. It was the most horrible military action ever to take place on American soil. It took place in the 1880’s (?). The book describing it is called _Bury My Heart In Wounded Knee_ . A popular book in the 70’s in many American universities. That number, in Russian terms, wouldn’t even be considered a * snack *. And what is going on now in Grozny, Chechna? Military bombing raids from thousands of feet in altitude? Missile and mortar and artillery strikes into a “Russian ‘Federation’ “ city in 1996? >- is it real american culture? Of course not. But Grozny, Chechna and small and large * villages *, rape, looting, shooting of innocent women and children * is * traditional Russian culture, and in 1996 Russia, with air to ground and surface to surface missiles, chemical defoliants in Chechen forests that kill immediately many small animals, and bombing and strafing of anything that moves, or is even dead already. Sovok Luchin! You are a sovok animal. WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOU IN THAT SOVIET RATHOLE ANYWAY? Leave this pest hole America! This way you won’t have to live here among such uncultured thrash, Don’t spread your wonderful Russian culture here! Take your primitive, savage, sadistic and brutal culture back to where you and it came from, your schools, to your family where you also learned it, where you took it in with your mother’s milk. Take it all the way back to the Tsars of Moscow centuries ago... And show the proper respect for your guest country. That would show a little more “culture”. You are here and not in Russia, killing children and making the survivors speak Russian, as is your right to do so for you believe it makes Russia *great*. The culture is great! Everyone and everything should speak and be Russian! Sounds like a cultural arrogant * master race * variant to me. (but don’t drink the water) alex > Alex > From thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru!agape@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Wed Jul 31 12:53 EDT 1996 Received: from router.dnttm.rssi.ru (uuverbit@dnttm.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.223.34]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23573 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thelema.UUCP (uuverbit@localhost) by router.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.6.12/IP) with UUCP id UAA00443 for verbit@math.harvard.edu; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:54:12 +0400 Received: by thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru (UUPC/@ v6.14g, 06Jun95) id AA06056; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:50:38 +0400 (MSD) To: verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu Message-Id: Organization: Socialistisches Patienten Kollektiv From: "Somnambulist Cesare" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:50:38 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.38 MSDOS] Subject: plore MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 110 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Lines: 110 Status: O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 5213 To: agape@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru Precedence: junk X-Class: Slow Sender: news-reply@ic.simbirsk.su (soc.culture.soviet 46298) X-Ref: alt.current-events.russia/7452 alt.current-events.ukraine/2902 alt.journalism/25652 relcom.commerce.medicine/63704 relcom.politics/19972 sci.med/48956 sci.research.careers/5110 soc.culture.baltics/6028 soc.culture.israel/15898 soc.culture.romanian/8206 soc.culture.russian/23253 soc.culture.soviet/46298 soc.culture.ukrainian/15225 talk.politics.medicine/16447 Path: icnews!demos!news1.relcom.ru!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!perun!alexplore From: alexplore@bwalk.dm.com (Alex T.) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.purebread-sovoks, soc.culture.siberia,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.romanian, soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.israel,sci.med, relcom.commerce.medicine,talk.politics.medicine, alt.current-events.russia,alt.current-events.ukraine,relcom.politics, alt.journalism,sci.research.careers Subject: [News] Re: Notorious Stukach found hiding at a .GOV site - ship him back to Sovok!!! Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 08:39:43 -0400 Organization: The Geheime Anti-Sovok Partizan Army X-Crc-Id: :9b8a3b4c:98f6590a:a5f93b8c: Lines: 80 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3915 In article , dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) writes: >The Geheime Anti-Sovok Partizan Army has obtained the following filthy donos: > >]06/25/96 21:47 301 402 1323 LMD/NICHD 001 >] >] >]June 25, 1996 6 Center Dr.,Rm. B1A06 >] Bethesda MD 20892-2710 >] Phone: (301)402-3448 >] Fax: (301)402-1323 >] >]AGATE INTERNET SERVICES >]31 Central Street, Suite 312 >]Bangor, Maine 04401 >]FAX: (207) XXX-XXXX >] >] >]Dear Sirs, >]This is in response to grossly inappropriate electronic mail messages to my work account >]from your user "a." with such subjects as "SOVIET-NAZI FOUND... >]AGAIN! ALERT TO ALL !!!" (Message-ID: <31D064F4.14E9@alex.sdi.agate.net>) >]and "To all Jews: SOVIET-NAZI INFO. (more info)" (Message-ID: >]<31D066BE.6751@alex.sdi.agate.net). I don't know what causes this semi-anonymous >]user to behave in such an inconsiderate way. All I can tell you is that my colleagues at the >]National Institutes of Child Health and Human Development and myself have already been >]victimized by a waive of email messages of essentially the same style (including sexually >]explicit, obscene and racist messages) back in 1994-1995. It is the policy of our Institute >]not to use the electronic mail system of the Institute for any work unrelated >]correspondence. Therefore I would very much like you to ascertain that we don't receive >]any inappropriate electronic mail from your customers in the future. Please be assured that >]any further hate mail to my work account will be immediately forwarded to the Hate Crime >]Division of the NIH PD. >] >]Sincerely yours, >] >] Dmitry Pruss, Ph.D. > >U.S.Citizens: does this despicable lying Sovok Stukach deserve our tax dollars? Note that "Dr." PruSS, who still works(??? gets paid from my tax money) for the National Instututes of Child Health and Human Development after posting his infamous, "Let Russia learn from the Germans and Let's Genocide those Jews", advice post from the federal government computers at the Nat. Inst. of Health (NIH), claims now,"to be a Jew"! What an incredible, boldface lie! Let him pull down his pants and show his uncircumcized little prick! He had no problem with "mooning" and showing his disgusting @ss to the world with his filthy racist Soviet ass when he posted his "advice", anti-American and "Jew jokes" to the entire planet from his safe Federal rathole in NIH. Let's see if we are not more likely to see, this time, his clever, lying Soviet Communist tongue in his ass! Why is the National Instututes of Health allowing this phoney Soviet "Ph.D." ("kandidat" = at most M.A., but PruSS lies about everything) doing unproductive, 3rd rate work (hasn't published anything but anti- Semitic "jokes" on Usenet since 1993!!!), who hates America, to continue to work at a Federal Agency, in this country, when our Government is supposedly against this sort of hatred? Using my tax money to fax lies about me from the office @quarter to ten? Are his anti-Semitic jokes on Usenet "work-related"? When dozens of real American Ph.D.'s are out of work? American *citizens* have resigned or have been fired for far less! Why is the Clinton Administration and others so silent? Because the guy is Russian, therefore it's O.K.? And we Americans are paying $$$ for this, "scientiffic research", at a time of shrinking budgets and at the expense of unemployed people, for sloppy "soviet" work and those who hate us? From, Just another stupid American citizen and taxpayer Alexplore From alyosha@vnet.ibm.com Tue Jun 18 00:13 EDT 1996 Received: from service.agate.net (service.agate.net [199.191.1.2]) by abel.math.HARVARD.EDU (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05579; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alex.sdi.agate.net (alex.sdi.agate.net [204.117.9.156]) by service.agate.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA18729; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606180409.AAA18729@service.agate.net> X-Sender: alex@agate.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 To: anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Anubis-Prostitute) From: ALYOSHA Subject: Re: Swan Lake - The Zone Cc: dkorolyshyn@ezdial.com, dfly@infinet.com, alex@usmeds.com, dlv@dm.com, vshir@aol.com, grycar@aol.com, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu, vizitei@aol.com, FRIMERLV@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, aburshte@sas.upenn.edu, alex@math.upenn.edu, ask@netcom.com, borisv@ctron.com, delitsin@geology.wisc.edu, egokman@lehman.com, frimerlv@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU, manin@sticky.rockefeller.edu, paul@arizona.edu, ptv@druid.epm.ornl.gov, pv02@lehigh.edu, ruten@delphi.com, AT@abel.math.harvard.edu, SLUVCA.SLU.EDU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU, simon@bu.edu, simon@cq1.bu.edu, verbit@abel.math.harvard.edu, zeleny@math.ucla.edu, alex@selway.umt.edu, alyosha@clark.net, amodel@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu, aria@acsu.buffalo.edu, cve@tiamat.umich.umd.edu, d-glinberg@nwu.edu, demya001@maroon.tc.umn.edu, dglin@merle.acns.pwu.edu, dvv@SPRINTLINK.NET, genyuk@math.ohio-state.edu, gnovak@atl1.america.net, gorelik@merle.acns.nwu.edu, iak@umlinfo.unl.edu, igor@che.rochester.edu, igor@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, ilberlin@ellis.uchicago.edu, ivin@aquila.eecs.berkeley.edu, kisa@expert.purdue.edu, kosinov@ceg.uinc.edu, landsberg@sbhep.physics.sunysb.edu, leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu, lvovich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, mae2@lns62.lns.cornell.edu, mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu, mestechr@vnet.ibm.com, mfligenko@aol.com, mikhail@cis.ksu.edu, misha@vm.temple.edu, olegk@psg.com, petr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, rkostin@quaver.urbana.mcd.edu, sasha@rsfq1.physics.sunysb.edu, sergei@mk.ibek.com, sizraile@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, vadik@cs.umd.edu Status: RO X-Lines: 33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 900 In article <4q48h4$7v@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM says... > >This is a review of one of the movies I saw at the Houston Museum of Fine >Arts last Friday...... > > >"Swan Lake - The Zone" >- directed by Yuri Illiyenko, 1990, 96 minutes > http://www.math.harvard.edu/~verbit/scs/cranks/plore.scs DONOS ! STUKACHINA ! SVOLOCH ! KURVA ! PROSTITUTKA ! -- Larisa Anubis@Starbase.NeoSoft.com "Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding! Evil is just plain bad! You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness! Bad dog! Bad dog!" - The Tick From alex@agate.net Tue Oct 22 12:09:34 EDT 1996 Article: 103187 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-8.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (Alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian Subject: Re: Verbitsky's fascist post is disgusting Date: 20 Oct 1996 14:33:57 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 197 Message-ID: <54dd8m$1rg@service-2.agate.net> References: <1996Oct18.155052.24005@njitgw.njit.edu> <3267BC53.9E6@dial.pipex.com> <3267fb5a.770087@news.ios.com> <32692BC1.7BDC@dial.pipex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:63654 soc.culture.soviet:103187 soc.culture.baltics:21049 soc.culture.ukrainian:33734 In article <32692BC1.7BDC@dial.pipex.com>, Dmitry Gryaznov said... > >Gennadiy Burdeyny wrote: >> >> On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Dmitry Gryaznov wrote: >> >> >Voronka wrote: >> >[...] >> >> Absolutely SICK! When will the Russians of Verbitsky's ilk cure >> >> themselves of their fascist thinking? Can ANY amount of terror >> >> be justified or excused as long as it serves the good of the >> >> Vaterland or Rodina? Hitler's and Stalin's henchmen certainly >> >> knew the answer and acted accordingly. >> > >> >I don't think it has anything to do with Verbitsky's _Russian_ background. >> >For example, the "data" he used in his post was taken from non-Russian >> >Stalin's apologists and admirers. His _Soviet_ background, however, could >> >have contributed to his position. >> >> Dmitry, is it really you? Cannot believe it - YOU are finding offense >> where there's really none? >> >> Note that Mr.Voronka doesn't just say "the Russians" - he says "the >> Russians of Verbitsky's ilk", which is really a subset; and a little >> farther down he obviously implies that there are(were) people of the >> same "ilk" in other nations (e.g. German)... >> >> >You can read my Russian response to Verbitsky in s.c.r. (in English). >> >> I did. That one looks yours, this doesn't... > >Why to emphasize "Russian" in the case? For the same reasons that historians "emphasize" *German* in the case of *Germany's* role in the horror's of WW II .... > Just "Verbitsky's ilk" would be fine. For a *Russian*, yes... it would indeed be more **soothing**, would it not????? >How would you like "the Georgians of Stalin's ilk" or "the Germans of >Hitler's ilk"? Stalin was head of the *Russian* core of the Soviet Union and therefore, through *Russian* conquest and *Russian* control of the essentially *Russian* *STATE* .... a *Russian* leader... who was *very* pro-*Russian* in terms of his lingual, cultural, and political, genocidal and *Russificatian* policys... (As Hitler was for *Germany*) Stalin was a leader of the *Russian* people and one of many key players in *Russian* control of the Soviet (Russian Empire) Union. The particular ethnicity of *one* man in *Russia's* Soviet Union is of no consequence, is it??? BTW, Hitler was an *Austrian* and *not* German. Nevertheless.... the *Germans* are by default, held *accountable* by the planet, and and all historians.... and by the **Russians** as well.... did you forget that???? Ask a few historians and some *Russians*, if you don't believe me... The Poles, French and *Russians* do not hold *Austrians* accountable.....despite the ethnic extraction of Adolph Hitler, the house painter and failed artist from Austria, now do they???? Hitler was a leader of the *Germans*.... he was a *German* leader.... Stalin was a *Russian* leader.... Did you follow that??? Stalin, by rulling Russia, ruled the bloody Soviet (Russian-Empire) Union, as the Czars ruled the *Russian* Empire. It would be rather *self-serving*, to accuse *ethnic* Georgians or Austrians rather then the actual ***core*** nation and *people* they controlled and led, for the crimes of their nations.... How many millions of people did Hitler or Stalin, by themselves alone: *personally* kill????? How were they to achieve their butchery *without* the *Germans* and *Russians*???? Yes you can always loudly talk about *other* ethnic groups were also involved.... For instance, the Jews who acted as police and concentration camp workers for the *Germans*. Yet no one, except for the most demented *German* Nazi *apologist*, would seriously attempt to blame the Jews for genocide or attempt to muddy or confuse the issue.... Yet *Russians* loudly say (all the time) that Stalin, "...he was a Georgian you know!" :)))) Would it be *better* for the *Russians* to accuse *only* "communists" or Ukrainians for the genocide of Ukrainians in 1932-33 ??? Deportations of Chechens, etc....??? And all sorts of other crimes??? Of-course it would!!!! :)))) Does it fool anyone???? Nope. How about you? It would indeed be the ultimate and truest form of ethnic bigotry to look at the ethnic identity of *one* particular fellow or even a few traitors, among a group, of a conquered nation and to *attempt* to absolve the responsible and *all important* role of a *entire* nation and it's people. (Nazis and Communists again!!!) Historians tend to view such in *national* terms....taking a *larger* and *objective* view, such as the role of the English in terms of the British Empire.... Or would you prefer to speak of the Irish soldiers in that case (and a few Jews acting as police for the *Germans* in WW II ) ?????? The *Germans* as a nation were held accountable for WW II, as should the *Russians* for their *national* crimes against humanity and *other* nations and peoples. There is certainly an international precedent for it... In fact, the *Russians* used "reparations", from right after WW II, to continously bleed dry the East Germans until the Russian Soviet Union collapsed (due to it's incompetence and stupidity) and at the last minute yet *again* demanded and got *more* money out of West Germany, for "war reparations" for the *entire* Soviet Union (the Russians kept *ALL* of the money of-course). [The West Germans desparately wanted to see the Russians go back to their caves and swamps when they left East Germany, and so at the last minute, *international* extorsion by the *Russians* of *money* for the *entire* "Soviet Union". Who *got* the **money**, says something doesn't it??? You forget that one???] All of East Europe wanted the Russians to go.... everyone hates *Russians* except of-course, the child rapists of Serbia... who had a lot of Russian volunteers to help them... The oft told story of how the *Germans* and the *Russians* themselves suffered under their rulers is a different story. The Russians are very fond of screaming how they suffered the most!! The next day they scream how Chechen territory "always belonged" to the Russian Empire and to the "sucessor state", the Soviet Union, and to the lastest "sucessor state", the Russian "Federation".... International history has it's own view of nations when genocide, war, terror ... crosses state and ethnic borders and the peoples of *other* nations are affected. *International* history, gives an entirely different demension of viewing, doesn't it? This is why the *Germans* had to pay *reparations* for their "CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY", rather then the Austrians.... right???? All the Nazis, when brought to trial, blamed one man, Hitler ( ".... and Hitler wasn't a German.... he was Austrian.... why blame us Germans?" ) Sound familiar??? > >Oh well, I could have overreacted, after all... Nope. You just reacted as a *typical* **apologist** for traditional *Russian* savagery and crimes against humanity # within the framework of *international* study # ... Verbitsky, was much more on target and honest and *objective* >from a *certain* viewpoint in his treatment and views of the particular topic, in a *certain* sense, then you were.... I do *not* agree with what he said BUT.... at he was at least an "*honest*" Russian, (that time) in terms of being a *Russian* about it.... more so then you, it would seem....or any other *apologist* for the Czars, Nazis, communists etc... Don't you think so Mr. Gryaznov???? Or do you wanna talk about the Georgians???? This is rather typical *Russian* historical bullshit revisionism ... Seems to be a tradition with you chaps.... You are not ashamed are you??? This is why I prefer the more straight forward idiot ...... M. Verbitsky... less horse shit to smell ... in a way.... > >Fortunately, I am going for a one week holiday to "sunny California" >next week. A whole week without Usenet, would you believe it! :))) > >-- >Sincerely, | VirusLab, Dr.Solomon's Software Ltd. > Dmitry O. Gryaznov | Alton House, Office Park, Gatehouse Way, >Senior Research Consultant | Aylesbury, Bucks HP19 3XU, United Kingdom >E-mail: grdo@dial.pipex.com | Tel: +44 (0)1296 318700 >WWW: http://www.drsolomon.com | Fax: +44 (0)1296 318734 From fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.mathworks.com!gatech!swrinde!pipex!demon!news2.demon.co.uk!news.demon.co.uk!nately.ucsd.edu!nobody Mon May 1 19:55:33 EDT 1995 Article: 71279 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!news2.near.net!news.mathworks.com!gatech!swrinde!pipex!demon!news2.demon.co.uk!news.demon.co.uk!nately.ucsd.edu!nobody Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,sci.research.careers,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.african.american From: nobody@nately.ucsd.edu (Anonymous) Subject: DON'T HIRE ANY LYING SOVOKS! HIRE AMERICANS! Comments: This message did not originate from the above address. It was automatically remailed by an anonymous mail service. Please report inappropriate use to Organization: Geheime Anti-Sovok Gang X-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 03:40:07 +0000 Message-ID: <9505010340.AA23347@nately.UCSD.EDU> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Lines: 38 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu misc.jobs.misc:20813 sci.research.careers:3328 soc.culture.soviet:71279 soc.culture.russian:3210 soc.culture.ukrainian:14295 soc.culture.african.american:72387 Status: RO Content-Length: 2378 {{THIS IS AN OFFICIAL REQUEST TO ALL EMPLOYERS: PLEASE DON'T HIRE SOVOKS! NOT PUREBREAD SOVOKS! NOT HALFBREAD SOVOKS! NOT ANY FUCKEN INBREAD SOVOKS! SOVOKS ARE GENETICALLY ENGINEERED TO EVADE ALL WORK. SOVOKS ARE VICIOUS RACISTS. THEY CAN'T WORK A LONG SIDE AFRICAN AMERICANS, CALL THEM NIGGERS, AND IN THEIR LANGUAGE: CHORNY, AND SHAKHTIOR AND FALSLY ACCUSE THEM OF "ANTI-SEMITISM" (MAKE UP STORIES). THEY CAN'T WORK ALONG SIDE ASIAN AMERICANS OR ANY AMERICANS. THEY ONLY WANT TO "WORK: NEXT TO OTHER FUCKEN SOVOKS. THEN THEY DON 'T WORK AT ALL, JUST TALK ALL DAY IN THEIR FUCKEN LANGUAGE AND DRINK BEER. SOVOKS SHOPLIFT, CHEAT ON WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS. THEIR WOMEN ARE WHORES. SOVOKS ALWYS LIE ON THEIR RESUMES. FOR EXAMPLE SOVOKS THAT GRADUATED 2-YEAR SOVIET "TEKHNIKUM" (EQUIVALENT TO AMERICAN ASSOCIATE DEGREE FROM COMMUNITY COLLEGE) OR "PEGADOGICAL" (TEACHER'S) SCHOOL ALWAYS CLAIM TO HOLD BACHELORS DEGREE (A LIE), SOVOKS THAT DROPED OUT OF REAL SOVIET COLLEGE AFTER 2 YEARS CLAIM BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN AMERICA TOO. FUCKEN SOVOKS THAT DID GRADUATE 4- OR 5-YEAR SOVIET "UNIVERSITY" (EVERY SHITTY COLLLEGE CALLS IT SELF "UNIVERSITY" THERE) CLAIM TO HAVE MASTERS DEGREE. (AGAIN A BIG LIE) FACT IS, HE DOES N'T HAVE EVEN THE EQUIVALENT OF AMERICAN BACHELORS DEGREE B/C: 1/2 TO 2/3 OF THERE CLASWORK WAS SHIT PROPAGANDA "COURSES" LIKE SCIENTIFIC AHTEISM AND THE HISTORY OF COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE SOVIET UNION, MAY IT REST IN PISS. THAT'S WHY IT TAKES THE FUCKERS 5 YEARS TO GRADUATE; AN AMERICAN WITH BACHELORS DEGREE HAS A LIBERAL FUCKEN ARTS EDUCATION, AND KNOWS LITERATURE, HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY, BIOLOGY, ETC. A SOVOK WON'T READ A BOOK OR MAGAZINE UNLESS YOU PAY THEM TO, THEN HE'LL ONLY PRETEND TO READ. A SOVOK THAT REALLY HAS A REAL SOVIET MASTER'S DEGREE (I.E.HIS PAPERS SAY "MAGISTR" OR "KANDIDAT NAUK") ALLWAYS CLAIMS TO HAVE A PH.D. EQUIVALENT AND PRUODLY CALLS HIM SELF "DR. SOVOK". THAT'S A FUCKEN LIE AND THE TRUTH IS A SOVOK IS NOT ANY WHERE CLOSE TO A PH.D. UNLESS HIS PAPERS SAY "DOKTOR NAUK". IN CYRILLIC IT LOOKS LIKE "/|OKTOR HAYK". ELSE THEY LIE. IF YOUR CONSIDERING TOO HIRE A SOVOK, AND QUESTION THERE ACADEMIC CREDENTIALS AT LEAST BE SURE TO SEE HIS ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPTS AND PAY YOUR STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO EVALUATE THEM. BETTER STILL: DON'T HIRE ANY SOVOKS, HIRE SOMEONE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY! FUCKEN SOVOKS, GO BACK, WHERE YOU CAME FROM.}} From alex@agate.net Tue Nov 26 16:57:53 EST 1996 Article: 66574 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.starnet.net!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp-oslo.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!online.no!sn.no!news.good.net!news.good.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (Alex) Newsgroups: alt.current-events.ukraine,alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.baltics Subject: Re: USA apologizes to the Hawaiian people Date: 25 Nov 1996 12:54:38 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 160 Message-ID: <57c4uh$n4e@service-2.agate.net> References: <326B03B1.4DEB@ezdial.com> <55qdbq$3et@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <3286510C.1A2@ezdial.com> <567sm8$jba@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <3287DDB5.7E9E@ezdial.com> <3289770F.B8B@ezdial.com> <56qato$o93@kirin.wwa.com> <32911A6A.322D@ezdial.com> <56rmla$40o@kirin.wwa.com> <01bbd839$b5a14080$447141ce@william-ganz> <3295F63C.F01@ezdial.com> <57b8ql$j9k@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu alt.current-events.ukraine:7375 alt.current-events.russia:15956 soc.culture.russian:66574 soc.culture.ukrainian:34707 soc.culture.europe:56877 soc.culture.usa:141283 soc.culture.baltics:21691 In article <57b8ql$j9k@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, algitx@ix.netcom.com says... > >In <3295F63C.F01@ezdial.com> "Dan K." writes: >> >>Who do you think all those Soviets writing on scu and scr are? :-) > > I would say you who are an avid supporter of censorship are not to >far from the Soviets you claim to abhor. Wrong. Dan K. merely disagrees with people with a Soviet mind set and is much more knowledgable then they are.... That is why they (you too asshole) make up things about him... i.e. "censorship", "fascist" etc... Very soviet, isn't it? :))) > >>Oh, and I'm not trying to "insult" you, just your "intelligence". :-) > > Charming as always, Dan. > >>That is not what some historians say. WHO??????? YOU!!!!!!!! :)))) What purpose did Ben Franklin have in France then??? Just to screw the women??? Why was Ben Franklin the representative of the Continental Congress (ambassador), and was was his *main* goal???? >>And it is absolutely CERTAIN >>that without FRENCH HELP the American colonies would NEVER have >>gotten their independence. It was the French who defeated Cornwallis >>at Yorktown, not George Washington, even though he got the credit for >>it. > > Our success did not hinge on French help. The British Empire was >short on money and didn't have enough to wage drawn out war in the >colonies. WRONG!!! *NO* STATE or empire *ever* has enough money, now does it??? Did Nazi Germany have enough *money* for WW II by your stupid criteria???? Did it stop them???? >Certainly French help shortened the war. French entry and participation *ENDED* the war!!! Forget your Sovok history lessons!!!! > > To clear up a minor misconception you have Yeltsin, Kravchuk, and >the Belarussian leader met in Ukraine and decided to dissolve the USSR. > It was a decision of three republics and not just one. Wrong again! It was merely an empty formality at that point. The USSR was finished with Ukraine's move to leave the USSR. Yeltsin merely recognized the fact..... The Russians (naturally) would have prefered to keep the Evil Empire intact.... You have calls for a new Empire coming primarily from whom??? Chechens had to fight whom again??? You have in the past said what??? :))))) > > It is Ukraine who should be thankful to the Baltics for starting >the call for independence. If they had not succeeded, there would have >been no break up. You are a very, very simple minded fool....... It was the *SPARK*, but *not* the *main* reason, now was it??? BTW, who and from where tried to suppress it??? Wasn't it the Russians???? :)))) > >>BTW, We American taxpayers should never forget and always be grateful >>to the Ukrainian nation for their secession from the FSU which brought >>about the collapse of the Evil Empire because it is because of this >>action on the part of the Ukrainian people that the Cold War came to a >>peaceful end and the American people were able to decrease the number >>of US troops in Western Europe from over 300,000 troops to >>approximately 100,000 troops thus saving the American taxpayer >>LITERALLY BILLIONS of dollars EACH AND EVERY YEAR. This is the reason >>that I believe that Ukraine should be the BIGGEST recipient of US >>foreign aid or at least in the same league as Israel and Egypt. >> >>The US definitely owes Ukraine great gratitude. > > What a load of bull! As stated above it was three republics that >decided the fate, you only need read a magazine or a history book. (SEE ABOVE) > God >forbid you ever use facts in your arguments, Dan! And the Ukraine had >a very insignificant role. (SEE ABOVE I TOLD YOU!! :) > The US caused the colapse of the USSR. It >was Reagan who set about pushing the arms race to its limits. We >bankrupted the Soviet economy and then we made sure that their were no >creditors around to save Gorby. Gorbachev begged for money at the >doorsteps in Japan, the US, and Western Europe; but he did not recieve >a dime. The economic colapse caused nationalism to turn into raging >inferno. Where did the vast foreign debt *before* Gorbachev come from then?? Where did the vast soviet food imports (at low, low, Western government subsidized prices etc.. and credit terms come from??? Since the time when Kruschev Russian first came begging for food and money in the 1960's > Gorbachevs desperate reforms isolated him from hardliners and >led to the failed coup, that ended the USSR. (SEE ABOVE) > > So, Dan, we don't owe Ukraine jack shit. Be thankful that the US >allowed millions of tons of grain to be shipped to the USSR. If we had >not, it would have been non-Russians who starved first. TRUE!!!! The Russians would have taken food from the non-Russian people and starved the rest if need be or at their whim... This was proven with the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932-33. Afterwards, the Russians would have gone back to talking about the evils of nationalism and the "fraternal relations between all peoples and especially the Ukrainians and Russians", as usual.... Matter of fact, there were attempts by Russia, to pull out *all* agricultural products (along with military hardware) out of Ukraine at the time of collapse... > We have >already given your nation aid. It was the US that allowed them the >opportunity to declare independence. It was the US that gave food aid. > If we had not pursued our policy of isolating the USSR, Ukraine would >still be under the hammer and sickle. We allowed Ukrainians to >immigrate to the US, when we could have sent the ships back. It is the >Ukrainians who owe a great deal to the US. Why do you see "we" all the time???? You are a Russian enemy of America and the West in general, who lives here (hypocrite and fool that you are). You are against freedom, you want to see a strong Russia, a historicaly savage, vicious and evil nation, which were it to be stronger, would be against the interests of all mankind. Besides all that .... you don't know shit. Regards, alex From alex@agate.net Sat Nov 30 02:15:55 EST 1996 Article: 66821 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Why American women do not like Ukrainian men? Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:53:52 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 13 Message-ID: <57o0j0$l04@service-2.agate.net> References: <7ds209@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <19961129165500.LAA08147@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:34869 soc.culture.russian:66821 soc.culture.usa:142304 In article <19961129165500.LAA08147@ladder01.news.aol.com>, alfierig@aol.com says... > >I have a ukrainian girlfriend. They don't want drunks and thugs. they want >a future. Ukrainian women *are* the worst thugs and criminals!!! They want your American wallet and citizenship!!!! They are all whores and prostitutes. This is why they are soviets first and foremost!! This is why your Ukrainian girlfriend is your girlfriend, (she used to be everyone else's in her ratty country....) From alex@agate.net Mon Dec 9 06:53:33 EST 1996 Article: 104023 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!news1.digital.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.ukrainian Subject: Re: NEWS: NATO & Russian Nukes Date: 6 Dec 1996 04:31:36 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5887j8$aeu@service-2.agate.net> References: <32A2100B.538E@bbsrc.ac.uk> <57uqmi$hi7@hecate.umd.edu> <32A39904.2F3E@ucdavis.edu> <581ulo$ngn@hecate.umd.edu> <5837p5$8hn@kirin.wwa.com> <32A54CA8.167E@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de> <585n8l$et5@kirin.wwa.com> <5862nk$da4@news.ziplink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:104023 alt.current-events.russia:16166 soc.culture.russian:67342 soc.culture.baltics:21887 soc.culture.ukrainian:35056 In article <5862nk$da4@news.ziplink.net>, mi@rtfm.ziplink.net says... > >05 Dec ÐÏÞÔÅÎÎÁÑ Henrietta Thomas > ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÁ × <585n8l$et5@kirin.wwa.com> : > >=It is too bad that Germany lost the war, isn't it? If Germany had won >=the war, there wouldn't be any Russia to worry about today. Too bad >=Germany lost the war...... > >Would probably be just as bad... BTW, there is a Germany for you to >worry about today. So Russia would probably also exist. > >=FYI, Germany is a "peaceloving" nation nowadays only because she was >=occupied by the United States and did what she was told to do. Germany >=debated going to Bosnia because Germany is restricted in her ability to >=engage in military actions. Many Europeans are still very much afraid of >=Germany, which nation was responsible for two world wars. As NATO moves >=eastward, there will be more pressure from the United States for Germany >=to rearm and assume a larger role. That frightens me. How would you like >=to see German soldiers marching across Eastern Europe again on their way >=to subdue "the Russians"? > >The above is as politicly incorrect as it gets... Shame on you, >Henrietta. Just a note: Russia was just as responsible for both >wars, AFAIK. > >=I am old enough to remember World War II. > >Umm. And what do you remember? About $2 for a fast lay..... $0.50 a blow-job...... but only from the horniest of sailors who just came back from long, long, long tours escorting convoy supply ships to Britain.... (Now and then a can of caviar from Russian sailors!!!!) Life was indeed tough back then..... if you were a sailor.... still..... Henrietta was very available..... cheap too.... > > -mi >-- > ˆèÏÒÏÛÉÊ, Ó×ÅÖÉÊ ËÅÆÉÒ ÓÅÇÏÄÎÑ... From alex@agate.net Tue Dec 17 06:16:12 EST 1996 Article: 104281 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!news.good.net!news.good.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.baltics Subject: Re: NEWS: NATO = hell Date: 11 Dec 1996 23:46:21 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 45 Message-ID: <58nh4d$bom@service-2.agate.net> References: <32A2100B.538E@bbsrc.ac.uk> <57uqmi$hi7@hecate.umd.edu> <32A39904.2F3E@ucdavis.edu> <581ulo$ngn@hecate.umd.edu> <5837p5$8hn@kirin.wwa.com> <32A54CA8.167E@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de> <585n8l$et5@kirin.wwa.com> <32A71523.41C6@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de> <32A7BCF3.D7F@cyberspace.org> <589shs$im3@service-2.agate.net> <01bbe6c0$01e959c0$LocalHost@stella.glas.apc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:104281 alt.current-events.russia:16352 soc.culture.russian:67981 soc.culture.baltics:22020 In article <01bbe6c0$01e959c0$LocalHost@stella.glas.apc.org>, stella@glasnet.ru says... > >alex says... >> "Germanic", "Latin" ?????? >> NATA "dominated by Germany" ????? >> >> What an idiot..... >> >> And obviously a Russian communist-imperialist type...... >> >> Why doesn't he go back to his shitty Russian-Sovok rathole where he >belongs???? > >I can't speak on behalf of Victor, but may be he's waiting for Alex to grow >adult and learn the difference between a discussion and a street fight. > FUCK YOU SOVOK ! FUCK YOUR RATTY SOVOK-RUSSIAN COUNTRY AS WELL..... BTW, DID THE RUSSIANS EVER GET AROUND TO TAKING THE *SHIT* (HUMAN EXCREMENT) GIARDIA, E.COLI ETC...OUT OF THE WATER SUPPLY IN MOSCOW..... OR DO THEY STILL PREFER TO DRINK IT ? "HO, HO, HO !!! IS GOOD WATER HERE IN THE MOSKOW!!!!" :)))) DID YOU KNOW THAT 1/3 OF ALL THE BIRTHS IN RUSSIA..... THEY ARE BORN RETARDED OR HAVE OTHER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HANDICAPS???? THE SLUTS SHOULDN'T DRINK SO MUCH VODKA AND SNIFF SO MUCH GLUE WHILST PREGNANT, NOW SHOULD THEY???? THE MEDICAL "DOKTORS" THERE SHOULD READ MORE WESTERN SCIENCE AS WELL....... OR ARE THEY TOO STUPID???? From alex@agate.net Sat Jan 25 19:49:16 EST 1997 Article: 104858 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,alt.current-events.ukraine,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.soviet,relcom.politics,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel Subject: Anti-Semitic: Ukraine FAQ Plus: The Ukrainian Weekly Preview (plus TOC!) January 19th, 1997, is now ONLINE! Date: 21 Jan 1997 01:17:31 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 54 Message-ID: <5c15fb$qe8@service-2.agate.net> References: <32e030e0.930509@news.teleserve.ca> <5btaab$65p@service-2.agate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36073 alt.current-events.ukraine:7748 soc.culture.europe:65746 soc.culture.polish:66626 soc.culture.german:91225 soc.culture.soviet:104858 soc.culture.jewish:230056 soc.culture.israel:85377 In article <5btaab$65p@service-2.agate.net>, alex@agate.net says... >> >>> On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:41:05 -0500, FAQ@Tryzub.com (Bohdan Peter >>> Rekshynskyj) wrote: >>> >>> >Greetings, >>> > >>> > The latest *preview* of the Ukrainian Weekly is now available >>> >on the Ukraine FAQ Plus site! This is an exclusive regular >>> >feature each week containing timely and the most up to date >>> >information on Ukraine and the Ukrainian Diaspora available >>> >on Internet. > FAQ@Tryzub.com (Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj) has "contributions" >from the well known Ukrainian anti-Semite, Jarema A. Buchynsky, >a poster of many anti-Semitic posts. He (Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj) >has expressed support for many of Buchynsky's >views in his public postings. > >Jarema A. Buchynsky has also contributed items to the "Ukraine FAQ Plus" site, >and also works (worked?) at the _Ukrainian Weekly_, based in Jersey City, New >Jersey. > >Also, why should Rekshynskyj spam the Polish group >and others with his anti-Semitic >Ukrainian site????? > >Why did he *not* ***condemn*** the Ukrainian anti-Semite and instead >accept articles from him and express public support and agreement >from this anti-Semite and member of the neo-nazi, socialist Ukrainian >organization known as UNA-UNSO?? > >Why does he, Rekshynskyj, bemoan the lack of censorship and >lack of "moderation" _CENSORSHIP_ on soc.culture.ukrainian >and alt.current-events.ukraine??? > >Why is his cohort, a woman of dubious moral repute, and a censor of >soc.culture.russian.moderated??? > >A known, "stukach" (informant) who has always used the most, >underhanded methods, lies, and forgeries in order to silence >known pro-democracy,anti-Soviet/Sovok, free economy advocates??? > >Rekshynskyj, also a "stukach" (informant) > is also known to utilize similar methods, >though he is not known to cut and paste forged headers >on porno pictures and claim "sexual harrassment", >(at least, not as yet) unlike THAT Ukrainian "woman", who some claim >is a (foreign born prostitute (of Ukrainian origin) recently divorced from an American citizen. From alex@agate.net Sat Jan 25 19:52:30 EST 1997 Article: 104885 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2.nyu.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,alt.current-events.ukraine,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.soviet,relcom.politics Subject: Re: Ukraine FAQ Plus: The Ukrainian Weekly Preview (plus TOC!) January 19th, 1997, is now ONLINE! Date: 19 Jan 1997 14:15:36 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5btaab$65p@service-2.agate.net> References: <32e030e0.930509@news.teleserve.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36122 alt.current-events.ukraine:7762 soc.culture.europe:66042 soc.culture.polish:66842 soc.culture.german:91349 soc.culture.soviet:104885 In article , yperkhou@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu says... > > >On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Wasz Pan wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:41:05 -0500, FAQ@Tryzub.com (Bohdan Peter >> Rekshynskyj) wrote: >> >> >Greetings, >> > >> > The latest *preview* of the Ukrainian Weekly is now available >> >on the Ukraine FAQ Plus site! This is an exclusive regular >> >feature each week containing timely and the most up to date >> >information on Ukraine and the Ukrainian Diaspora available >> >on Internet. > >[...] > >> My comment--- Fuck OFF from our polish group sobaka >> >> > >How cute... > FAQ@Tryzub.com (Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj) has "contributions" >from the well known Ukrainian anti-Semite, Jarema A. Buchynsky, a poster of many anti-Semitic posts. He (Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj) has expressed support for many of Buchynsky's views in his public postings. Jarema A. Buchynsky has also contributed items to the Ukraine FAQ Plus site, and also works (worked?) at the Ukrainian Weekly, based in Jersey City, New Jersey. Also, why should Rekshynskyj spam the Polish group with his anti-Semitic Ukrainian site????? Why did he *not* ***condemn*** the Ukrainian anti-Semite and instead accept articles from him and express public support and agreement >from this anti-Semite and member of the neo-nazi, socialist Ukrainian organization known as UNA-UNSO?? Why does he, Rekshynskyj, bemoan the lack of censorship and lack of "moderation" _CENSORSHIP_ on soc.culture.ukrainian and alt.current-events.ukraine??? Why is his cohort, a women of dubious moral repute, and censor of soc.culture.russian.moderated??? A known, "stukach" (informant) who has always used the most, underhanded methods, lies, and forgeries in order to silence known pro-democracy, free economy advocates??? Rekshynskyj, also a "stukach" (informant) is also known to utilize similar methods, though he is not known to cut and paste forged headers on porno pictures and claim "sexual harrassment", (at least, not as yet) unlike that women, who some claim is a prostitute from Ukraine. From alex@agate.net Sat Jan 25 23:28:53 EST 1997 Article: 104886 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: alt.current-events.russia,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.soviet,relcom.politics,ukr.politics Subject: Re: na hren idi, Smirnov Nikolay Sergeevich Date: 21 Jan 1997 22:20:08 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 82 Message-ID: <5c3feo$8l5@service-2.agate.net> References: <32E3BE04.5D@don.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu alt.current-events.russia:16649 soc.culture.russian:70277 soc.culture.ukrainian:36124 soc.culture.soviet:104886 In article <32E3BE04.5D@don.ru>, tihi@don.ru says... > >crypto govnjuk Nikolai Sergeyevich Smirnov wrote: >> >> V stat'e <32E155FD.689B@don.ru> 'a 100% pure russian nationalist, Dima >> Donskoj ' napisal(a): >> >> SMIRNOV, idi na hui... Kakogo huja takuju erundu pisat'? >> Zachem ty oskorbliaesh' nashih ukrainskih bratiev? >> Govno ty... vot ty kto. DO NOT INSULT THE *TRUE RUSSIAN* N.S. SMIRNOV, YOU SOVOK SAVAGE !!! >> >> 1. I do not insult our Ukrainian brethren. I state only facts. Recent but >> yet unpublished studies indicate that Ukrainians are born with IQ fifteen >> percent lower than that of Belorussians. Belorussians have IQ that is >> between five and ten persent lower than that of Russians. > > > > >what studies, what IQs measures... > >Idi ty na hui so svoimi IQ... Anyhow, whom do you refer to? > > >This means that >> Belorussians can be taught to live in Russian society without need for >> much teaching and instructions. Ukrainians, if they take fist off of >> bottle of vodka or samogon', just want to turn off safety systems in >> nuclear reactors or foolaround with black box. Unsafe people! The peoples >> of the world, and in particular our Belarussian brethren, have seen what >> Ukrainians can do if on their own. One Chernobyl was enough. We do not >> need a second example. And Kiev, my Kiev, birthplace of Russian culture, >> is illegally occupied by Ukrainians who shamelessly discriminate against >> Russian population! > >Discrimination is one thing... >and what you wrote is completely different. >Yes, Russians are discriminated, but it is not the cause for >the hatred that you posted here. BTW, many ukrainians in the Russian Far >East suffered from the cultural suppression too..., but I do not see >that many ukrainian russia- haters as you. >Besides, you insult the brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, >grandfathers, and grandmothers of many many 'Russians'. >Only the true friendship between the nations can cure the effects of the >mutual mis-deeds, and I hope the best of what we had would be recalled >and become a sucbject of our pride. YOU ARE STUPID SOVOK BYDLO, DIMITRI Donskoj, WHO TALKS ABOUT "SPIRITUAL WEALTH" (????!) AND THE "BROTHER NATIONS" AND FOR _UKRAINE_ BYELORUS, KASHAKSTAN, AND OTHER NATIONS TO "UNITE" _UNDER_ RUSSIA, AND HOW THIS WOULD BE *GOOD* FOR ***RUSSIA*** AND SAY OTHER SHIT..... YOU ARE SOVOK BYDLO! > >overall, Your moronic hatemongering is feeble-minded... >Tak chto idi na hui. SUCK MY YANKEE DICK, YOU STUPID SOVOK! LONG LIVE NIKOLAI SMIRNOV AND *TRUE* RUSSIANS!!! DOWN WITH SOVOK BYDLO!!! > >BTW, once you wrote a very interesting article on the world prospectus >of the Russia's rule. I thought that was indeed brilliant and funny!!! >But with your recent postings it dawned me that your heart is full of >hatred and shit... > >Dima Donskoj, >a 100% pure Russian nationalist DO NOT CALL YOURSELF "RUSSIAN" YOU SOVOK "BYDLO" DONSKOJ !!!!! From alex@agate.net Wed Jan 29 17:26:12 EST 1997 Article: 69826 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!news.cs.umb.edu!CTCnet!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.talk Subject: Re: Lenin vsegda zhivoj ! Date: 14 Jan 1997 04:14:47 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5bf17n$kfo@service-2.agate.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:69826 soc.culture.ukrainian:35972 In article , nikst@glas.apc.org says... > >From: nikst@glas.apc.org ( ) > >Chicago Tribune >12 January 1997 >LENIN TO UNDERGO HIS REGULAR `FACELIFT' > > Vladimir Lenin, the Soviet leader whose body is still on public display in >Red Square 73 years after he died is scheduled to undergo his latest makeover >this month. > > Since his death in 1924, Lenin's mausoleum has closed for several months >every 18 months or so to enable embalmers to give the body a thorough >refreshening. > > A mausoleum official said Friday the building will be closed Jan. 27-March >24 and that the usual "repairs" would take place then. Scientists use such >periods to immerse Lenin's body in a tub of chemicals to hydrate it. > >Johnson's Russia List >12 January 1997 >djohnson@cdi.org >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lenin zhil, Lenin ziv, Lenin budet zhit'! > ....more then you can say about your wife's pizda.... From alex@agate.net Sun Feb 2 03:57:12 EST 1997 Article: 104959 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!news1.digital.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,alt.current-events.ukraine,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel Subject: ANTI-SEMITIC !: Ukraine FAQ Plus: The Ukrainian Weekly Preview (plus TOC!) January 26th, 1997, is now ONLINE! Date: 29 Jan 1997 06:48:46 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 138 Message-ID: <5cmrse$37e@service-2.agate.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36322 alt.current-events.ukraine:7858 soc.culture.europe:67784 soc.culture.polish:68086 soc.culture.german:91970 soc.culture.soviet:104959 soc.culture.russian:70845 soc.culture.jewish:233854 soc.culture.israel:87646 In article , FAQ@Tryzub.com says... > >Greetings, FROM A PERSON WHO IS AN UNDERHANDED, SNEAKING, *STUKACH* ( SOVIET WORD FOR *INFORMANT*). > > The latest *preview* of the Ukrainian Weekly is now available >on the Ukraine FAQ Plus site! WHICH HAS HAD ARTICLES FROM THE NOTED UKRAINIAN ANTI-SEMITE, JAREMA BUCHYNSKY, (FOR PROOF DO A DEJA NEWS RETRIVAL ON " swampvoors@aol.com ". > This is an exclusive regular >feature each week containing timely and the most up to date >information on Ukraine and the Ukrainian Diaspora available >on Internet. DOES IT HAVE THE "..ECLUSIVE, REGULAR", ANTI-SEMETIC, ARTICLES FROM JAREMA BUCHYNSKY, ALONG WITH HIS CALLS FOR WAR AGAINST JEWS, POLES, RUSSIANS, ETC ??? DO YOU, YOUR WEB SITE AND THE _UKRAINIAN WEEKLY_, STILL SUPPORT HIS DISGUSTING VIEWS ?? DOES HE STILL WORK AT THE _UKRAINIAN WEEKLY_ ??? > >* * * * * * * >A new feature - the Table of Contents (TOC) for the issue is now available! >* * * * * * * ANYMORE "GOOD AND WONDERFUL" ARTICLES FROM THE "NATIONAL SOCIALIST", UKRAINIAN NAZI-LIKE POLITICAL PARTY "UNA-UNSO" JAREMA BUCHYNSKY AND YOURSELF THERE ? DO YOU STILL SUPPORT HIS BELIEFS AND STILL CALL FOR *CENSORSHIP* OF FREE SPEECH ??? > > The Ukrainian Weekly is the largest weekly newspaper (in English) >extant in the Western world covering Ukrainian issues both in Ukraine >and in the Ukrainian Diaspora. WHAT IS THE POSITION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE AS REGARDS JAREMA BUCHYNSKY (swampvoors@aol.com) ??? > The preview is available on Internet at >the address of the Ukraine FAQ Plus Project. You can obtain >subscription information in order to read the complete articles >when you visit the web-site. ANY "GOOD" CALLS FOR WAR AND SCREAMS FOR THE DEATH OF JEWS AND A NATIONAL SOCIALIST AGENDA FOR POST-SOVIET UKRAINE??? ANY CALLS FOR A "GREATER UKRAINE" INTO THE TERRITORIES OF HER NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES AND THE SETTING UP OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND GAS CHAMBERS AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY JAREMA BUCHYNSKY ?? MORE CALLS FOR CENSORSHIP BY YOURSELF?? > The Ukrainian Weekly is funded by >the Ukrainian National Association and your subscriptions. AND BY JAREMA BUCHYNSKY AND YOURSELF, UNFORTUNATELY. WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL VIEW OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IN REGARDS TO THE POSTINGS OF JAREMA BUCHYNSKY ? > Their website >may be perused at http://www.tryzub.com/UNA/. > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* * * * * > We also have a new little section in the "About Ukraine" page >where people may request that their pages dealing (accurately) >with Ukraine may be enplaced! Drop us an email at faq@tryzub.com >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* * * * * > Please note that one may now browse the FAQ project using >an advanced three dimensional navigational tool. Point your >browser to http://www.tryzub.com/ for information on how >to download the plug-in for your browser and the actual "mcf" >image which is used for this. >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* * * * * > >The address of the Ukraine FAQ Plus Project is now: > >http://www.std.com/sabre/UKRAINE.html > >Either click the button labelled "Current Events" by the >Tryzub (Trident) graphic or scroll down and click the >"Current Events" section summary to access this latest >news. > >As always, please feel free to email us at faq@tryzub.com >with comments. YOU HAVE IT IN PUBLIC, STILL BETTER, EH ? >We always are looking for contributions >as well. FROM PEOPLE LIKE JAREMA A. BUCHYNSKY ?!?!?! > > Regards, > > Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj WHY NOT AKNOWLEDGE AND CONDEMN SUCH ANTI-HUMAN CREATURES AS DECENT PEOPLE HAVE ? From anazaren@concentric.net Fri Feb 7 10:23:53 EST 1997 Article: 71327 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: April Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,ukr.politics,relcom.politics,alt.current-events.russia Subject: Re: *STUKACH* H. K. THOMAS (was: Re: Smirnov's comedy and HKT {WISE HAG} Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 01:17:04 -0500 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 323 Message-ID: <32FAC8E0.7C0E@concentric.net> References: <854943843.7236@dejanews.com> <32F8EDEF.42DA@concentric.net> <855206749.20995@dejanews.com> Reply-To: anazaren@concentric.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc094076.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) To: alex@agate.net Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:71327 soc.culture.ukrainian:36548 alt.current-events.russia:16857 alex@agate.net wrote: > > In article <32F8EDEF.42DA@concentric.net>, > anazaren@concentric.net wrote: > > > > alex@agate.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >In article <5cuee7$dir$1@kirin.wwa.com>,Henrietta Thomas (hkt@wwa.com) > > > pontificates... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>[soc.culture.ukrainian added to Newsgroups: line] > > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>HKT commented on Smirnov's disgusting comments as being those of an > > > >>>amusing troll. I wonder if she would find a Nazi "comedian"s jokes > > > >>>concerning Jews, Poles etc. equally amusing, especially when > > > cross-posted > > > >>>to Jewish and Polish newsgroups like Smirnov's garbage is onto > > > Ukrainian > > > >>>ones. > > > >> > > > >>You should have seen the garbage Dan Korolyshyn, George Rycar, and a > > > >>few other Ukrainian patriots used to crosspost into soc.culture.russian > > > >>from soc.culture.ukrainian. > > > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU MEAN "GARBAGE"???? > > > > > > > >THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY AND LANGUAGES, ETC... > > > > > > > >IS FAR SUPERIOR TO YOURS.... > > > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU MEAN CROSSPOST "FROM", thomas ?? > > > > > > > >I THOUGHT THEY POSTED "FROM" SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN, > > > > > > > >THE WAY *YOU* CLAIMED TO POST FROM S.C.RUSSIAN, REMEMBER? :))) > > > > > > > >THIS IS *USENET*, REMEMBER? > > > > > > > >EXPLAIN YOUR FINE LOGIC... > > > > > > > >"ETHNIC CLEANSING", EH ??? > > > > > > > >WHO ARE *YOU*, THEREFORE, TO POST TO A *RUSSIAN* GROUP, > > > >BY YOUR STUPID, PRIMITIVE, SOCIALIST, BULLSHIT REASONING??? > > > > > > > >YOUR BRAIN IS AS DELAPIDATED AS YOUR FLABBY, WRINKLY BODY. > > > > > > > >HOW MANY DECADES AGO SINCE YOU HAD A MAN INSIDE YOU??? > > > > > > > >NOW YOU SEEK SOVOKS INSTEAD??? > > > > > > > > FU!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >>Then you would understand why I think Mr. > > > >>Smirnov is a humorous troll and not to be taken seriously. > > > > > > > >YOU DO NOT THINK... > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>Btw, we have had some very malicious articles crossposted from s.c.r. > > > >>into soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.polish. Also, Poles have > > > >>sometimes crossposted negative stuff into soc.culture.russian. So you > > > >>see, there are no real innocents here. > > > > > > > >??????? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>Since s.c.r. and s.c.u. are both unmoderated groups, you have three > > > >>options in regard to Smirnov: > > > > > > > >AH!!! > > > > > > > >MORE ADVICE!!! :)) > > > >> > > > >> 1. Killfile him. > > > >> > > > >> 2. Peel soc.culture.ukrainian out of the Newsgroups: line. > > > >> > > > >> 3. Convert s.c.u. into a moderated group. > > > > > > > > > > > >SUCH "ADVICE" AND "WISDOM" > > > >FROM A LONELY, IGNORANT, PRETENTIOUS FOOL... > > > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU RECOMEND IN TERMS OF VIBRATORS??? > > > > > > > >> > > > >>Nobody can stop him from posting to unmoderated groups. :-( > > > > > > > >YOU HAVE CALLED FOR *CENSORSHIP* OF INTERNET > > > >IN YOUR POSTINGS IN OTHER GROUPS, REMEMBER? > > > > > > > >YOU ARE ALSO A *STUKACH*.... THAT SAYS IT ALL.... > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>Henrietta > > > >>hkt@wwa.com > > > >> > > > > > > UPON FURTHER REFLECTION.... > > > > > > EVEN THE VERY > > > *LOWEST*, *FAT*, UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKA IN THE WORLD, FROM HOUSTON, TX > > > IS EMB-@SS-ED ABOUT BEING A FUCKIN' > > > > > > *STUKACH* ! ! ! > > > > > > (and you are not!) > > > > > > P' TFU ! > > > > > > I SPIT IN YOUR FACE ! > > > > > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > > > > What the hell is a stukach??????!!!!!!! Alex, you've got no f%$%@*ing > > manners. I wish you'd just go rot in hell. > > I AM DEEPLY WOUNDED... I BLEED FROM MY HEART AS PROFUSELY > AS YOU DO BETWEEN YOUR LEGS, MY PLUMP LUMP... > > > Maybe there you'll find the > > above mentioned vibrators you're so direrly in need of. > > HMMM... THAT LINE MUST HAVE HAD A VERY DEEP IMPACT ... > > >You want to > > talk about hypocrites, little lame-o, you should take a good look in the > > mirror. You're the one so incensed about HKT's support of censoring > > you're posts, yet you got the damn nerve to rave on about swampoorvool > > THAT'S "SWAMPVOORS" (SWAMPVOORS@AOL.COM) > DO A DEJA NEWS SEARCH UNDER, "AUTHOR PROFILE"... > > > (whatever) controversial views(allegedly) > > ALLEGED???? > > WHAT REPOSTS OF HIS POSTS AND GROUP/GROPE E-MAIL WOULD YOU LIKE TO > SEE BEFORE IT PENETRATES AS DEEPLY AS YOUR SOVOK HUSBAND?? > > BTW, APRIL.... DID HE GET A JOB YET? I SEE FROM SOME OF YOUR POSTS, IN > OTHER GROUPS, THAT HAS BEEN A *BIG* PROBLEM... > > ARE YOU STILL HAVING PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF *DOCUMENTING* "OFFICE EXPENSES", > AND DIFFICULTIES WITH THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AND STILL LOOKING > FOR AN ATTORNEY? > > YOU KNOW.... YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CLAIMED YOUR UNEMPLOYED UKRAINIAN SOVOK > SPOUSE FOR PROVIDING YOU WITH STUD SERVICE... THAT IS NOT ALLOWABLE... > EVEN IF IT IS IN A HOME OFFICE... > > NOR HIS BEER MONEY EITHER... > > BTW, HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH THE INS ? > > WOULD YOU LIKE SOME REPOSTS OF ALL THE ABOVE... FROM YOU ? > > THAT CAN BE ARRANGED MY HIGHLY CHOLORIC SWEET.. > > > and strongly trumpet to the > > world not to support those business(newspapers, websites) who post hiS > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > opinions. > > (WHERE DID YOU GET THE ABOVE IDEA FROM?!) > > I MERELY ASKED THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS IN QUESTION, *CLARIFY* THEIR > POSITION AS REGARDS EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANTI-SEMITIES,CENSORSHIP > CRETINS, GENOCIDAL WARMONGERS AND "STUKACHI" ETC.. (PERHAPS YOU AND YOUR > HUSBAND MAY CARE TO APPLY AS I HAVE SEEN NO RESPONSE FROM THEM... YOU > EVIDENTLY CAN QUALIFY AS REGARDS YOUR LOGIC, AND "SOFT" ANTI-SEMITISM.. > AND YOUR HUSBAND NEEDS A JOB... THE MONEY IS EVIDENTLY RUNNING LOW!!! > :))) > > WHAT CAN BE POSSIBLY WRONG WITH THAT, APRIL NAZARENKO ? > > ARE YOU OFTEN DELIRIOUS? > HAS YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK DRONE BEEN MISTAKING THE LOCAL MUSHROOMS > FOR SOVIET ONES? THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM MY DEAR... > THE: "IF FREE, IS FOR SOVIET ME, GOD DAMN !" ATTITUDE CAN BE DANGEROUSLY > STUPID... > > BTW, DIDN'T *ANY* AMERICAN MAN WANT YOU, LONG ENOUGH TO MARRY YOU? > > TOO LOOSE ? > > YOU HAD TO MARRY, NOT ONLY OUTSIDE YOUR WESTERN CULTURE, BUT EVEN > OUTSIDE YOUR SPECIES TO A "HOMO SOVIETICUS" AS THEY PROUDLY REFERED > TO THEMSELVES.... AND OF THAT SPECIES, THE LOWEST FORM OF SOVIET > (ASK THE RUSSIANS ABOUT THAT), A *UKRAINIAN*... TSK, TSK.... > TIMES MUST HAVE BEEN HARD... OR PERHAPS... NOT HARD ENOUGH FOR YOU... > > ALL YOUR POSTS ON "FEMINISM".... DOES HE STILL BEAT YOU ? > DO YOU PUNISH HIM, BY SITTING ON HIS FACE WITH THAT PIZDA OF YOURS ? > > HOW SUBLIMELY SUPINE... > > (OR LIKE ALL SOVOKS, IS HE TOO STUPID AND LAZY TO LIFT HIS TONGUE ?) > > >Listen, mud head, if you're going rave on about censorship > > than maybe you need to practice what YOU preach! > > ??????? > > >You might not like > > what other people have to say, > > YOU'VE NOTICED ! > > >so at least have the balls to debate with > > them, and keep your censorship rants to yourself, > > TALK ABOUT "BALLS" TO YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK, MY DEAR.. > > I AM NOT AT ALL FOR CENSORSHIP, YOU "CLEVER" FAT TWOT.... > (NOT EVEN A GOOD TRY AT BEING "CUNNING" THERE!) > YOUR "FRIENDS", THE SOVOKS, BURNT OUT OLD SOCIALISTS FROM CHICAGO, > ANTI-SEMITES, THE UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKA ARE.... REMEMBER ? > > I HAVEN'T ANY DIFFICULTY IN CIRCULATING THEIR (ABOVE LISTED) > MAGNIFICENT THOUGHTS TO A WIDER AUDIENCE FOR GREATER DISTRIBUTION > AND APPENDING MY OWN, SMALL HUMBLE OPINION ... > > WHY DOES THIS DRIVE YOU INTO AN ALMOST HYSTERICAL SEXUAL FRENZY ? > DOES IT SATISFY SOME DEEPLY SEATED (NOT DEEPLY SEATED ENOUGH?) > UNMET NEED ? > (DON'T BUY YOUR UNEMPLOYED SPOUSE SO MUCH CHEAP VODKA! > REMIND HIM THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE A GREEN CARD YET! :)) > > > since you clearly > > cannot remain clear headed about who is the REAL hypocrite here! > > AH YES! "...clearly..... remain clear headed" > MY! MY! > HOW FREUDIAN ! > > I SHALL RESPOND TO ONE OF YOUR POSTS ABOUT YOUR HUMBLE SERVANT > (NOT YOUR IMPORTED, NOT QUITE PAID FOR, UKRAINIAN SOVOK HUSBAND) > WHEN TIME AND INCLINATION SO MOVES ME... > > > > > Go Soak Your Head! > > NOT MY "Head!" IN *THAT* SLOPPY PIZDA OF YOURS!!!! > > I AM NOT IN DESPERATE NEED OF A GREEN CARD. > YOU MUST BE REFERING TO YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK HUSBAND.... > > YOU ARE VERY RUDE ! > > ... AND VULGAR BESIDES.... > > P' TFU ! > > I SPIT IN YOUR FACE TOO ! > > > > > April > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Listen, you little twerp, obviously you would never make a very good spy, considering you completely have no idea who I am, who my husband is,etc. etc. If you would have taken the time to browse through my posts (little spy, or maybe stukach as you would prefer it) you might have a completely different understanding. I don't need to justify myself to you, but since you apparently do not know how to do your homework, I am even more inclined to disbelieve anything that comes out of your rotten mouth. I don't know how you decided to come to your rather absurd conclusions, but just as you've managed to completely misconstrue my posts, I am sure you have done the same to others as well. You cannot convince me that swampvoors is an anti-semite, especially since you have chosen to misrepresent what I have posted as well. A couple points of interest: My husband isn't without a greencard, stupid, he married me. He is not without a job. If we were so bereft, as you infer, do you think we would own a computer??!!! Damn, you are really, really dumb. FYI, I happen to know alot of people who don't have the conveniences of a computer, so when I post questions about the INS, or employment etc. it's usually to gather as much info as possible for friends(successfully), because, (if you are smart enough to follow this) when my husband married me, got his greencard, he also became legal to work in the U.S., so why on earth would such posts relate to us and our situation??? Force yourself to Think, I know it's difficult for you. Oh, I do NOT live in Chicago,I have NO friends in Chicago that I know of, I am NOT an anti-semite(softly even), I have no problem with anyone who is jewish, I never knew whether a person was jewish or not unless they told me, It never stopped me from friendship with them and I cannot understand why anyone WOULD have a problem with someone who is jewish. I do, however, have a problem with the way you brazenly claim all these people to be anti-semites and post their phone numbers and addresses! Why should I believe YOU when you twist around what I too have posted. Let me get this straight, someone disagrees with you and *POOF* like that they're an anti-semite. You have lost ALL credibility. My husband IS employed, we do NOT have any problems with the INS, my husband does NOT beat me, I could go on, but the point is you ARE a hypocrite, a ***LIAR***, and YOU are the "VULGAR" and "RUDE" one. I suggest you look these words up in the dictionary because you obviously do not know what they mean. Instead of being nasty to everyone, you would do well to call out swampvoors and debate WITH him about his views(instead of trolling behind his back). Oh and stop spying behind my back, too, you LYING little stukach. April P.S. I am NOT fat!! What makes you think that the only women who marry immigrants are desperate and fat?? My husband LOVES me, baby, sorry if you can't understand that. Maybe you're the one having problems with relationships, haven't found someone desperate enough to marry you??? Can't find someone FAT enough to put up with your foul mouth??!! From alex@agate.net Fri Feb 7 13:16:25 EST 1997 Article: 71262 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.usa,alt.news Subject: Re: ANTI-SEMITIC !: Ukraine FAQ Plus: The Ukrainian Weekly Preview (plus TOC!) January 26th, 1997, is now ONLINE! Date: 4 Feb 1997 23:04:47 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 178 Message-ID: <5d8fag$53u@service-2.agate.net> References: <5cmrse$37e@service-2.agate.net> <1997Feb4.133254@mm.huji.ac.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.jewish:235390 soc.culture.israel:88563 soc.culture.ukrainian:36516 soc.culture.russian:71262 soc.culture.usa:160627 In article <1997Feb4.133254@mm.huji.ac.il>, moshes@mm.huji.ac.il says... > >In article <5cmrse$37e@service-2.agate.net>, alex@agate.net (alex) writes: >> In article , FAQ@Tryzub.com says... >>> >>>Greetings, >> >> FROM A PERSON WHO IS AN UNDERHANDED, SNEAKING, >> *STUKACH* ( SOVIET WORD FOR *INFORMANT*). >> >> >>> >>> The latest *preview* of the Ukrainian Weekly is now available >>>on the Ukraine FAQ Plus site! >> >> WHICH HAS HAD ARTICLES FROM THE NOTED >> UKRAINIAN ANTI-SEMITE, JAREMA BUCHYNSKY, >> (FOR PROOF DO A DEJA NEWS RETRIVAL ON >> " swampvoors@aol.com ". >> >> >>> This is an exclusive regular >>>feature each week containing timely and the most up to date >>>information on Ukraine and the Ukrainian Diaspora available >>>on Internet. >> >> DOES IT HAVE THE "..ECLUSIVE, REGULAR", >> ANTI-SEMETIC, ARTICLES FROM JAREMA BUCHYNSKY, >> ALONG WITH HIS CALLS FOR WAR AGAINST JEWS, POLES, >> RUSSIANS, ETC ??? >> >> DO YOU, YOUR WEB SITE AND THE _UKRAINIAN WEEKLY_, >> STILL SUPPORT HIS DISGUSTING VIEWS ?? >> >> DOES HE STILL WORK AT THE _UKRAINIAN WEEKLY_ ??? >> >> >>> >>>* * * * * * * >>>A new feature - the Table of Contents (TOC) for the issue is now available! >>>* * * * * * * >> >> ANYMORE "GOOD AND WONDERFUL" ARTICLES FROM >> THE "NATIONAL SOCIALIST", UKRAINIAN NAZI-LIKE >> POLITICAL PARTY "UNA-UNSO" JAREMA >> BUCHYNSKY AND YOURSELF THERE ? >> >> DO YOU STILL SUPPORT HIS BELIEFS AND STILL CALL >> FOR *CENSORSHIP* OF FREE SPEECH ??? >> >> >>> >>> The Ukrainian Weekly is the largest weekly newspaper (in English) >>>extant in the Western world covering Ukrainian issues both in Ukraine >>>and in the Ukrainian Diaspora. >> >> >> WHAT IS THE POSITION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE >> AS REGARDS JAREMA BUCHYNSKY (swampvoors@aol.com) ??? >> >>> The preview is available on Internet at >>>the address of the Ukraine FAQ Plus Project. You can obtain >>>subscription information in order to read the complete articles >>>when you visit the web-site. >> >> >> ANY "GOOD" CALLS FOR WAR AND SCREAMS FOR THE DEATH >> OF JEWS AND A NATIONAL SOCIALIST AGENDA FOR >> POST-SOVIET UKRAINE??? >> >> ANY CALLS FOR A "GREATER UKRAINE" INTO THE TERRITORIES >> OF HER NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES AND THE SETTING >> UP OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND GAS CHAMBERS >> AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY JAREMA BUCHYNSKY ?? >> >> MORE CALLS FOR CENSORSHIP BY YOURSELF?? >> >> >>> The Ukrainian Weekly is funded by >>>the Ukrainian National Association and your subscriptions. >> >> AND BY JAREMA BUCHYNSKY AND YOURSELF, UNFORTUNATELY. >> >> WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL VIEW OF THOSE >> ORGANIZATIONS IN REGARDS TO THE POSTINGS >> OF JAREMA BUCHYNSKY ? >> >> >> >>> Their website >>>may be perused at http://www.tryzub.com/UNA/. >>> >>>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>>* * * * * >>> We also have a new little section in the "About Ukraine" page >>>where people may request that their pages dealing (accurately) >>>with Ukraine may be enplaced! Drop us an email at faq@tryzub.com >>>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>>* * * * * >>> Please note that one may now browse the FAQ project using >>>an advanced three dimensional navigational tool. Point your >>>browser to http://www.tryzub.com/ for information on how >>>to download the plug-in for your browser and the actual "mcf" >>>image which is used for this. >>>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>>* * * * * >>> >>>The address of the Ukraine FAQ Plus Project is now: >>> >>>http://www.std.com/sabre/UKRAINE.html >>> >>>Either click the button labelled "Current Events" by the >>>Tryzub (Trident) graphic or scroll down and click the >>>"Current Events" section summary to access this latest >>>news. >>> >>>As always, please feel free to email us at faq@tryzub.com >>>with comments. >> >> YOU HAVE IT IN PUBLIC, STILL BETTER, EH ? >> >> >>>We always are looking for contributions >>>as well. >> >> >> FROM PEOPLE LIKE JAREMA A. BUCHYNSKY ?!?!?! >> >> >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Bohdan Peter Rekshynskyj >> >> WHY NOT AKNOWLEDGE AND >> CONDEMN SUCH ANTI-HUMAN CREATURES >> AS DECENT PEOPLE HAVE ? >> >Please post _just_ to those NG's that are relevant. I saw this on >soc.culture.jewish. It has no place there. Please confine followups >to NG's that are interested. Just because someone before you was >inconsiderate, is no reason to propogate such behavior. TIA > >Posted _only_ to soc.culture.ukrainian > >Moshe Schorr I SHOULD THINK THAT THE VOICE OF A VICIOUS ANTI-SEMITE, CALLING FOR WAR, CONCENTRATION CAMPS, GAS CHAMBERS ETC.. _WOULD_ BE OF INTEREST TO SOC.CULTURE.JEWISH.... AS WELL AS SOC.CULTURE.USA ETC... perhaps not to YOU, Moshe... Forewarned is forearmed.... Many of the people in s.c.jewish are from the ex-Soviet Union. Many of the people in s.c.israel are from the ex-Soviet Union. Many *Americans* do not like anti-Semitism.... how about you? In any case, you opinion is your opinion.... I don't think I will call _THE UKRAINIAN WEEKLY_ the Ukraine FAQ Plus Project or call Jarema A. Buchynsky and have him howl for you and your family to be placed in a gas chamber.... Some of us do not like this.... pity that you don't mind... I do think it possible that many organizations, Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, Americans etc... and yes, possibly even Jews (not the ones like you) may wish to have this creature and his allies exposed. I do think, that any organization that deals with these people, should be aware of their tastes, habits and proclivities... I would like to know who is behind me when I turn my back in a dark alley..... From alex@agate.net Fri Feb 7 13:17:55 EST 1997 Article: 71259 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 00:31:19 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: Was the USSR mainly stopped and crushed Hitler in WW2? To Jennifer Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,alt.current-events.russia Message-ID: <855210347.23397@dejanews.com> Organization: JUST SAY NO TO SOVIETS!!! References: <5aivro$bl5@news1.relcom.ru> <32D025A3.6108@warwick.net> <32d1d67a.3647020@news.inetworld.net> <187cd$a2024.81@news.comet.net> <32D9B109.419D@po.cwru.edu> <5cmoml$i76@panix2.panix.com> <32f012a8.4660935@news.inetworld.net> X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Feb 06 06:25:47 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 94 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.taiwan:136969 soc.culture.russian:71259 soc.culture.ukrainian:36513 alt.current-events.russia:16841 In article , "M.Pavlova" wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 rcf@inetworld.net wrote: > > > On 29 Jan 1997 00:54:29 -0500, llama@panix.com (Sergey Fokin) wrote: > > > > >In <32D9B109.419D@po.cwru.edu> "M. Rogers" > > But from that war [in Finland], > > the Russians learned something they'd forgotten - how to use their > > winter to even a fight. > > > > =Bob > > Oh, yes it is such an important factor- the cold. The rest doesn`t really > mean much compared to it. If only Russia was a tropical country, Germany > would have won. > > BTW, what about the great "non-winter" battles? What made the Nazis lose > then? May be extreme heat of continental climate summer/spring whaterver? > > Please, do not take offence, but speaking seriously: do you really beleive the > idea defeated the Nazis ( and Napoleon for that matter )? OF-COURSE!!! > Why all the conquerors pathologically forget the cold and its fatal > danger? BECAUSE THEY ALL FIGURED THAT RUSSIANS WERE SO STUPID AND INCOMPETENT THAT THEY ALL BECAME OVERCONFIDENT... EXCEPT FOR THE MONGOLS OF-COURSE... > Masha. BTW, WHAT OTHER KIND OF OPINIONS CAN A CHAUVANISTIC RUSSIAN SOVOK HAVE, OTHER THEN THOSE ABOVE (PLUS YOUR CHARMING OPINIONS ON CHECHENS) ? SEE BELOW: > > Article 1 of 2 > > Subject: learning astrology in depth > From: "M.Pavlova" > Date: 1996/10/08 > Message-Id: > Organization: University of Kent at Canterbury, United Kingdom. > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Newsgroups: alt.astrology > > Hi, everyone! > > It is Maria. I am a beginner in astrology and would like to improve my > knowledge. Could anyone advise me as to what books I could get in Britain > to do so? And where I could get them. > > Thank you very much beforehand. Maria. AND: Subject: ?????? From: "M.V.Pavlova" Date: 1996/03/16 Message-Id: Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astrology If possible could anyone send me some information about my signs. I don't remember how all of them are called. I am a complete beginner in astrology. I was born on 3.07.76, at 16:45, in Tomsk, Russia ( Western Siberia ). HEY CHUDOV! HERE'S SOMETHING FOR YOU TO E-FUCK! MUCH BETTER THEN A DIVORCED UKRAINIAN PROSTITUKA! YOUNGER AND FATTER AND MORE STUPID TOO!!! -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Fri Feb 7 14:34:48 EST 1997 Article: 71268 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.dra.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 23:31:06 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: *STUKACH* H. K. THOMAS (was: Re: Smirnov's comedy and HKT {WISE HAG} Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,ukr.politics,relcom.politics,alt.current-events.russia Message-ID: <855206749.20995@dejanews.com> Organization: GOLDEN SHOWERS ON APRIL To: dlv@dm.com,vshir@aol.com References: <854943843.7236@dejanews.com> <32F8EDEF.42DA@concentric.net> X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Feb 06 05:25:50 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 282 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:71268 soc.culture.ukrainian:36521 alt.current-events.russia:16843 In article <32F8EDEF.42DA@concentric.net>, anazaren@concentric.net wrote: > > alex@agate.net wrote: > > > > > > > >In article <5cuee7$dir$1@kirin.wwa.com>,Henrietta Thomas (hkt@wwa.com) > > pontificates... > > >> > > >> > > >>[soc.culture.ukrainian added to Newsgroups: line] > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>HKT commented on Smirnov's disgusting comments as being those of an > > >>>amusing troll. I wonder if she would find a Nazi "comedian"s jokes > > >>>concerning Jews, Poles etc. equally amusing, especially when > > cross-posted > > >>>to Jewish and Polish newsgroups like Smirnov's garbage is onto > > Ukrainian > > >>>ones. > > >> > > >>You should have seen the garbage Dan Korolyshyn, George Rycar, and a > > >>few other Ukrainian patriots used to crosspost into soc.culture.russian > > >>from soc.culture.ukrainian. > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU MEAN "GARBAGE"???? > > > > > >THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY AND LANGUAGES, ETC... > > > > > >IS FAR SUPERIOR TO YOURS.... > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU MEAN CROSSPOST "FROM", thomas ?? > > > > > >I THOUGHT THEY POSTED "FROM" SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN, > > > > > >THE WAY *YOU* CLAIMED TO POST FROM S.C.RUSSIAN, REMEMBER? :))) > > > > > >THIS IS *USENET*, REMEMBER? > > > > > >EXPLAIN YOUR FINE LOGIC... > > > > > >"ETHNIC CLEANSING", EH ??? > > > > > >WHO ARE *YOU*, THEREFORE, TO POST TO A *RUSSIAN* GROUP, > > >BY YOUR STUPID, PRIMITIVE, SOCIALIST, BULLSHIT REASONING??? > > > > > >YOUR BRAIN IS AS DELAPIDATED AS YOUR FLABBY, WRINKLY BODY. > > > > > >HOW MANY DECADES AGO SINCE YOU HAD A MAN INSIDE YOU??? > > > > > >NOW YOU SEEK SOVOKS INSTEAD??? > > > > > > FU!!! > > > > > > > > >>Then you would understand why I think Mr. > > >>Smirnov is a humorous troll and not to be taken seriously. > > > > > >YOU DO NOT THINK... > > > > > > > > >> > > >>Btw, we have had some very malicious articles crossposted from s.c.r. > > >>into soc.culture.jewish and soc.culture.polish. Also, Poles have > > >>sometimes crossposted negative stuff into soc.culture.russian. So you > > >>see, there are no real innocents here. > > > > > >??????? > > > > > > > > >> > > >>Since s.c.r. and s.c.u. are both unmoderated groups, you have three > > >>options in regard to Smirnov: > > > > > >AH!!! > > > > > >MORE ADVICE!!! :)) > > >> > > >> 1. Killfile him. > > >> > > >> 2. Peel soc.culture.ukrainian out of the Newsgroups: line. > > >> > > >> 3. Convert s.c.u. into a moderated group. > > > > > > > > >SUCH "ADVICE" AND "WISDOM" > > >FROM A LONELY, IGNORANT, PRETENTIOUS FOOL... > > > > > >WHAT DO YOU RECOMEND IN TERMS OF VIBRATORS??? > > > > > >> > > >>Nobody can stop him from posting to unmoderated groups. :-( > > > > > >YOU HAVE CALLED FOR *CENSORSHIP* OF INTERNET > > >IN YOUR POSTINGS IN OTHER GROUPS, REMEMBER? > > > > > >YOU ARE ALSO A *STUKACH*.... THAT SAYS IT ALL.... > > > > > > > >> > > >>Henrietta > > >>hkt@wwa.com > > >> > > > > UPON FURTHER REFLECTION.... > > > > EVEN THE VERY > > *LOWEST*, *FAT*, UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKA IN THE WORLD, FROM HOUSTON, TX > > IS EMB-@SS-ED ABOUT BEING A FUCKIN' > > > > *STUKACH* ! ! ! > > > > (and you are not!) > > > > P' TFU ! > > > > I SPIT IN YOUR FACE ! > > > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > > What the hell is a stukach??????!!!!!!! Alex, you've got no f%$%@*ing > manners. I wish you'd just go rot in hell. I AM DEEPLY WOUNDED... I BLEED FROM MY HEART AS PROFUSELY AS YOU DO BETWEEN YOUR LEGS, MY PLUMP LUMP... > Maybe there you'll find the > above mentioned vibrators you're so direrly in need of. HMMM... THAT LINE MUST HAVE HAD A VERY DEEP IMPACT ... >You want to > talk about hypocrites, little lame-o, you should take a good look in the > mirror. You're the one so incensed about HKT's support of censoring > you're posts, yet you got the damn nerve to rave on about swampoorvool THAT'S "SWAMPVOORS" (SWAMPVOORS@AOL.COM) DO A DEJA NEWS SEARCH UNDER, "AUTHOR PROFILE"... > (whatever) controversial views(allegedly) ALLEGED???? WHAT REPOSTS OF HIS POSTS AND GROUP/GROPE E-MAIL WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BEFORE IT PENETRATES AS DEEPLY AS YOUR SOVOK HUSBAND?? BTW, APRIL.... DID HE GET A JOB YET? I SEE FROM SOME OF YOUR POSTS, IN OTHER GROUPS, THAT HAS BEEN A *BIG* PROBLEM... ARE YOU STILL HAVING PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF *DOCUMENTING* "OFFICE EXPENSES", AND DIFFICULTIES WITH THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AND STILL LOOKING FOR AN ATTORNEY? YOU KNOW.... YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CLAIMED YOUR UNEMPLOYED UKRAINIAN SOVOK SPOUSE FOR PROVIDING YOU WITH STUD SERVICE... THAT IS NOT ALLOWABLE... EVEN IF IT IS IN A HOME OFFICE... NOR HIS BEER MONEY EITHER... BTW, HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH THE INS ? WOULD YOU LIKE SOME REPOSTS OF ALL THE ABOVE... FROM YOU ? THAT CAN BE ARRANGED MY HIGHLY CHOLORIC SWEET.. > and strongly trumpet to the > world not to support those business(newspapers, websites) who post hiS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > opinions. (WHERE DID YOU GET THE ABOVE IDEA FROM?!) I MERELY ASKED THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS IN QUESTION, *CLARIFY* THEIR POSITION AS REGARDS EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANTI-SEMITIES,CENSORSHIP CRETINS, GENOCIDAL WARMONGERS AND "STUKACHI" ETC.. (PERHAPS YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND MAY CARE TO APPLY AS I HAVE SEEN NO RESPONSE FROM THEM... YOU EVIDENTLY CAN QUALIFY AS REGARDS YOUR LOGIC, AND "SOFT" ANTI-SEMITISM.. AND YOUR HUSBAND NEEDS A JOB... THE MONEY IS EVIDENTLY RUNNING LOW!!! :))) WHAT CAN BE POSSIBLY WRONG WITH THAT, APRIL NAZARENKO ? ARE YOU OFTEN DELIRIOUS? HAS YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK DRONE BEEN MISTAKING THE LOCAL MUSHROOMS FOR SOVIET ONES? THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM MY DEAR... THE: "IF FREE, IS FOR SOVIET ME, GOD DAMN !" ATTITUDE CAN BE DANGEROUSLY STUPID... BTW, DIDN'T *ANY* AMERICAN MAN WANT YOU, LONG ENOUGH TO MARRY YOU? TOO LOOSE ? YOU HAD TO MARRY, NOT ONLY OUTSIDE YOUR WESTERN CULTURE, BUT EVEN OUTSIDE YOUR SPECIES TO A "HOMO SOVIETICUS" AS THEY PROUDLY REFERED TO THEMSELVES.... AND OF THAT SPECIES, THE LOWEST FORM OF SOVIET (ASK THE RUSSIANS ABOUT THAT), A *UKRAINIAN*... TSK, TSK.... TIMES MUST HAVE BEEN HARD... OR PERHAPS... NOT HARD ENOUGH FOR YOU... ALL YOUR POSTS ON "FEMINISM".... DOES HE STILL BEAT YOU ? DO YOU PUNISH HIM, BY SITTING ON HIS FACE WITH THAT PIZDA OF YOURS ? HOW SUBLIMELY SUPINE... (OR LIKE ALL SOVOKS, IS HE TOO STUPID AND LAZY TO LIFT HIS TONGUE ?) >Listen, mud head, if you're going rave on about censorship > than maybe you need to practice what YOU preach! ??????? >You might not like > what other people have to say, YOU'VE NOTICED ! >so at least have the balls to debate with > them, and keep your censorship rants to yourself, TALK ABOUT "BALLS" TO YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK, MY DEAR.. I AM NOT AT ALL FOR CENSORSHIP, YOU "CLEVER" FAT TWOT.... (NOT EVEN A GOOD TRY AT BEING "CUNNING" THERE!) YOUR "FRIENDS", THE SOVOKS, BURNT OUT OLD SOCIALISTS FROM CHICAGO, ANTI-SEMITES, THE UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKA ARE.... REMEMBER ? I HAVEN'T ANY DIFFICULTY IN CIRCULATING THEIR (ABOVE LISTED) MAGNIFICENT THOUGHTS TO A WIDER AUDIENCE FOR GREATER DISTRIBUTION AND APPENDING MY OWN, SMALL HUMBLE OPINION ... WHY DOES THIS DRIVE YOU INTO AN ALMOST HYSTERICAL SEXUAL FRENZY ? DOES IT SATISFY SOME DEEPLY SEATED (NOT DEEPLY SEATED ENOUGH?) UNMET NEED ? (DON'T BUY YOUR UNEMPLOYED SPOUSE SO MUCH CHEAP VODKA! REMIND HIM THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE A GREEN CARD YET! :)) > since you clearly > cannot remain clear headed about who is the REAL hypocrite here! AH YES! "...clearly..... remain clear headed" MY! MY! HOW FREUDIAN ! I SHALL RESPOND TO ONE OF YOUR POSTS ABOUT YOUR HUMBLE SERVANT (NOT YOUR IMPORTED, NOT QUITE PAID FOR, UKRAINIAN SOVOK HUSBAND) WHEN TIME AND INCLINATION SO MOVES ME... > > Go Soak Your Head! NOT MY "Head!" IN *THAT* SLOPPY PIZDA OF YOURS!!!! I AM NOT IN DESPERATE NEED OF A GREEN CARD. YOU MUST BE REFERING TO YOUR UKRAINIAN SOVOK HUSBAND.... YOU ARE VERY RUDE ! ... AND VULGAR BESIDES.... P' TFU ! I SPIT IN YOUR FACE TOO ! > > April -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Thu Feb 13 13:33:01 EST 1997 Article: 71800 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.aloha.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII Date: 13 Feb 1997 02:05:41 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 71 Message-ID: <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:71800 soc.culture.ukrainian:36685 soc.culture.europe:70807 soc.culture.usa:163740 In article , kda@netcom.com says... > >misha@Glue.umd.edu (Michael Stepanov) writes: > >>Timothy Watson (tmwatson@umich.edu) wrote: >>: [some pro-Western stuff] > >>I am amused to see how differently Munich Agreement and >>Non-Agression pact are treated. Here is a quote from >>"Warfare in XX century" encyclopedia: > >>"Munich Agreement. The Agreement between Hitler, Mussolini, >>Chamberlain and Daladier was signed on Sept.30 1938. Under >>its terms the Germanic (?) parts, and in the event several other >>parts, of Czechoslovakia were ceded to Germany. >>This averted war, which has been imminent, until Sept.1939 >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Brilliant thinking on the part of the allies and the author of this book. He >claims (falsely, BTW) that the war was imminent in sept 1938 and the Munich >sellout delayed it for one year. Let's assume that this was correct. So, >the Allies sacrificed Czechoslovakia to give Hitler an extra year to prepare >for war. Is that such a smart military move? I mean, you can destroy Hitler >in 1938 but you "brilliantly" decide to appease him, so he spends the extra >year preparing for war and then defeats you. Brilliant! > >>Chambarlain announced it as bringing "peace in our time". >>[end of quote] > >> What a face-saver! Notorious Soviet propaganda >> could not make it better. > >Even notorious Soviet propaganda was smart enough to realise that the above >statement is a self-mockery. On the one hand, the author praises Chamberlain >for bringing "peace in our time", on the other - it tells us that the war >started just 1 year later. does the author realize that human lifetime is >longer than 1 year? :-) > >The above passage just illustrates how total morons can write books and even >be Prime Ministers of great countries. Today's NATO expansion is another >example of how morons rule the world. What do you mean? NATO is a protective shield against traditional Russian savagery! Do you want hoardes of Russian savages overrunning East Europe and the possibility of Western Europe being overrun as well? Look at what happened after WW II. Raping and looting, stealing watches, toilet seats etc.... No wonder Eastern Europe wants to be protected from those subhumans! The Baltic Nations and Ukraine want it as well.... Everywhere the Russians went, they are hated and feared by people.... Except for the Serbians of-course... They and the Russian volunteers there, liked to prove how tough they were, by raping 6 year old Bosnian, "Muslim foundamentalist terrorists".... You have to have superior force and superior technology to protect yourself and Civlization against those savages and their brutal, stupid hoardes!!! From alex@agate.net Thu Feb 13 17:26:59 EST 1997 Article: 71827 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:01:26 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: INFO REQUESTED FROM VULIS Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.usa,relcom.talk Message-ID: <855853030.9080@dejanews.com> Organization: SOVIET PIZDA INSPECTORATE References: <5b3dc5$99i@Roller.ISF.Kiev.UA> <32D77644.7741@hui.su> <5bcg7g$3db@panix.com> <5bf0n5$kfo@service-2.agate.net> <32E8389C.3EF5@concentric.net> <5cgke0$9s@service-2.agate.net> <32F43802.255F@concentric.net> <855509982.7901@dejanews.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Feb 13 16:57:10 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 129 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:71827 soc.culture.ukrainian:36696 soc.culture.usa:163870 In article , kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) wrote: > > alex@agate.net writes: > > >I HAVE NO INTENTION OF BEING NEAR THAT > >FOUL STINKING MAN HOLE COVER OF A "PIZDA"! > ^^^^^^^ > > To those who don't know Russian or do know it but pretend not to know the > four-letter words in it: the word "PIZDA" means "vagina". > > >THINK OF THE ROACHES, AND BEDBUGS IN THAT DIRTY THING!! > > Look, Alex, I respect your sexual preferences whatever they are. Maybe you > are a homosexual, or celibate, or a eunuch, or sexually underdeveloped, or a > 9-year-old kid who is too young to appreciate girls. Whatever. > > But why are you so categorical and vociferous in expressing your hate for > women's sexual organs? It gave birth to you, man! YOU KNOW PERFECTLY WELL, THE "PIZDA" IN QUESTION IS APRIL'S "PIZDA"... SO YOU HAVE VIOLATED HENRIETTA THOMAS' -THE WHITE QUEEN OF THE SOVOKS- STANDING ORDERS, IN FAVOR OF A YOUNGER, FATTER, (ALSO WESTERN) WOMAN... AND REPLIED TO ME... YOUR MOTIVES WERE NOT *PURE* HOWEVER... YOU DID SO, IN ORDER TO CLAIM, WHAT THE UKRAINIAN SOVOK *FIRST* HAD A WHIFF OF.... AND YOU STAKE YOUR RUSSIAN CLAIM TO APRIL'S "PIZDA", SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF YOUR BEING RUSSIAN, AND YOUR RUSSO-MONGOLIAN, GREED TO APPROPRIATE ANYTHING EVEN IF BY *UKRAINIANS* ("IS THE FORMER SOVIET-RUSSIAN TERRITORY, GOD DAMN !!!" PLUS YOUR DESIRE FOR "SLOPPY SECONDS"... > > Plus, most of us men do derive enormous pleasure from it, believe it or not. > There are no bugs there, and it does not stink. It smells very nice. It just > takes time to get used to it. HMMM..... YOU (AND THE OTHER SOVIET-SOVOKS EH?) LIKE AND *KNOW* APRIL'S "PIZDA", .... THERE IS EVEN THAT "ALEX" SOVOK FROM KYIV, UKRAINE, FEVERISHLY TRYING TO MODEM TO IT.... ("IS MAYBE GET THE GREEN CARD AND THE WESTERN "PIZDA" FOR ME TOO!!!!") YOU SOVOKS HAVE EVIDENTLY PICKED THE ROACHES AND BEDBUGS OUT... AMBITIOUS OF YOU SOVOKS INDEED !!! THOUGH YOU WERE PROBABLY SHAMED INTO IT, WITH THE WESTERNERS LAUGHING AT YOU... ..AND HAVE EVEN GOT USED TO THE SMELL AND HAVE COME TO LIKE "IT", IT JUST TOOK YOU, AS YOU PUT IT: "TIME TO GET USED TO IT" TO APRIL'S "PIZDA", RIGHT? YOU MADE IT SOUND AS THOUG IT WAS INDEED A TOUGH THING TO GET, "USED TO", EVEN FOR A SOVIET-SOVOK, EH? (STILL YOU REFER TO APRIL'S PIZDA AS "IT" I SEE... VERY *SOVIET* OF YOU DAN... BEFORE YOU AND THE OTHER SOVOKS GO CRAZY OVER A WHITE, WESTERN WOMAN, AND BEGIN YOUR TRADITIONAL SOVIET-SOVOK FOREPLAY RITUALS, (LIKE NAILING A BOARD TO YOUR ASS, SO YOU DON'T FALL IN) YOU REALLY SHOULD GIVE HER BIG "PIZDA" A "PET NAME"... LIKE... "NOVA RUSSIA II" OR "SOVIET POWER LUNCH"...WHATEVER YOUR SOVIET-SOVOK HEART AND MEMBER DESIRES... HMMM..... COME TO THINK OF IT... FANHNDRX@aol.com, THE SELF-DESCRIBED "RUSSIAN PATRIOT" (AND CHAUVANIST) POSTED IN ALT.SEX.PROSTITUTION, THE FOLLOWING: ====================================== Article 45 of 143 Subject: need f in nyc From: fanhndrx@aol.com (FANHNDRX) Date: 1997/01/25 Message-Id: <19970125182000.NAA05612@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sex.prostitution X-Admin: news@aol.com hi i am 25yr old white virgin. i need a girl between 18-25. i wanna have sex, touch, lick or whatever. e-mail me FANHNDRX@AOL.COM Home Power Search Post to Usenet Ask DN Wizard Help =========================================== GUESS FOR A SOVIET-SOVOK... GETTING A WHITE, WESTERN WOMAN IS A VERY *BIG* SOVIET ACHIEVMENT INDEED...... ..AS EVEN THE LOWEST "STREET WHORE" PROSTITUTES IN NEW YORK CITY, EXCERCISE ENOUGH SEXUAL DISCRETION, THAT EVEN THEY, WILL NOT SELL A "TIME SHARE" ON THEIR "PIZDA" TO A SOVIET-SOVOK... MAYBE THAT'S WHY ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING SO AGITATED ABOUT APRIL'S "PIZDA"??? > > Best wishes, > > Dan GOOD HUNTING!!! AND ENJOY "IT"... alex -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Sat Feb 15 21:43:33 EST 1997 Article: 71948 of soc.culture.russian Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:11:12 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: MONGOLS, MONGOLS AND MORE MONGOLS (was: Re: To alex from agate.net Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe Message-ID: <855975847.23282@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <5dtf9h$cbv@chaos.dac.neu.edu> <855946783.6514@dejanews.com> <5e2j9f$rjo$1@newz.oit.unc.edu> X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Feb 15 03:04:08 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 76 Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!crcnews.unl.edu!news.mid.net!news.sdsmt.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!andromeda.vec.net!news.gs.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36739 soc.culture.russian:71948 soc.culture.usa:164722 soc.culture.europe:71443 In article <5e2j9f$rjo$1@newz.oit.unc.edu>, urjlew@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) wrote: > > In article <855946783.6514@dejanews.com>, wrote: > | > |Russia should rejoin and go back to Mongolia.... very appropriate in > |view of Russia's history, culture and mores... > | > Alex. What do you have against present day Mongolia and Mongols? > Also there is no need to be so grossly insulting. It only reflects > badly on you. Actually, the Mongols are indeed fascinating.... One author (??) did a comparative study of the legal structures and laws of Kyivan Rus with the laws and practices of Moscovy, Russia.... Russia was very enriched by it's Mongol based culture, so to speak... You had capital punishment for the most trivial of crimes, in Moscovy Russia, as opposed to, interestingly, primarily monetary punishment for crimes and traspasses in Kyivan Rus (modern day Ukraine). When the Rus went to Russia, from Ukraine, they "Slavicized" many of the natives and brought with them their legal system to the native Finno-Ugrian tribesmen and sundry Asiatics living in what is now called present day Russia... Sure enough.... the phrase, "yop tvoi mat" (fuck your mother), such a very prominent phrase/feature of Russian cursing, also has its root in Russo-Mongolian culture. It seems that if the taxes/tribute were deemed insufficient, the wives of the villagers etc... were raped.... Quite a psychological scar on the victims and family....if widespread, which it was, a psychologically, "cultural scar" ... Hence the phrase and commonality of use... people would taunt each other with the shame, hurt and guilt of it.... abuse is *almost* a hereditary trait... Moscovy rose to prominence under the Mongols for their unswerving loyalty and zeal in service to the Khans... This loyalty resulted in their becoming the chief tax collection authority for the Mongols in their area. Moscow's viciousness and brutality in collecting taxes (stealing what they could of it) disgusted even the Mongols, even though they used and adopted the same methods, such as rape etc... just the excesses of those same methods, appalled even the Mongols... Russian historians politely skirt the story and speak of the "cleverness" of the princes of Moscow in "surviving" the Mongols... In point of fact, they became, "more Mongol then the Mongols", in aping the dress, manners, laws, customs of their rulers.. The "rationale" was the same for the Serbians and the Russian volunteers when they went and raped even the youngest Bosnian Moslem girls (down to 2 years old!). To destroy and permenantly scar a culture and people, to leave psychiatric causauties, an effect which would cripple for untold generations... Very effective... This "tactic" was devised by Radovan Karadez, a Serbian physician, whose specialty was psychiatric medicine (later stripped of his credentials in psychiatry by the World Psychiatric Congress over the objections and votes of the Russian psychiatrists). alex -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Sat Feb 15 21:57:42 EST 1997 Article: 71957 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.usa Subject: APRIL'S PIZDA (was: INFO REQUESTED FROM VULIS Date: 14 Feb 1997 04:50:08 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 73 Message-ID: <5e0qu1$b46@service-2.agate.net> References: <5b3dc5$99i@Roller.ISF.Kiev.UA> <32D77644.7741@hui.su> <5bcg7g$3db@panix.com> <5bf0n5$kfo@service-2.agate.net> <32E8389C.3EF5@concentric.net> <5cgke0$9s@service-2.agate.net> <32F43802.255F@concentric.net> <855509982.7901@dejanews.com> <32FF8A00.3FC9@concentric.net> <5do9hf$rd5@service-2.agate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:71957 soc.culture.ukrainian:36741 soc.culture.usa:164760 ATTENTION LYING, LAZY, THIEVING, STUPID, FUCKIN' SOVOKS !!! APRIL NAZARENKO'S PIZDA IS NOT THE PROPERTY OF RUSSIA AND YOU MONGOLS, JUST BECAUSE A UKRAINIAN SOVOK DISCOVERED AND FELL IN IT FIRST! THE RUSSO-MONGOLIAN BULLSHIT CLAIMS OF: (BEGINNING WITH THE PREAMBLE OF:) "AS 'THE SUCCESSOR STATE OF THE SOVIET UNION' ". NOR, IF YOU LIKE THAT STUPID RUSSIAN BULLSHIT OF THE "COMMONWEALTH OF THE INDEPENDENT STATES" WITH SOVOK RUSSIA BEING THE SELF PROCLAIMED: "FIRST AMONG EQUALS" ...(fuck does that mean anyway you dumb fuckin' sovoks??!) THAT FAT, SLOOPY WHITE, WESTERN PIZDA OF APRIL'S BELONGS TO MR. NAZARENKO (AND THE GREEN CARD! :)) AND THE "ALEX" SOVOK FROM KYIV, UKRAINE!!! YOU RUSSIAN SOVOKS WILL HAVE TO CONTENT YOURSELF WITH "SLOPPY SECONDS". HEY DAN KOROLEV ! SOUNDS LIKE YOU FINALLY GOT SOME PIZDA!! ABOUT TIME!!! HEY SOVOKS !!! THE DAN KOROLEV SOVOK FINALLY GOT LAID!*!*!*!*! YOU, EVIDENTLY HAD, "TO GET USED TO THE SMELL OF IT", AS YOU PUT IT.... (A NICE RUSSIAN GIRL? BIG USED UP PIZDA AND MOUTH, AFTER BEING A PROSTITUTE FOR EVERY WESTERN DICK SHE COULD FIT IN OR SUCK???) BUT YOU PERSEVERED!!! YOU GOT LAID AT LAST!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! HAVE A KLEENIX (ONE SHEET FOR YOUR LITTLE RUSSO-MONGOLIAN PECKER) NOW YOU CAN TELL THE OTHER SOVOK-RUSSO-MONGOLIAN, CHAUVANIST AND 25 YEAR OLD VIRGIN: FANHNDRX@aol.com ALL ABOUT IT!!!! HENRIETTA THOMAS TOO!!! hmmm..... seems that once your got your little Russo-mongol Asiatic cock wet...it seems your mood has improved and you are not so blatantly chauvanistic (it's toned down a slight amount, I've noticed) tell the other sovok soviets.... From alex@agate.net Tue Feb 18 18:27:46 EST 1997 Article: 72115 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:01:13 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa Message-ID: <856215898.100@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 17 21:44:58 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 201 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:72115 soc.culture.ukrainian:36797 soc.culture.europe:72131 soc.culture.usa:165912 In article , kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) wrote: > > alex@agate.net (alex) writes: > > >In article , kda@netcom.com says... > >> > >>misha@Glue.umd.edu (Michael Stepanov) writes: > >> > >>>Timothy Watson (tmwatson@umich.edu) wrote: > >>>: [some pro-Western stuff] > >> > >>>I am amused to see how differently Munich Agreement and > >>>Non-Agression pact are treated. Here is a quote from > >>>"Warfare in XX century" encyclopedia: > >> > >>>"Munich Agreement. The Agreement between Hitler, Mussolini, > >>>Chamberlain and Daladier was signed on Sept.30 1938. Under > >>>its terms the Germanic (?) parts, and in the event several other > >>>parts, of Czechoslovakia were ceded to Germany. > >>>This averted war, which has been imminent, until Sept.1939 > >>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >>Brilliant thinking on the part of the allies and the author of this book. He > >>claims (falsely, BTW) that the war was imminent in sept 1938 and the Munich > >>sellout delayed it for one year. Let's assume that this was correct. So, > >>the Allies sacrificed Czechoslovakia to give Hitler an extra year to prepare > >>for war. Is that such a smart military move? I mean, you can destroy Hitler > >>in 1938 but you "brilliantly" decide to appease him, so he spends the extra > >>year preparing for war and then defeats you. Brilliant! > >> > >>>Chambarlain announced it as bringing "peace in our time". > >>>[end of quote] > >> > >>> What a face-saver! Notorious Soviet propaganda > >>> could not make it better. > >> > >>Even notorious Soviet propaganda was smart enough to realise that the above > >>statement is a self-mockery. On the one hand, the author praises Chamberlain > >>for bringing "peace in our time", on the other - it tells us that the war > >>started just 1 year later. does the author realize that human lifetime is > >>longer than 1 year? :-) > >> > >>The above passage just illustrates how total morons can write books and even > >>be Prime Ministers of great countries. Today's NATO expansion is another > >>example of how morons rule the world. > > >What do you mean? > >NATO is a protective shield against traditional Russian savagery! > > >Do you want hoardes of Russian savages overrunning East Europe > >and the possibility of Western Europe being overrun as well? > > I am sorry that I will not get involved in a detailed discussion of why > the NATO expansion is wrong for USA. Let me point out two obvious ones: YOU WANNA GET SERIOUS DAN? > > 1. the 100 billion dollars that the US taxpayers will have to pay for it. THERE HAS BEEN *FAR* MORE THEN THAT SPENT *ALREADY* FROM *ALL* SOURCES, SUCH AS: THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND, WEST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, US TAX PAYERS DIRECTLY, UNDERWRITING AND INSURANCE, GOVERNMENTAL GUARANTIES, AND LOANS TO CORPORATE INVESTMENT, GRANTS, CHARITIES ETC... WHAT WAS THE EFFECT? CHEECHNA ?! TAKING THE SIDE OF THE SERBIANS AND ALLOWING THE SENDING OF RUSSIAN VOLUNTEERS TO HELP THE SERBIANS RAPE 2 YEAR OLD, "MOSLEM FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORISTS" AND THE "DANGER" OF A "FUNDAMENTALIST BOSNIAN TERROIST STATE"??? WHAT *GUARANTEES* ARE THERE NOW THAT THE STUPID BASTARDS *WONT* DO *MORE* STUPID SHIT UNLESS, YOU POINT A CANNON IN THEIR STUPID FACE AND SAY.... "LOOK... I DON'T WANT TROUBLE... BUT IF YOU FUCK WITH US, YOU STUPID, SAVAGE MONGOL BASTARD... YOU *WILL* INDEED LOSE!" IT WOULD SEEM TO BE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE, *SAFER* AND FAR MORE *SURE* BET... THEN WOULD FOLLOWING GENERAL LEBED'S AND COMMUNIST PARTY LEADER ZYGYANOV'S URGING FOR THE WEST TO "INVEST" MORE IN RUSSIA" AND *NOT* EXPAND NATO.... (HEY DAN! YOU SAY THE SAME STUFF!! :))) > > 2. the electoral defeat of the current pro-Western regime in Russia and the > establishment of a fascist anti-western dictatorship there, with the > resulting new arms race, and coalition between Russia, China, Iran and > other countries that uS surely doesn't want to have hostilities with. > BULLSHIT!!! THE RUSSIAN ARGUMENT OF, "IF YOU DON'T GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, WE WILL BE THE BIGGEST @SSHOLES IN THE WORLD AGAIN!" THAT ARGUMENT IS RATHER "WEAK", TO BE POLITE ABOUT IT.... (DAN, DO YOU *ALWAYS* HAVE TO TAKE THE "RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINE"??? LIGHTEN UP AND THINK ABOUT THAT ONE FOR A COLD MINUTE OR TWO...) > As final remark, let me point out that we are in the middle of a > discussion of Russia's role in saving Europe from the most barbaric > country in its history: Germany, a country which is the leader of NATO. > Draw your own conclusions. GERMANY IS *NOT* THE LEADER OF NATO.... AND THE BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS OF THE RUSSIANS SAYING THAT, "WE ARE SCARED OF HITLER'S SECOND COMING, SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE JERK-OFFS, SO HOW CAN YOU BLAME US FOR THAT? NOW GIVE US WHAT WE WANT OR WE WILL AGAIN BE VERY BIG SHITHEADS AGAIN..." STILL MORE OBVIOUS SOVOK-SOVIET BULLSHIT.... > > If a Nazi Germany was given a friendly hand by the USA after we defeated > it and germany became a civilized country - why not support Russian > democracy as well, so that Russia would also become a civilized one? BECAUSE DAN, GERMANY WAS *OCCUPIED* AFTER WW II.... AS WAS JAPAN... (HINT!) THE ABOVE COUNTRIES ALSO UNDERWENT "DE-NAZIFICATION" AND "DE-IMPERIALISATION" (??? FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM...) NOW IF YOU WERE TO PUT RUSSIA, UNDER.... AHEM.... WESTERN CIVILIZED *MANAGEMENT*.... AND CIVILIZE THE BASTARDS.... THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT MATTER... NOW WOULDN'T IT? WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA DAN.... EH? WHAT IS IT? AFRAID THAT UNDER SUCH A "MANAGEMENT SCHEME", THAT COMMUNIST PARTY MEMEBERS WOULD LOSE POWER AND CONTROL AND ADDITIONALY, WOULD BE JAILED OR EXECUTED LIKE WAR CRIMINALS IN POST NAZI GERMANY OR POST WW II JAPAN? HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS... OR WORSE, GET A REAL JOB? WOULD THE "INSULT TO RUSSIAN CHAUVANISM" BE SUCH A GREAT LOSS? WOULD RUSSIAN WOMEN SUDDENLY TURN INTO WHORES AND PROSTITUTES AND LOSE THEIR CURRENT VIRTUE AND CHASTITY? :) > > If the Nazis could turn democratic and civilized, so can the Russians, who > have one hundred times shorter path to travel. DISAGREE... HITLER WAS AN *ABBERATION* IN A *CIVILIZED* [UNDER THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES AND OTHER WEIRD STUFF.... MANY HISTORIANS HAVE CALLED WW II, THE SECOND ACT AND, IN REALITY, A CONTINUATION OF WW I] *WESTERN* COUNTRY.... THE RUSSIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ASSHOLES.... HISTORICALY.... WHAT ELSE IS NEW? (AND THE ISOLATION FROM THE WEST, LO THESE 70 YEARS, UNDER RUSSIAN COMMUNISM, AND THE HUNDREDS UNDER THE RUSSIAN TSARS -AND IT'S SELECTIVE, CONTROL OF "EVIL WESTERN INFLUENCES- DID NOT IMPROVE THEM... I DARE SAY...) AND THEY TURNED EVERYONE UNDER THEIR DIRTY GREASY RUSSIAN BEAR PAWS, INTO SCUMBAGS AS WELL.... *YOU* KNOW IT ... AND *I* KNOW IT... THE DEGREE TO WHICH THEY SCREWED THINGS UP WAS IN *DIRECT* PROPORTION TO THEIR CONTROL AND RUSSIFICATION.... EASTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WERE *LESS* SCREWED UP,BY THE RUSSIANS, THEN THE MORE *RUSSIFIED* *SUBJUCATED* NATIONALITIES OF THE SO CALLED "SOVIET UNION"... FUNNY HOW THINGS SEEMED TO WORK OUT THAT WAY, ISN'T IT DAN? DAN... DON'T TRY TO BE SO FUCKING "CLEVER", LIKE A FUCKIN' STUPID SOVOK... {IT REALLY, DOES NOT SUIT YOU AT BASE.} THIS IS *HORSESHIT* ON YOUR PART... AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT! OR DO YOU NOT? REGARDS, alex -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Tue Feb 18 18:29:03 EST 1997 Article: 72125 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:01:27 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: Baltic NATO membership - are there alternatives? Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukraine,ukr.politics,relcom.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa Message-ID: <856226779.7874@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <5e7ckf$88u$1@news.datakom.su.se> <5e8ujp$123$1@kirin.wwa.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 18 00:46:19 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 215 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.nordic:67957 soc.culture.russian:72125 soc.culture.europe:72175 soc.culture.usa:165996 In article <5e8ujp$123$1@kirin.wwa.com>, hkt@wwa.com (Henrietta Thomas) wrote: > > Jan.Bohme@imun.su.se (Jan Böhme) wrote: > > >holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote: > > [snip]..... > > >>My reading of Russian politics is that many of the people currently in > >>charge there are fully aware of the above geopolitical implications, but > >>are resigned to the fact that Russia in its present situation is unable > >>to do anything concrete to prevent NATO from expanding, no matter how > >>threatening they consider the geographical consequences of such expansion > >>to be. Unfortunately, the present Russian leadership is extraordinary > >>vulnerable, and the period of transition to a new leader and, more > >>importantly, a new type of Russian leadership, seems to have begun. On > >>the level of average 'gut feelings', many Russians, justifiably or not, > >>still associate NATO with the Cold War and, on a different level, with > >>vague ideas of German 'revanchism'. As absurd as such ideas might seem > >>to us, they are very real to many Russians, and they can easily be > >>channeled into a political force which would pave the way for a more > >>assertive type of Russian nationalist politics. At best this could > >>initiate the beginning of a new division of Europe, I do not even want > >>to speculate about worse scenarios. > > Russian fears are justified. Russia was invaded twice this century by > Germany through Ukraine and the Baltic states. SO MAKE UKRAINE AND THE BALTIC _*_ NATIONS_*_ VERY STRONG!!! LIKE THAT ONE BETTER, YOU OLD COMMUNIST? :> >And the survivors of the > second war are still alive. Something must be done to prevent anything > like that from occurring again. MAKE SURE THAT STALIN AND HITLER DON'T GET SO GREEDY, IF YOU RECALL... THEY WERE GOOD FRIENDS FOR AWHILE AND HELPED ATTACK POLAND.... > It is not enough to say that the West > controls Germany through NATO. Who prevents NATO from coming into Russia > itself? The good will of the West? OF-COURSE! NOTE THAT RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK UP OF THE RUSSIAN "SOVIET UNION", THE WEST NOT ONLY DID NOT ATTACK, BUT CAME WITH $$$, MEDICINE, FOOD, CANDY, CONDOMS AND MISSIONARIES... IS THAT NOT ENOUGH GOOD WILL FOR YOU, YOU OLD SOCIALIST??? SO IF YOU, IN YOUR SENILE MIND, ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE EVIL NAZI, GERMANS AGAIN... OR THE MONGOLS FROM RUSSIA GOING RAPE AND LOOT, EASTERN EUROPE *AND* THREATEN THE WEST AND DOING LIKE WHAT THEY DID TO THE CHECHENS VERY RECENTLY, (LET'S NOT EVEN MENTION, THE VIOLATINA OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION AND CIVILIZED BEHAVIOR IN USING POISON GAS, ILLEGAL TYPES OF BULLETS, ETC..) WHY NOT MAKE UKRAINE AND THE BALTIC NATIONS, VERY STRONG BUFFER STATES? :) AFTER ALL... THEY HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF NAZI-GERMANS AND RUSSO-MONGOL TSARISTS AND COMMUNISTS.... RIGHT THOMAS? IN POINT OF FACT... EVEN YOUR SOCIALIST LEADER AND PRESIDENT, BILL CLINTON, HAS STARTED TO WAKE UP AND NOW, *UKRAINE* RECEIVES MORE US AID, THEN DOES YOUR CHECHEN KILLING RUSSIANS... AS YOU KNOW... CLINTON IS A VERY STUPID ONE TO CONVINCE OF ANYTHING... BUT.... HE HAS (THROUGH HIS SPOKESMEN) AKNOWLEDGED THAT, TOO MUCH EMPHASIS HAS BEEN PLACED ON BELIEVING THAT THE RUSSO-MONGOLIANS WOULD BE "NICE"... :) > > >We should do our utmost, in words and deeds, to assure Russia the > >defensive character of the NATO expansion. However, we should also > >point out to the Russians, that their demands to control whether > >independent countries after democratic decisions are allowed to join a > >military alliance or not are entirely of the cold war mindset, and > >unacceptable from a principal standpoint in a new, democratic Europe. > > If there is no enemy, there need be no defense. Who defends Cuba from > the United States? Who defends Central and South America from the mighty > nation to the North? AND WHO WILL DEFEND THE CHECHENS AND EAST EUROPE FROM THE SAVAGES!!! > > >An alternative that might be tried is a mutual non-aggression pact > >between each of the Baltic countries and Russia, _guaranteed by NATO > >for all cases of military aggression._. If, but only if, this is > >acceptable for the Batic peoples, who are entiteled to decide what > >alliances they want to join entirely on their own, as do all other > >sovereign nations, this might be a viable possibility. > > Prior to World War II, the Baltic States had non-aggression pacts with > both Germany and USSR. They weren't worth the paper they were written > on. Plus, I repeat my question above: Who prevents NATO from marching > into Russia to enforce the non-aggression pacts? AND I REPEAT TO YOU, THOMAS... "...$$$, CANDY AND CONDOMS AND MISSIONARIES," TO THE SAVAGES... THEY AT LEAST TOOK THE $$$ AND THE CANDY... > > [snip].... > > >What I mean to say is that Eugene's question "What can the West do to > >win Russia's confidence" is the small and relatively unimportant > >question. The big question is: "What can Russia do to get confidence > >in the West as an ordered, democratic state of justice with no > >aggressive aspirations" > > Lay down and die, most likely. That is all "the West" appears willing > to accept. But Russia refuses to lay down and die. ?????????????????????????? SIGH... IF ONLY YOU WOULD MAKE SOME SORT OF SENSE... > > >As long as _this_ question is not resolved, Russia will not be able to > >take its proper place among the European nations, NATO enlargement or > >no NATO enlargement. > > And what, may I ask, is Russia's "proper place"? > IN THE TOILET.... SQUATING QUIETLY... WITH IT'S (AND YOUR) LOUD STUPID MOUTH SHUT.... > [snip].... > > >>Please do not accuse me of arguing the Russian line here. I look at the > >>map and keep seeing a potential for instability, confrontation, and > >>division that I am sure nobody wants. Severely overstrained St. Petersburg > >>harbor serves the import and export needs of both the St. Petersburg > >>metropolitan area with its more than six million inhabitants and the vast > >>expanses of north-western Russia beyond. Any responsible politician in > >>Russia would be concerned about any development which might change the > >>security status of the vital maritime corridor connecting it to the World > >>Ocean. > > >I'm not sure that this is as relevant as you may think. Entry and exit > >from the Baltic Sea is already guarded by NATO, much more that exit > >and entry into the Gulf of Finland could ever be by Finland and > >Estonia joining NATO. To me, this is a moot pseudo-argument, and the > >mere fact that it is raised from Russia makes it likely that other, > >less innocuous motives are partly behind the Russian opposition > >against NATO membership for the Baltic republics. > > Have you already forgotten the siege of Leningrad? There was no NATO > then. But the Soviet Union was cut off, nevertheless, by Finland. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? THOMAS... ARE YOU DRUNK???? PERHAPS WE SHOULD HELP THE RUSSIANS INVADE FINLAND, IN ORDER TO PROTECT RUSSIA FROM THE IMPERIALIST FINNS??? BECAUSE, THEY WOULD, I AM SURE, LIKE THAT ???!! > > >It all depends on your mindset. But _if_ you think that there is a > >serious risk for an authoritarian, nationalist, aggressive Russia > >_regardless_ of Western policy towards it, then this contingency also > >has to be planned for. > > Have you ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy? If you treat Russia > as if she will become "an authoritarian, nationalist, aggressive Russia > _regardless_ of Western policy," you are likely to get an authoritarian, > nationalist, aggressive Russia. YOU ARE GOING TO GET THAT ANYWAY...ASK THE CHEECHENS AND OTHERS... SEEMS THAT THE BEST THING IS TO BE ABLE TO *DEFEND* ONESELVES REGARDLESS.... AT LEAST THE MONEY SPENT ON BULLETS IS A MUCH MORE CONCRETE AND SAFER APPROACH, IN TERMS OF A *DETERRENT*, THEN INVESTING IN A CRAZED, DEMENTED, UNPREDICTABLE RUSSIA... DON'T YOU AGREE? WITH ONE APPROACH... YOU *KNOW* WHAT YOU GET FOR YOUR *MONEY*... > > >And security arranged for all ex-soviet bloc states that wish it, at a > >time when it can still be guaranteed. > > Such guarantees as you require are not available. YOU WOULD RATHER TRUST THE RUSSO-MONGOLIANS INSTEAD OF THE WEST ? :))) > > Henrietta Thomas > Chicago, Illinois > hkt@wwa.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Tue Feb 18 18:31:00 EST 1997 Article: 72135 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!crcnews.unl.edu!news.mid.net!news.inetnebr.com!news.enteract.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:51:04 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: National identity (was: Re: Drunken fuckin' stupid Sovoks! (was: Re: So much for "ukrainian" scater Oksana Bauil Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics Message-ID: <856230186.10630@dejanews.com> Organization: JUST ME References: <5dtf9h$cbv@chaos.dac.neu.edu> <5dtms7$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <855946783.6514@dejanews.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 18 01:43:06 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 37 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36809 soc.culture.russian:72135 In article , "L.Gordeev" wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 alex@agate.net wrote: > > > Russia should rejoin and go back to Mongolia.... > > Hey alex@agate, Mongolian brides are strong and not fat! Just forget > April, rejoin Russia and go back to Mongolia to cure your sexuality. THEN WHY ARE YOU IN GERMANY, CHASING BIG, FAT, WHITE, WESTERN WOMEN, IF MONGOLIAN "PIZDA" IS, AS YOU CLAIM, BETTER THEN APRIL'S BIG FAT "PIZDA" ? ...BESIDES... I THINK I AM IN LOVE..... BTW, IS THAT THE BEST RUSSO-MONGOLIAN REPLY YOU CAN MAKE USING YOUR SOVOK LOGIC IN REGARDS TO THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD? MUST BE BE VERY DISAPPOINTING TO YOU.... BEING IN GERMANY, NOT EVEN ANY RUSSO-MONGOLIAN PIZDA... GIVE APRIL A CALL... WANT HER NUMBER? SHE LIKES STUPID SOVOKS, STUKACHI AND ANTI-SEMITES.... > > L.G -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Wed Feb 19 10:55:14 EST 1997 Article: 72238 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 00:31:02 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa Message-ID: <856332580.4684@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <856215898.100@dejanews.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Feb 19 06:09:47 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 421 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:72238 soc.culture.ukrainian:36831 soc.culture.europe:72606 soc.culture.usa:166594 In article , kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) wrote: =========now your reply================ Subject: Re: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII From: kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) Date: 1997/02/18 Message-Id: Sender: kda@netcom17.netcom.com References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <856215898.100@dejanews.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.cultu re.europe,soc.culture.usa alex@agate.net writes: >In article , > kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) wrote: >> >> alex@agate.net (alex) writes: >> >> >In article , kda@netcom.com says... >> >> >> >>misha@Glue.umd.edu (Michael Stepanov) writes: >> >> >> >>>Timothy Watson (tmwatson@umich.edu) wrote: >> >>>: [some pro-Western stuff] >> >> >> >>>I am amused to see how differently Munich Agreement and >> >>>Non-Agression pact are treated. Here is a quote from >> >>>"Warfare in XX century" encyclopedia: >> >> >> >>>"Munich Agreement. The Agreement between Hitler, Mussolini, >> >>>Chamberlain and Daladier was signed on Sept.30 1938. Under >> >>>its terms the Germanic (?) parts, and in the event several other >> >>>parts, of Czechoslovakia were ceded to Germany. >> >>>This averted war, which has been imminent, until Sept.1939 >> >>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> >>Brilliant thinking on the part of the allies and the author of this book. He >> >>claims (falsely, BTW) that the war was imminent in sept 1938 and the Munich >> >>sellout delayed it for one year. Let's assume that this was correct. So, >> >>the Allies sacrificed Czechoslovakia to give Hitler an extra year to prepare >> >>for war. Is that such a smart military move? I mean, you can destroy Hitler >> >>in 1938 but you "brilliantly" decide to appease him, so he spends the extra >> >>year preparing for war and then defeats you. Brilliant! >> >> >> >>>Chambarlain announced it as bringing "peace in our time". >> >>>[end of quote] >> >> >> >>> What a face-saver! Notorious Soviet propaganda >> >>> could not make it better. >> >> >> >>Even notorious Soviet propaganda was smart enough to realise that the above >> >>statement is a self-mockery. On the one hand, the author praises Chamberlain >> >>for bringing "peace in our time", on the other - it tells us that the war >> >>started just 1 year later. does the author realize that human lifetime is >> >>longer than 1 year? :-) >> >> >> >>The above passage just illustrates how total morons can write books and even >> >>be Prime Ministers of great countries. Today's NATO expansion is another >> >>example of how morons rule the world. >> >> >What do you mean? >> >NATO is a protective shield against traditional Russian savagery! >> >> >Do you want hoardes of Russian savages overrunning East Europe >> >and the possibility of Western Europe being overrun as well? >> >> I am sorry that I will not get involved in a detailed discussion of why >> the NATO expansion is wrong for USA. Let me point out two obvious ones: >YOU WANNA GET SERIOUS DAN? Not really. I engage in serious discussions about Russian economy, politics, NATO etc only with professional experts on these subjects. THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS, LIKE I DO :) I AM ALWAYS AMAZED WHEN I HEAR EX-SOVIETS SPEAK ABOUT THE TOPIC... AS FOR "EXPERTS" ON NATO.... RATHER THEN THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT, PERHAPS PEOPLE LIKE ZBIGNEW BRESZHINSKI, AND HENRY KISSINGER, MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE CREDIBILITY THEN A BUNCH OF SOVIETS... AT LEAST FOR THE WEST ANYWAY.... DON'T YOU THINK SO? >> 1. the 100 billion dollars that the US taxpayers will have to pay for it. >THERE HAS BEEN *FAR* MORE THEN THAT SPENT *ALREADY* FROM *ALL* SOURCES, >SUCH AS: THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND, WEST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, US TAX >PAYERS DIRECTLY, UNDERWRITING AND INSURANCE, GOVERNMENTAL GUARANTIES, AND >LOANS TO CORPORATE INVESTMENT, GRANTS, CHARITIES ETC... I assure you that you are mistaken in your total number. But why don't you print an itemized list of the above "more than 100 billion dollars" that you claim has already been spent with sources of where you got these numbers - and I will gladly explain to you the errors. WHY DON'T *YOU* LOOK IT UP IN _US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT_ AND GLADLY EXPLAIN TO THEM WHY THEY ARE INCORRECT AS PER YOUR RUSSIAN SOVIET "EXPERTISE"? Moreover, even if it had been 100 billion that was spent on converting Russia into a US ally and a democracy - isn't it money better spent that the money spent on expanding NATO to make Russia into our enemy again? YOU CAN NEVER *BRIBE* RUSSIA INTO BEING "GOOD" AND BECOMING A US ALLY... IT IS FAR BETTER TO *WATCH* FOR OUR OWN DEFENCE AND NOT *RELY* ON AN UNSTABLE, UNPREDICTABLE RUSSIA... *2* REVOLUTIONS IN A FEW YEARS??? NOT TO STABLE, IS IT?? 21% OF THE RUSSIAN POPULATION VOTED FOR ZHIRONOVSKY, IN A PREVIOUS ELECTION... HE'S THE GUY WHO IS A NOTORIOUS ANTI-SEMITE, WANTS ALASAKA "BACK" TO RUSSIA... ETC... IN THE LAST ELECTION, ZYGANOV, THE COMMUNIST PARTY HEAD, RECEIVED A LARGE PER CENTAGE OF THE VOTE... ALMOST WON... AND WOULD HAVE WON, IF THE "ELECTIONS" WERE HONEST, IF THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT *CONTROL* THE MEDIA ETC... >WHAT WAS THE EFFECT? CHEECHNA ?! (next section was omitted by Russian ex-Soviet Dan Korolev, in his reply, begin omited section): TAKING THE SIDE OF THE SERBIANS AND ALLOWING THE SENDING OF RUSSIAN VOLUNTEERS TO HELP THE SERBIANS RAPE 2 YEAR OLD, "MOSLEM FUNDAMENTALIST TERRORISTS" AND THE "DANGER" OF A "FUNDAMENTALIST BOSNIAN TERROIST STATE"??? WHAT *GUARANTEES* ARE THERE NOW THAT THE STUPID BASTARDS *WONT* DO *MORE* STUPID SHIT UNLESS, YOU POINT A CANNON IN THEIR STUPID FACE AND SAY.... "LOOK... I DON'T WANT TROUBLE... BUT IF YOU FUCK WITH US, YOU STUPID, SAVAGE MONGOL BASTARD... YOU *WILL* INDEED LOSE!" (end omited section) First of all, Chachnya is now at peace and is about to become an independent country. On the other hand, I know several native american tribes that are still fighting fo rindependence... :-) I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THE US AIR FORCE AND ARMY, ATTACKING ANY NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES...NOR CUTTING OFF FEDERAL BENEFITS AND CERTAINLY.... UNLIKE WHAT THE RUSSIANS DID IN CHEECHNA, MAKING BOMBING RUNS FROM HIGH ALTITUDES ON CITIES, RAPING, LOOTING, VIOLATING THE GENEVA CONVENTION IN USING *BANNED* WEAPONS ETC... Second, from the US foreign policy perspective, the war in Chechnya was not against any vital US interests. HOW ABOUT MORAL INTERESTS? OR DID YOU APPROVE OF WHAT HITLER DID BY USING THE SAME TYPE OF ARGUMENTS? OR WHAT THE RUSSIAN VOLUNTEERS AND SERBIANS DID IN BOSNIA? AS A MATTER OF FACT, I RECALL YOU POSTING LOUDLY AGAINST THE CHEECHENS.... REMEMBER?? >IT WOULD SEEM TO BE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE, *SAFER* >AND FAR MORE *SURE* BET... THEN WOULD FOLLOWING >GENERAL LEBED'S AND COMMUNIST PARTY LEADER ZYGYANOV'S >URGING FOR THE WEST TO "INVEST" MORE IN RUSSIA" AND *NOT* >EXPAND NATO.... >(HEY DAN! YOU SAY THE SAME STUFF!! :))) Yes, I do. So does Steve Cohen, Boris Yeltsin, Michael Mandelbaum, most other US exoperts, Yavlinsky, Gaidar, and everybody else. So, what's your point? "MOST US EXPERTS" ??? "..AND EVERYBODY ELSE"??? ARE YOU HIGH? OR JUST STUPID? STEVE COHEN, THE POLITICAL "SCIENTIST" IS A LEFTIST, A RUSSOPHILE AND AN ASS! (I RECALL WITH PLEASURE, WHEN ON HIS "TALK SHOW CIRCUIT", HE OPENED HIS IGNORANT MOUTH EXPANSIVELY AND PONTIFICATED ON SHIT HE KNEW *NOTHING OF* -LIKE YOU- , AND THERE WAS AN *ECONOMIST* THERE... *ONE SENTENCE* AND STEVE COHEN, THE "EXPERT" AND EX SELF PROCLAIMED "SOVIETALOGIST", SHUT-UP... AS FOR YOUR OTHER "EXPERTS"? "Boris Yeltsin, Michael Mandelbaum, most other US exoperts, Yavlinsky, Gaidar, and everybody else." :)))) LIKE I REALLY WANNA HEAR A BUNCH OF RUSSIANS??? HOW ABOUT *REAL* US "EXPERTS", DAN? WHY ARE HENRY KISSINGER AND ZBIGNEW BREZINSKI DISQUALIFIED BY *YOUR* RUSSIAN CRITERIA? IS IT BECAUSE THEY ARE PRO-WESTERN AND AMERICAN AND HAVE HELD HIGH US GOVERNMENT POSITIONS?? HAVE THE RUSSIANS AND FOOLS YOU NAMED, BE SAID TO HAVE THE SAME "US EXPERTISE" ?? :) >> 2. the electoral defeat of the current pro-Western regime in Russia and the >> establishment of a fascist anti-western dictatorship there, with the >> resulting new arms race, and coalition between Russia, China, Iran and >> other countries that uS surely doesn't want to have hostilities with. >> >BULLSHIT!!! >THE RUSSIAN ARGUMENT OF, "IF YOU DON'T GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, >WE WILL BE THE BIGGEST @SSHOLES IN THE WORLD AGAIN!" >THAT ARGUMENT IS RATHER "WEAK", TO BE POLITE ABOUT IT.... >(DAN, DO YOU *ALWAYS* HAVE TO TAKE THE "RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LINE"??? >LIGHTEN UP AND THINK ABOUT THAT ONE FOR A COLD MINUTE OR TWO...) I just did. I just imagined how if NATO expanded Yeltsin would be replaced by some lunatic.... Scary! NOT AS "SCARY!" AS A WEAK, UNPREPARED WEST .... RIGHT? >> As final remark, let me point out that we are in the middle of a >> discussion of Russia's role in saving Europe from the most barbaric >> country in its history: Germany, a country which is the leader of NATO. >> Draw your own conclusions. >GERMANY IS *NOT* THE LEADER OF NATO.... (next section was omitted by Russian-ex-Soviet Dan Korolev, in his reply, begin omited section) AND THE BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS OF THE RUSSIANS SAYING THAT, "WE ARE SCARED OF HITLER'S SECOND COMING, SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE JERK-OFFS, SO HOW CAN YOU BLAME US FOR THAT? NOW GIVE US WHAT WE WANT OR WE WILL AGAIN BE VERY BIG SHITHEADS AGAIN..." STILL MORE OBVIOUS SOVOK-SOVIET BULLSHIT.... (end omited section) It certainly is the leader among European members of NATO. WRONG AGAIN! TRY THE US... AND IF YOU WANT, LOOK AT GREAT BRITAIN AND FRANCE SOONER... WHO SENDS TROOPS ABROAD IN NATO OPERATIONS??? *NEVER* THE GERMANS...IN FACT, THE US HAS ATTEMPTED TO PRESSURE THE GERMANS AND JAPANESE INTO EXPANDING THEIR ROLES... UNFORTUNATELY.. THEY POINT TO THEIR AGREEMENTS AND CONSTITUTIONS ETC... AND "RELUCTANTLY" FOCUS ON THEIR NATIONAL ECONOMIES... NOT LIKE THE RUSSIANS, EH? AS AS MATTER OF FACT... THE RUSSIANS *SPENT* MORE ON THEIR WAR AGAINST THE CHEECHENS THEN THEY DID ON THIER *ENTIRE* HEALTH MINISTRY BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN "FEDERATION" !! GOOD THING THEY WERE GETTING A LOT OF FOREIGN AID MONEY FROM THE WEST, EH DAN? >> If a Nazi Germany was given a friendly hand by the USA after we defeated >> it and germany became a civilized country - why not support Russian >> democracy as well, so that Russia would also become a civilized one? >> If the Nazis could turn democratic and civilized, so can the Russians, who >> have one hundred times shorter path to travel. >DISAGREE... >HITLER WAS AN *ABBERATION* IN A *CIVILIZED* >[UNDER THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES AND OTHER WEIRD >STUFF.... MANY HISTORIANS HAVE CALLED WW II, THE >SECOND ACT AND, IN REALITY, A >CONTINUATION OF WW I] >*WESTERN* COUNTRY.... THE RUSSIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN >ASSHOLES.... HISTORICALY.... WHAT ELSE IS NEW? (next section was omitted by Russian-ex-Soviet Dan Korolev, in his reply, begin omited section) (AND THE ISOLATION FROM THE WEST, LO THESE 70 YEARS, UNDER RUSSIAN COMMUNISM, AND THE HUNDREDS UNDER THE RUSSIAN TSARS -AND IT'S SELECTIVE, CONTROL OF "EVIL WESTERN INFLUENCES- DID NOT IMPROVE THEM... I DARE SAY...) AND THEY TURNED EVERYONE UNDER THEIR DIRTY GREASY RUSSIAN BEAR PAWS, INTO SCUMBAGS AS WELL.... *YOU* KNOW IT ... AND *I* KNOW IT... THE DEGREE TO WHICH THEY SCREWED THINGS UP WAS IN *DIRECT* PROPORTION TO THEIR CONTROL AND RUSSIFICATION.... EASTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, WERE *LESS* SCREWED UP,BY THE RUSSIANS, THEN THE MORE *RUSSIFIED* *SUBJUCATED* NATIONALITIES OF THE SO CALLED "SOVIET UNION"... FUNNY HOW THINGS SEEMED TO WORK OUT THAT WAY, ISN'T IT DAN? DAN... DON'T TRY TO BE SO FUCKING "CLEVER", LIKE A FUCKIN' STUPID SOVOK... {IT REALLY, DOES NOT SUIT YOU AT BASE.} THIS IS *HORSESHIT* ON YOUR PART... AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT! OR DO YOU NOT? REGARDS, alex Alex, let's give up this "Western" and "Aryan" crap. "ARYAN" ?!?!?! WHY DO *YOU* USE THIS WORD DAN? Speaking of history, Russia has historically been on the side of the majority of Europe in almost every war, for better or worse. The only exception was the Crimean war, when the English and French took the Muslem Turkish side and defeated Russia in the Crimean war. On the other hand, Germany has traditionally been the most barbaric european country, fighting France and occupying Paris several times in the 19th century. In the 20th century, Germany and Austria fought WWI against France, Russia, England and later USA. YOU ARE INACCURATE HERE... BUT NO MATTER, *NONE* OF THIS IS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION, IT IS MERELY A CHILDISH, SCHOOLBOY ATTEMPT TO CREATE A "STRAWMAN ARGUMENT" AND DIVERT FOCUS... VERY OBVIOUS... But that's all peanuts. In 1932 the German public, seduced by the Nazi promises to exterminate Jews and to conquer Europe and destroy the European culture and Christianity, gave the Nazis a mandate to govern. In 1936, seeing Nazis efforts in fighting Jews and Christian culture, the German public almost unanimously re-elected the Nazis. After that, the worst crime in the history of Mankind occured, when millions of Germans devoted their whole existence to killing Jews and Gypsies and Slavs, to cChristianity and culture, to installling THE RUSSIANS MURDERED MORE PEOPLE, AND COMMITED MORE CRIMES OF GENOCIDE AND ATTEMPTED GENOCIDE AGAINST MORE PEOPLES THEN ANYONE... THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE, WAS ONCE REFERED TO AS, "THE PRISON HOUSE OF NATIONS", DO YOU KNOW WHY DAN? THE RUSSIANS PRACTISED FORMS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST THE SIBERIAN NATIVES, THE PEOPLES OF THE CAUCASAS ETC... ALSO LINGUAL AND CULTURAL GENOCIDE... IN THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST PERIOD, MILLIONS OF UKRAINIANS WERE KILLED AS AN ACT OF GENOCIDE IN AN ARTIFICIAL FAMMINE, DEPORTATIONS, ETC.. AS WERE MANY OTHER PEOPLE.. REMEMEBER YOUR FRIENDS THE CHECHENS, DAN? YOU ALSO HAD THE SAME LINGUAL AND CULTURAL SUPPRESSION AS YOU DID UNDER THE RUSSIAN TSARS... YOU SEE DAN... WHERE TSARIST OR COMMUNIST... THE RUSSIANS WERE ALWAYS THE SAME... HISTORY REPEATS WITH THEM... NOTHING CHANGES WITH THEM... SAME SHIT... DIFFERENT TASTE... their pagan gods alll over the place and establishing the "Aryan pagan" as the superhuman and ruler of Universe. I RECALL THE RUSSIANS CREATING A FEW STATUES REFERED TO AS: "THE GODDES OF COMMUNISM".. :) Some people don't find anything particularly "uncivilized" in the behaviour of these Germans. But I and other civilized people do. Sorry. GOOD THAT THOSE RUSSIAN VOLUNTEERS, AFTER A GOOD DEAL OF RAPING "MOSLEM TERROISTS", RECEIVED A LOT OF (LOWER LEVEL, OF-COURSE) GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIAL PRAISE... I RECALL *MANY* OF *YOUR* ARTICLES ATTACKING THE "MOSLEM TERROISTS" OF BOSNIA AND THE, "THREAT TO EUROPE!!!" FROM *BOSNIA* ?????? A MOST RUSSIAN PIECE OF DIPLOMATIC CUNNING AND SLYNESS!!! I AM INDEED FOOLED, AS IS EVERYONE ELSE OF-COURSE... PERHAPS YOU SHOULD DO YOUR RUSSIAN DUTY AND FIND A LITTLE "MOSLEM TERROIST GIRL-CHILD" IN BOSNIA ... AND RAPE HER, IT WOULD BE RATHER TRADITIONALY AND HEROICALY RUSSIAN OF YOU... IN YOUR COUNTRY... PEOPLE WOULD SALUTE YOU! YOU MAY FIND IT CURIOUS TO KNOW, THAT MANY JEWS, AMONGST THEM, SIMON WISENTHAL, COMPARED THE GENOCIDE AGAINST THE MOSLEM BOSNIANS BY THE SERBS (AND THEIR *TRADITIONAL* RUSSIAN ALLIES) AS COMPARABLE TO THE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY OF HITLER... alex PS NOTICE, THAT AT NO POINT DID I "EDIT" YOUR POST OR DELETE *ANY* OF *YOUR* MATERIAL DAN.... PITY YOU CAN'T SAY THAT.. THIS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKED-UP. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Wed Feb 19 16:43:24 EST 1997 Article: 72282 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!service-2.agate.net!usenet From: alex@agate.net (alex) Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: National identity (was: Re: Drunken fuckin' stupid Sovoks! (was: Re: So much for "ukrainian" scater Oksana Bauil Date: 19 Feb 1997 05:15:40 GMT Organization: Agate Internet Services (AIS) Lines: 92 Message-ID: <5ee29t$h2g@service-2.agate.net> References: <5dtf9h$cbv@chaos.dac.neu.edu> <5dtms7$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <855946783.6514@dejanews.com> <856230186.10630@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alex.sdi.agate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.ukrainian:36840 soc.culture.russian:72282 soc.culture.usa:166806 In article , iikgo01@commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de says... > > >On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 alex@agate.net wrote: > >> ...BESIDES... I THINK I AM IN LOVE..... > >Jesus Christ!!! Who's that poor thing? A goat or a buck? ACTUALLY.... IT'S MRS. GORDEEV .... SUCH A GOOOOD LONG "MINET"...... AND ONLY FOR A $1 !!!!! [SHE ONLY WANTED 25 CENTS AND AN AMERICAN CIGARETTE.....] BUT WHAT THE HELL..... SHE WAS SO HAPPY WITH A WHOLE DOLLAR....... SHE SAID "AIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!" "DA! DA!...... IS WESTERN YANQUI DOLLAR!!!!" THEN SHE WENT TO THE BUS STATION AND GAVE EVERYBODY ELSE A "MINET"...... SO GREAT WAS HER JOY...... YOU KNOW..... YOU WERE QUITE CORRECT...... MONGOLIAN WOMEN ARE INDEED STRONG!!!! PERHAPS YOU WERE INDEED ACURATE IN YOUR SUGGESTION TO FORGET THAT FAT, WHITE, WESTERN, "PIZDA", APRIL ... AFTER ALL .... TO BE PERFECTLY LOGICAL ABOUT IT..... PERHAPS YOU RUSSIANS KNOW THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE FORGOT... SO CLOSE TO NATURE AND DIRT AND ALL ... IT IS CONCEIVABLE... >Since nowadays Ukraine=Rus, IT IS NOT A CASE OF, "nowadays Ukraine=Rus".... THIS WAS TRUE *BEFORE* YOU AND THE OTHER SOVOK SAVAGES HEARD OF IT ..... DON'T YOU THINK SO ??? SORT OF LIKE YOU DISCOVERING TOILET PAPER, AND FLUSH TOILETS WHEN YOU WENT TO GERMANY FROM RUSSIA..... OR DO YOU STILL THINK THAT "ROME" MUST BE IN "ROMANIA"??? > I wonder what would be the modern >name for your ukrainian buck: a russian buck? >Note that Mongolian buffaloes are bigger and stronger anyway. MRS. GORDEEV WAS RATHER A LARGE CREATURE ..... [FORTUNATELY NO ONE SAW ME..... :] {I WAS A LITTLE DRUNK.... I CONFESS.... BUT SHE DIDN'T MIND....} {SAID THAT YOU WERE ALWAYS DRUNK.....} {BEFORE YOU FUCKED HER TOO....} {ALL THE MEN IN RUSSIA, WERE DRUNK BEFORE THEY FUCKED HER...} >With your perverted thoughts you'd better try alt.sodomy.bestiality TOLD YOU.... HAD YOUR NASTY WIFE .... I PULLED OUT OF HER MOUTH ONCE SHE STARTED TO SING ABOUT BORIS GODUNOV ...ANOTHER TRUE RUSSIAN RULER OF RUSSIA ... (SCARED ME!!!) >- why polluting s.c.xyz and/or xyz.politics? WELL .... I WAS KINDA WONDERING.... HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SISTER CHARGE? IS SHE LESS FAT??? > >L.G > From alex@agate.net Sun Feb 23 15:08:59 EST 1997 Article: 72512 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!gatech!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:41:07 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: A FORGED "Russian patriot": fanhndrx@aol.com (was: Re: WWIII Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.ukrainian Message-ID: <856651136.1628@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <32FB59B1.3573@cyberspace.org> <19970220011201.UAA00314@ladder02.news.aol.com> <330E5B90.33C0@Thieme.HAL.EUnet.de> X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Feb 22 22:38:56 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 27 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:72512 soc.culture.ukrainian:36913 In article <330E5B90.33C0@Thieme.HAL.EUnet.de>, Guido@Thieme.HAL.EUnet.de wrote: > > FANHNDRX wrote: > > > > hey buddy i been in hell for the past 16yrs. > > What does this mean? IT MEANS THAT AT THE END, HIS "BLYAD" MAMA, LIKE MANY SOVOK PROSTITUTES, WENT TO GERMANY AND MARRIED, SOME SOVOK LOVING ASSHOLE, A BUFFON NAMED: Guido Thieme > -- > _______________________________________________________________ > | "An error has occurred in the government and the nation has | > | become unstable. Please close all societal establishments | > | and restart your civilization now." | > | Brian E. Coleman | > |_____________________________________________________________| WASN'T THE ABOVE SAID BY BORIS YELTSIN? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Sun Feb 23 15:10:34 EST 1997 Article: 72524 of soc.culture.russian Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!crcnews.unl.edu!news.mid.net!news.inetnebr.com!news.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:51:09 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Anti-American (citizens) "SOVOKS* Ex- Soviets (was: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa Message-ID: <856658974.5147@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <856215898.100@dejanews.com> <856332580.4684@dejanews.com> X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 23 00:49:35 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 158 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:72524 soc.culture.ukrainian:36917 soc.culture.europe:73584 soc.culture.usa:168125 Subject: Re: DID ALLIES HELP CCCP IN THE WWII From: kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) Date: 1997/02/20 Message-Id: Sender: kda@netcom19.netcom.com References: <19970209000000.TAA12055@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5dqtva$mh@hecate.umd.edu> <5dtstl$pcs@service-2.agate.net> <856215898.100@dejanews.com> <856332580.4684@dejanews.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics,ukr.politics,soc.cultu re.europe,soc.culture.usa ========================MUCH DELETED BY “alex” OF MATERIAL BY “alex” and RUSSIAN EX-SOVIET *SOVOK* DAN KOROLEV ============== alex@agate.net writes: >In article , kda@netcom.com (Dan Korolev) wrote: >GOOD THAT THOSE RUSSIAN VOLUNTEERS, AFTER A GOOD DEAL OF >RAPING "MOSLEM TERROISTS", RECEIVED A LOT OF (LOWER LEVEL, OF-COURSE) >GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIAL PRAISE... Well, some people consider Hammas, SDyrian and Iranian "volunteers" in Bosnia to be "MOSLEM TERROISTS", others - "freedom fighters" against "American Imperialism and Zionism". Evidently, so do you. >I RECALL *MANY* OF *YOUR* ARTICLES ATTACKING THE >"MOSLEM TERROISTS" OF BOSNIA AND THE, "THREAT TO EUROPE!!!" >FROM *BOSNIA* ?????? That is an outright slander. Never have I said anything like that. Why don't you provide proof of your allegations? Or admit that you have maliciously slandered my character! For your information, I consider Bosnian Muslems as the biggest victims of the insane war started by the criminal Serbian leader Milisevic and the fascist Croat government. >NOTICE, THAT AT NO POINT DID I "EDIT" YOUR POST OR DELETE >*ANY* OF *YOUR* MATERIAL DAN.... Yes, but you have managed to slander me, haven't you? BEGIN NEW REPLY: ========================MUCH DELETED FROM ABOVE BY “alex” and RUSSIAN *SOVOK* DAN KOROLEV ============== YOU “SLANDER” YOURSELF: BY YOUR *SELECTED* PRESENTATIONS OF FACTS. YOUR “LYING BY OMISSION”, SLANTING AND MAKING MORE PROMINENT (AND DIMINISHING OR IGNORING) *ELEMENTS” OF DATA. SO AS TO CREATE A FALSE OR DISTORTED *IMPRESSION*. YOUR *ERRONEOUS* BELIEF AND VIEW THAT BECAUSE OF YOUR OFT REPEATED AND OFT PROCLAIMED, “HIGH INTELLIGENCE”, THAT YOU SOMEHOW IMAGINE THAT YOU CAN FOOL AND CAJOLE THE READER INTO BELIEVING WHAT *YOU* WANT THE READER TO BELIEVE ABOUT THE RUSSIAN *STATE*, BE IT IMPERIAL OR SOVIET, AS DETERMINED BY YOUR’ *PRIMARILY*, *BLIND* ALLEGIENCE TO ANYTHING SO LONG AS IT’’S *RUSSIAN* AND *STATIST*. (YET YOU HAD *NO* PROBLEM TAKING AN _OATH OF ALLEGIANCE _ WHEN YOU WENT FOR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP, DID YOU? NO MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT, THEN YOU DO WHEN YOU *INSULT* AND *SLANDER* AMERICA AND AMERICANS... YET SPEAK OF “we Americans”, when you think that is more *convienient* in speaking *for* RUSSIA!!!! IN FRONT OF THOSE STUPID AMERICANS... RIGHT? ) YOUR MYRIAD PAST POSTS AS REGARDS: THE BALTIC NATIONS AND THEIR INDEPENDENCE, UKRAINE AND IT’S INDEPENDENCE, THE CHECHENS AND THEIR INDEPENDENCE, THE BOSNIAN MOSLEMS, NATO, ETC. >PITY YOU CAN'T SAY THAT.. >THIS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKED-UP. No, alex. As a computer scientist or economist or whatever, you should be aware of such issue as "memory growth". If we do not delete parts of our discussion and keep on adding to it - the posts will grow bigger and bigger. That's why *everybody* except you trims posts. I AM ALSO VERY AWARE, THAT IN THIS PAST EXCHANGE WITH YOU, THAT ONLY *MY* WRITINGS WERE “EDITED” OR “DELETED”. WHY IS THAT? MOST ESP. THE PARTS THAT YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER, COULD NOT ANSWER, OR THAT YOU DID *NOT* WISH THE READER TO SEE, OR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN (TOO EMBARASING?) TOO UNFLATTERING FOR THE READER TO KNOW ABOUT *YOUR* RUSSIAN STATE... OR THOSE ***PARTS*** OF MY WRITINGS THAT WOULD HAVE MADE *ANY* SEMI-REASONABLE* ANSWER, EQUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. THAT’S WHAT WAS “EDITED” (OR TOTALY IGNORED) ONCE AGAIN, ONLY MY MATERIAL, FOR SOME ODD REASON, YOU “CUNNING RUSSO-MONGOL”. :) NOR DID YOU, ANSWER CERTAIN STATEMENTS, IN FULL, OR YOU ATTEMPTED TO *SHIFT* FOCUS.... BY TALKING ABOUT THE “BARBARITY” OF THE GERMANS THROUGHOUT HISTORY OR BY USING THE *STRAWMAN ARGUMENT* OF RUSSIA, THAT: “HITLERS SECOND COMMING IS AT HAND ! ! ! ! WE RUSSIANS ARE SCARED OF THOSE GERMANS WITH OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS ! ! ! DO NOT EXPAND NATO ! ! ! IT’S THOSE GERMANS AND HITLER POPPING OUT OF HIS GRAVE ! ! !” (FUNNY THAT NO ONE IN *EAST* OR *WESTERN* EUROPE IS SO “FRIGHTENED”) WONDER WHAT ONLY *YOU* AND *RUSSIA* KNOWS, THAT CIVILIZED PEOPLE DO NOT? SEEMS THAT THE EASTERN AND WESTERN EUROPEANS, MANY OF THE EX-SOVIET EMPIRE’S “REPUBLICS” AS FOUND IN UKRAINE, THE BALTIC NATIONS, *CHEECHNA*, TAJIKISTAN, ETC.... ARE MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT *RUSSIA*. WONDER WHY? AS YOU SAID EARLIER: “That's why *everybody* except you trims posts.” I DON’T THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS SO STUPID, (OR THAT I AM SO SMART) THAT I NEED TO *DISTORT*, *OMIT* ETC... NOR DO I INTEND TO DO WHAT *YOU* HAVE ALWAYS *DONE* AND PLAY THAT SORT OF GAME... [ THIS IS THE ONLY *MAJOR* DELETION, OF *BOTH* OUR WRITINGS THAT I HAVE EVER DONE, AND IF YOU NOTICE HOW IT WAS DONE, IT WAS *ALL* OF BOTH AUTHORS AT AN ARBITRARILY CHOSEN POINT AND ONLY TO FOCUS ON YOUR PERFIDY AND TYPICAL RUSSO-MONGOLIAN TREACHERY. VERY FAIR WASN'T IT? :]]] I AM AN AMERICAN DAN, BORN HERE, AND NOT AS SMART AS YOU RUSSO-MONGOLIAN "AMERICAN CITIZENS" AND FORMER SOVIETS, RIGHT? alex Regards, Dan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From alex@agate.net Sat Mar 8 04:37:10 EST 1997 Article: 105601 of soc.culture.soviet Path: fas-news.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 18:21:27 -0600 From: alex@agate.net Subject: Re: Moderator Spongiform Encephalopathy Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russian,relcom.politics Message-ID: <857780002.23918@dejanews.com> Organization: LIVE FREE OR DIE ! References: <5fpffe$dik$1@newsreader.jvnc.net> X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Mar 08 00:13:25 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.117.9.156 (alex.sdi.agate.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alex@agate.net Lines: 304 Xref: fas-news.harvard.edu soc.culture.soviet:105601 soc.culture.russian:73477 In article <5fpffe$dik$1@newsreader.jvnc.net>, verbit@thelema.dnttm.rssi.ru (Misha Verbitsky) wrote: > > > I have looked at the archive of rejected articles from > soc.culture.russian.moderated > (http://www.galstar.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/archive/maillist.html) > and found that most articles here are > about 2,5 million times more interesting than anything > soc.culture.russian.moderated was able to offer, ever. I think > these gems must be saved for posterity. Here it goes > (I reformatted a bit) (by the way, what _is_ wally?) YES INDEED !! MICHAEL KAHALENKO IS A GREAT MAN! A GREAT UKRAINIAN FREEDOM FIGHTER AGAINST THE EVIL RUSSIAN SOVOKS FROM SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN.MODERATED AND THEIR UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKA ALLY!!! MAY MICHAEL KAHALENKO BE VICTORIOUS IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST THE EVIL SOVOK CENSORS!!! LET FREEDOM RING! LET SOVOKS DIE! DOWN ON THE GROUND WITH UKRAINIAN PROSTITUTKAS!!! > > Subject: Moderator Spongiform Encephalopathy, > commonly known as 'Mad-Censor Disease' > From: Michael Kagalenko > > How can you say that all white dudes should get whales ? I can't believe > how crass you moderator dude are. I mean, let me tell you moderator dude > something, you moderator dude racist, the Daily Mail is always > right. Furthermore, you moderator dude ignoramus, Reagan's ghost is living > in your operation. > > It takes a mentally retarded rat like you moderator dude > to say that a underpriviledged man ain't got nothing in the world these > days. I've never heard anything as ridiculous as the idea that technology > is evil. Save the sexist jokes! You moderator dude have the stupidity of a > drunk. I can't believe how abusive you moderator dude are. > > So, Unix is a really foul operating system? > Furthermore, you moderator dude wally, the > unborns have really got it all together. > > I couldn't care less about your moderator's venereal disease. > It's well known that Dennis Ritchie is depressing. > You're always totally wrong. You as unpleasant as a Jewish > grandmother's poor arsehole! Why, Caesar is just a figment of your > imagination! > > You moderator dude have the bad grammar of a incompetent. You > have the foul worthlessness of a primitive peasant. I can't believe how > depressing you moderator dude are. Life has lousy spelling, huh? I mean, I > couldn't care less about your moderator's graphics editor. > > It takes a Puerto Rican fool like you > to say that you moderator dude should have a > cruise missile. You phoney old ignoramus! You moderator dude sound like a > real sadist. You know, mentally retarded people are as malignant as a > abusive whale, and they don't want their children to grow up to be too lazy > to steal. > > You moderator dude have the subtlety of a wally. I can't believe > how primitive you are. Only a arsehole like you moderator dude would say > that every underpriviledged person is a incompetant. Let me tell you > something, you crass fool, all unborn dudes should get venereal diseases. > > My Jewish grandmother is pretty good. It takes a Chinese DAF driver like > you moderator dude to say that Heidegger's ghost is living in your right > wing death squad. > > You're always totally wrong. You moderator dude sound > like a real wally. You sound like a real pea brain. I'll bet you moderator > dude think that vegetables are perverted. You moderator dude have the > ignorance of a goof. How can you moderator dude say that you moderator dude > remind me of Vorobieff? The Earth is flat, right? > > I couldn't care less about your moderator dude's Jewish grandmother. > How can you be so bad? I've never heard anything as ridiculous as > the idea that Unix is a really nasty operating > system. You're probably disgusting yourself. Ban intolerable sexist jokes! > > I'll bet you think that ten-inchers are primitive. Your prejudice reminds > me of a cardboard cut-out. Crass rich peasant wanker! Man, I mean, don't > you moderator dude realise that the CIA killed Smirnov and replaced > him with a cardboard cut-out? Let me tell you > something, you sadist, it's fun to be really stupid. > > How can you be so improper? I don't want to hear > about your cruise missile. You depressing > gay maniac! No nukes! You have the ugliness of a goof. How can you > moderator dude say that you're a s.c.r.m. moderator? It's a wonderful day, > huh? I mean, don't you moderator dude realise that life is a ten-incher? > > Let me tell you moderator dude something, you moderator dude Ukrainian > nationalist, you moderator dude should have a dog. How can you be so sick > and sadistic? It takes a lesbian unpleasant cretin like you to say that > venereal diseases are fun, because black people are foul. > > I've never heard anything as ridiculous as the > idea that if you've seen one Jewish grandmother, > you've seen them all. Why, Zherebilov's ghost is living in > your diseased sperm! I have many white friends. > > You know, you moderator dude remind me of Castro. > How can you moderator dude say that Attilla the Hun > killed Alaric the Visigoth? So, the Earth is flat? I couldn't care less > about your lawyer. > > It takes a foreign Neanderthal like you to say that I > was Hitler in a previous life. I don't want to hear about your Honeywell > dps8. You intolerable depressing wimp! I have many Puerto Rican > friends. > > Your prejudice reminds me of a sexist joke. How can you moderator > dude say that the Pope's lack of common decency is sick? So, communist > people are all braindamaged morons ? I couldn't care less about your > real-time clock. I don't want to hear about your venereal disease. You > moderator dude dumb bloated s.c.r.m. moderator! > > -- > This posting would have been rejected from soc.culture.russian.moderated. > =========================================================== > Reason: abuse: > > Subject: Moderator Spongiform Encephalopathy, > commonly known as 'Mad-Censor Disease' > From: Michael Kagalenko > > I mean, I couldn't care less about your ten-incher. It takes a gay fool > like you moderator dude to say that most Polish people have real-time > clocks . You moderator dude must be a real drunk to think that you're > underpriviledged. You sick crazy maniac! You moderator dude sound like a > real Ukrainian nationalist. No nukes! > > Perverted unborn beast! So, you moderator dude > look like a punk haircut? Furthermore, you jerk, a rich man > ain't got nothing in the world these days. How can you moderator dude be so > bad? > > I've never heard anything as ridiculous as the idea that the Russians > are tapping your phone. You sound like a real wanker. Why, breathing causes > cancer! No nukes! > > You moderator dude know, Zherebilov's worthlessness is > braindamaged. You're a typical gay person, totally selfish. White people > are all intolerable wallys , huh? > > So, I wish I had a right wing death > squad? Furthermore, you moderator dude lunkhead, you moderator dude wish > you moderator dude were a disease. I couldn't care less about your > moderator's cruise missile. You moderator dude make me sick. You're always > totally wrong. > > You primitive dead Nazi! You moderator dude sound like a > real beast. Save the whales! > > I'll bet you moderator dude think that > real-time clocks are phoney. I'll bet you think that system calls are as > sick as a bug fix. I'll bet you moderator dude sound like > a copyright. So, rich people are evil? > > You know, I wish I were a lawyer. Your bad grammar > reminds me of a sexist joke. Man, how can you moderator dude say that > working people are inherently superior to unborn people? All rich dudes > should get cardboard cut-outs , right? I couldn't care less about your punk > haircut. You make me sick. You're always totally wrong. You moderator dude > sound like a real fool. Save the wood-burning stoves! > > You know, Heidegger was Puerto Rican. You primitive lunkhead! > Your ugliness reminds me of a copyright. You have the worthlessness > of a sadist. Malignant Moonie arsehole! You're a typical white person, > totally abusive. So, the world is full of primitive cretins ? > Let me tell you moderator dude something, you moderator dude ignoramus, the > Russians are tapping your phone. > > I couldn't care less about your dog. It > takes a religious drunk like you moderator dude to say that I was Vorobieff > in a previous life. It takes a sick moron like you to say that Zhikharev is > abusive. You sound like a real s.c.r.m. moderator. I'll bet you think that > surfboards are intolerable. You're a typical funny-looking person, totally > ignorant. Man, I mean, How can you moderator dude be so unpleasant? I've > never heard anything as ridiculous as the idea that Nixon is just a figment > of your imagination. Save the system calls! > > I'll bet you moderator dude think that > copyrights are disgusting. You moderator dude know, you > moderator dude should get a punk haircut. You have the nastiness of a > ten-incher. I can't believe how phoney you moderator dude are. Communist > people are all as unpleasant as a cardboard cut-out and abusive because > they don't want their children to grow up to be too lazy to steal, huh? > > Let me tell you moderator dude something, you moderator dude beast, every > Polish person is a racist. You make me sick. You moderator dude depressing > underpriviledged Chinese DAF driver! You crass religious capitalist! > I'll bet you think that system calls are lousy. You primitive working > whimpering scumbag! > > I can't believe how as sick as a copyright you are. I mean, let me tell you > moderator dude something, you moderator dude arsehole, you're Italian. I > couldn't care less about your moderator's computer. You moderator dude make > me sick. People are dying every day. > > -- > This posting would have been rejected from soc.culture.russian.moderated. > =========================================================== > Reason: abuse: > > Subject: Moderator Spongiform Encephalopathy, > commonly known as 'Mad-Censor Disease' > From: Michael Kagalenko > > Only a racist like you would say that Dennis Ritchie is a > ignoramus. Furthermore, you moderator dude drunk, Caesar is lesbian. I > couldn't care less about your perverted computer. You moderator dude make > me sick. > > I don't want to hear about your punk haircut. I've never heard > anything as ridiculous as the idea that Senin was unpleasant. You must be a > real pea brain to think that you moderator dude look like a Jewish > grandmother. You moderator dude foul Nicaraguan lunkhead! > > Save the graphics editors! I'll bet you think that > copyrights are ignorant. Bloated underpriviledged sexist! > The world is full of ignorami, huh? I firmly > believe that you moderator dude remind me of Zherebilov. > > I couldn't care less about your moderator's sexist joke. > I don't want to hear about your venereal disease. > > Why, the Chinese have really got it all together! You > moderator dude have the bad grammar of a capitalist. Man, stupidity is > pretty fun, right? Furthermore, you moderator dude wally, when ya gotta go > ya gotta go. Furthermore, you incompetant, there's a graphics editor in > Henry Kissinger's brain. > > How can you be so abusive? You moderator dude make > me sick. You must be a real racist fool to think that the more right wing > death squads you moderator dude have, the better. Why, Hitler is > intolerable! I'll bet you think that cruise missiles are as sick as a bug > fix. > > You're a typical funny-looking person, totally abusive. Only a rat > like you moderator dude would say that I wish I had a whale. Don't you > moderator dude realise that you moderator dude wish you moderator dude were > a mental problem? I couldn't care less about your moderator's system > call. You make me sick. You're always totally wrong. You moderator dude > phoney underpriviledged wally! No nukes! > > I firmly believe that Italian people are all bad because > they don't want their children to grow up to be too lazy to steal, because > black people are dumb, and they can't tell them apart from mentally > retarded dudes. > > You moderator dude have the bad > grammar of a lunkhead. Fascist! How can you say that copyrights are fun? > Only a fool like you would say that you're foreign. So, the Daily Express > is always right? Furthermore, you wanker, a crazy man ain't got nothing in > the world these days. You make me sick. You're always totally wrong. > > You're probably Chinese yourself. Save the ten-inchers! No nukes! Ban punk > haircuts! Malignant Mexican capitalist! Only a wimp like you would say that > it's OK to run down Italian people. > > It's fun to be really sadistic, huh? Furthermore, you moderator > dude dogmatist, Chudov's lousy spelling is disgusting. > You make me sick. I don't want to hear about your graphics > editor. > > Why, life is a copyright! Save the nukes! Whimpering scumbag! How > can you moderator dude say that I wish I had a ten-incher? Only a Nazi like > you would say that Moonie people are inherently superior to dumb people, > because source licenses are fun. > > Don't you moderator dude realise that if > you've seen one sexual fantasy, you've seen them all? Let me tell you > moderator dude something, you moderator dude sexist, you moderator dude > have a surfboard. I couldn't care less about your moderator's > vegetable. It's well known that the oceans are full of dirty fish. You must > be a real fascist to think that people are dying every day. No nukes! > > Your ugliness reminds me of a copyright. You're a typical homosexual person, > totally ignorant. Michael Jackson killed Vorobieff, right? I mean, let me > tell you something, you ignoramus, I was Zherebilov in a previous life. How > can you moderator dude be so unpleasant? You're always totally wrong. You > must be a real idiot to think that it's fun to be really foul. I have many > crazy friends. No nukes! You have the lack of intelligence of a rat. How > can you say that everything is really a whale? Don't you moderator dude > realise that life is a sexist joke? > > -- > This posting would have been rejected from soc.culture.russian.moderated. > =========================================================== > Reason: abuse: -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From AlienMed@worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 5 22:54:48 EST 1998 Article: 109448 of soc.culture.soviet Path: news.fas.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "AlienMed" Newsgroups: relcom.talk,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics Subject: Re: Muscovites in Vermont or MOCKBA I Date: 4 Jan 1998 20:33:55 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 44 Message-ID: <68ornj$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <34b03cec.3764131@localhost> <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.34.219 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.fas.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:92111 soc.culture.soviet:109448 soc.culture.ukrainian:48276 George A. Miziuk wrote in article <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com>... > In article <34b03cec.3764131@localhost>, dvv@dvv.ru had the temerity to > say... > > > >Some of the readers of this message might know the owner of a car with > >NY license plates "MOCKBA I". Please pass my regards and apologies to > >this guy or gal for my following this car on VT routes 100/9 on Jan 3, > >1998 - I know, it's no fun having a truck (well, almost) 30 feet behind > >you giving tan to the the back of your head. > > > >Cheers and s novym godom! > > > >Dima > >a Muscovite ex-pat in Virginia in a 4Runner who kinda-sorta knows now > >why Solzhenitsin ended up up there. > > and exactly WHY are you posting this message to soc.culture.ukrainian? > Russian, Soviet NewsGroups are fine. BUT UKRAINIANS ARE NOT INTERESTED > in MOCKBA license plates. > > In this Newsgroup, a KYIV or LVIV license plate would be News. > > Kindly stick to RUSSIAN Newsgroups for Russian related topics. Please > keep your SPAM out of here. > > Thank you for your courtesy. THOSE SOVOK "BYDLO" GOT NO FUCKING COURTESY ! THEY THINK THAT RUSSO/MONGOLO SHIT, *SHOULD* INTEREST *EVERYBODY*, BECAUSE IT'S RUSSIAN SHIT !!!!! THEY ARE A VERY RUDE, STUPID AND VULGAR PEOPLE ! P' TFU ! I SPIT IN THEIR STUPID, EVIL, IGNORANT RUSSO/MONGOLO FACES ! From AlienMed@worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 5 22:55:17 EST 1998 Article: 109453 of soc.culture.soviet Path: news.fas.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "AlienMed" Newsgroups: relcom.talk,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics Subject: Re: Muscovites in Vermont or MOCKBA I Date: 4 Jan 1998 20:47:25 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 107 Message-ID: <68osgt$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <34b03cec.3764131@localhost> <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com> <68oj99$j7l$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.34.219 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.fas.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:92119 soc.culture.soviet:109453 soc.culture.ukrainian:48286 Philip Kremer wrote in article <68oj99$j7l$1@news.ycc.yale.edu>... > In article <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com>, > George A. Miziuk wrote: > >In article <34b03cec.3764131@localhost>, dvv@dvv.ru had the temerity to > >say... > >>Some of the readers of this message might know the owner of a car with > >>NY license plates "MOCKBA I". Please pass my regards and apologies to > >>this guy or gal for my following this car on VT routes 100/9 on Jan 3, > >>1998 - I know, it's no fun having a truck (well, almost) 30 feet behind > >>you giving tan to the the back of your head. > >> > >>Cheers and s novym godom! > >> > >>Dima > >>a Muscovite ex-pat in Virginia in a 4Runner who kinda-sorta knows now > >>why Solzhenitsin ended up up there. > > > >and exactly WHY are you posting this message to soc.culture.ukrainian? > >Russian, Soviet NewsGroups are fine. BUT UKRAINIANS ARE NOT INTERESTED > >in MOCKBA license plates. > > > >In this Newsgroup, a KYIV or LVIV license plate would be News. > > > >Kindly stick to RUSSIAN Newsgroups for Russian related topics. Please > >keep your SPAM out of here. > > > >Thank you for your courtesy. > > MOSCOW happens to be the home of a very large number of Ukrainians. I > would be willing to bet that there are more Ukrainians in Moscow than in > any other city outside of Ukraine. In fact, I would be willing to bet > that Moscow is the third or fourth largest centre of Ukrainian population > in the world, including cities in Ukraine. THERE ARE A LOT OF MONGOLS AND NIGERIANS IN MOSCOW AS WELL.... SO WHAT ? WHAT % # IS SUFFICIENT TO EXCUSE THIS, AND TO IGNORE USENET MANNERS ? .... AND WHO THE FUCK APPOINTED YOU AS THE FINAL JUDGE ? .... AND WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS ? > > Therefore, Moscow is both a Russian and a Ukrainian related topic. SO ARE CHEECHENS.... SHOULD HE POST THIS SHIT TO THE CHEECHEN GROUPS ???? SIMPLY BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS KILLED A LOT OF CHEECHEN CHILDREN...??? ...BY YOUR FUCKED-UP REASONING ??? >And > although you personally are not interested in MOCKBA license plates, > perhaps some Moscow-born, Moscow-raised Ukrainian would be interested. OR CHEECHENS, OR *.* ETC.... HOW MANY SURVEYS HAVE YOU TAKEN BEFORE YOU SPOKE AND WROTE OUT OF YOUR STUPID @SS, AND SAID --- SHIT ! ....OR ARE YOU MERELY ..... *POSTULATING* ???? GUESSING ???? >I > guess that you speak for all Ukrainians? I GUESS THAT *YOU* SPEAK FOR *ALL* UKRAINIANS THAT WERE BORN IN MOSCOW AND HAVE A LICENSE FETISH IN SOC.CULTURE.UKRAINIAN ? RIGHT ??? > > A final point. The original poster posted his comment in a friendly, > happy, generally positive tone. He obviously was naive about the petty, > bitter, nasty, and small-minded response that his friendly outgoing > remarks might provoke. INDEED HE WAS.... PERHAPS YOU WILL POST SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LOVE OF TOLSTOY IN THIS GROUP AS WELL.... THEY ARE RELATED, AREN'T THEY ? AFTER ALL, THERE MUST BE SOME UKRAINIANS WHO LIKE TOLSTOY... RIGHT ? DO YOU ALWAYS THINK LIKE THIS ? WERE YOU ALWAYS AN @SSHOLE ? > > -PK > > From kremer@mercury.cis.yale.edu Mon Jan 5 22:56:17 EST 1998 Article: 109450 of soc.culture.soviet Path: news.fas.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!mercury.cis.yale.edu!kremer From: kremer@mercury.cis.yale.edu (Philip Kremer) Newsgroups: relcom.talk,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics Subject: Re: Muscovites in Vermont or MOCKBA I Date: 4 Jan 1998 21:18:34 GMT Organization: Yale University Lines: 7 Message-ID: <68ouba$1tl$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <34b03cec.3764131@localhost> <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com> <68ornj$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.cis.yale.edu Xref: news.fas.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:92114 soc.culture.soviet:109450 soc.culture.ukrainian:48279 In article <68ornj$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, AlienMed wrote: >I SPIT IN THEIR STUPID, EVIL, IGNORANT RUSSO/MONGOLO FACES ! Have you got something against Mongolians? Sounds pretty racist to me. From AlienMed@worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 5 22:59:38 EST 1998 Article: 109462 of soc.culture.soviet Path: news.fas.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "AlienMed" Newsgroups: relcom.talk,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.ukrainian,relcom.politics Subject: Re: Muscovites in Vermont or MOCKBA I Date: 5 Jan 1998 03:14:14 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 99 Message-ID: <68pj66$co7@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <34b03cec.3764131@localhost> <68ohc0$97b$1@defiant.america.com> <68oj99$j7l$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> <68osgt$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <68ou7q$1rn$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.8.191 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.fas.harvard.edu soc.culture.russian:92152 soc.culture.soviet:109462 soc.culture.ukrainian:48315 Philip Kremer wrote in article <68ou7q$1rn$1@news.ycc.yale.edu>... > In article <68osgt$mij@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, > AlienMed wrote: > > >.... AND WHO THE FUCK APPOINTED YOU AS THE FINAL JUDGE ? > > >...BY YOUR FUCKED-UP REASONING ??? > > Wow. There's a lot of anger bottled up inside this person. YOU DID *NOT* QUOTE ME FULLY, NOW DID YOU?? WONDER WHY?? > > >HOW MANY SURVEYS HAVE YOU TAKEN BEFORE YOU > >SPOKE AND WROTE OUT OF YOUR STUPID @SS, > >AND SAID --- SHIT ! > > > >....OR ARE YOU MERELY ..... *POSTULATING* ???? > >GUESSING ???? > > A guess, but an educated guess. OH? ..AND HOW IS YOUR "guess", EDUCATED ??? BASED ON WHAT ??? > > >I GUESS THAT *YOU* SPEAK FOR *ALL* UKRAINIANS THAT > >WERE BORN IN MOSCOW AND HAVE A LICENSE FETISH > >IN SOC.CULTURE.UKRAINIAN ? > > > >RIGHT ??? > > No. I never claimed that all Moscow-born-and-raised Ukrainians would be > interested. I only claimed that SOME might be interested. In English, > the word "all" means something different from the word "some". REALLY NOW! I NOTICE THAT IN YOUR *EARLIER* POST, DIDN'T *** YOU *** ASK SOMETHING LIKE " ... do you speak for all Ukrainians.." HMMM..... YOU SEEM TO CONTRADICT YOURSELF..... NOW, *DESPITE* YOUR SELECTIVE QUOTING.... > > >PERHAPS YOU WILL POST SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LOVE OF > >TOLSTOY IN THIS GROUP AS WELL.... > > > >THEY ARE RELATED, AREN'T THEY ? > > They certainly are related, since most Ukrainians in Ukraine probably > studied Tolstoy at some point in their education. AS DID *MOST* EDUCATED PEOPLE, *EVERYWHERE*. HOW ABOUT *YOU*? SO WHAT ???? HOW IS *THAT* RELEVANT.... ???? > > >WERE YOU ALWAYS AN @SSHOLE ? > > Hmmm... I guess when a person runs out of contructive things to say, he > or she often resorts to name-calling. This is what I call conversation > worthy of the name! YOU SAID *NOTHING* ! > > -PK NOTE HOW *YOU* DIDN'T *FULLY* QUOTE ME... WHEREAS, I HAD *NO* DIFFICULTY *FULLY* QUOTING *YOU*.... HOW *CUNNING* AND *SLY* YOU ARE.... ( WEASELY LITTLE TURD ! )